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O.t Nfl Looking To Expand Season To 17 Games

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Posted 10 May 2007 - 09:16 AM

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NFL looking at expanding to 17 games

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NEW YORK (May 10, 2007) -- Americans always seem to want more pro football. Yet it's the folks abroad who might be getting an extra taste of the NFL in the future.

Although talks are extremely preliminary, the NFL is investigating adding a 17th regular-season game and playing it outside the United States. The extra game would take the place of one in the preseason, allowing every team to play once abroad without sacrificing a home match.

This year, the Dolphins gave up a home date in Miami to play the New York Giants at Wembley Stadium in London. Two years ago, the Arizona Cardinals played a home game in Mexico City against the San Francisco 49ers.

"It is preliminary, but we certainly are putting resources into pulling that together," said Mark Waller, NFL senior vice president, international. "For now, we have the one game per season or two per season outside of the U.S. But we know it can be tough on home fans since we're taking a game away.

"So we have asked how do we create more inventory without taking games away from fans? That idea came up in internal conversations and we now have an international committee of owners and we talked it through with them, and they asked us to do some groundwork."

While the 17th game won't get off the ground next season, for sure, it could become a staple of the NFL's schedule by 2009 or 2010. But it would present some significant logistical and scheduling challenges.

For one, if there is another week to the regular season, does that mean openers played on Labor Day weekend, something the NFL has avoided in recent years? Or does it mean pushing the Super Bowl back a week to the second Sunday in February? Or leaving the title game where it is and eliminating the week off between conference championships and the Super Bowl?

"I don't see a huge downside to a week later. The strength of the idea warrants bringing it up for discussion," Waller said.

And what about during a Winter Olympics year such as 2010?

"It might be an issue for the Olympics," he adds with a laugh.

Where would the "foreign games" be played? And how would they be divided?

Waller notes that there won't be 16 different venues for the 17th games. More likely would be a "mini-season ticket" of perhaps four games in one city or country.

"It is very early, but our thought is what we could end up with is every week there would be one international game," he said. "We won't have all of them on the same week. And what you would do is look at taking, for instance, four games to London. Play a game in Wembley each month, having eight different teams coming through. A game in September, one in October, one in November and one in December.

"It's a great opportunity from a fan perspective, because they get half of what a fan in the United States gets, four games to eight."

Aside from England, other prime areas to get games would be Germany, which has a half-dozen quality stadiums thanks to last year's World Cup; Mexico; and Canada. Waller doubts Asia or Australia would be targeted because of the travel concerns, but he doesn't dismiss anything. Or anywhere.

"It is a complex idea and it will take a lot of work on a number of sides," Waller said. "The beauty of it is it's competitively fair."

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Posted 10 May 2007 - 09:45 AM

This is going to be hard to accomplish.

THe time difference alone will kill a lot of interest in America because football (unlike baseball) is a sport with very few games and fans enjoy watching them, not just checking the box score. So either they will schedule some games at US time even though that means that they'll be played in like 5 in the morning in Europe or the games would have to have no playoff implications.
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Posted 10 May 2007 - 11:19 AM

QUOTE (SecondHandJets @ May 10 2007, 03:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This is going to be hard to accomplish.

THe time difference alone will kill a lot of interest in America because football (unlike baseball) is a sport with very few games and fans enjoy watching them, not just checking the box score. So either they will schedule some games at US time even though that means that they'll be played in like 5 in the morning in Europe or the games would have to have no playoff implications.


I don't like the idea at all but I do think having an odd game here or there in a foreign country is a good idea even though it would mean one team losing a home game.
16 games on foreign soil would saturate things IMO: if they had 16 games on one weekend in Europe then no one would care about NFL Europa anymore which would be a bad thing for the league because it has produced some quite decent players (Kurt Warner, Dante Hall, a ton of linemen, Jake Delhomme...)
The time differences would be workable if they have all the games as 1 PM ET starts as that is 6 PM GMT or 7 PM European Standard Time and a lot of sporting events in Europe (such as Champions League soccer games)have 9 PM starts in the week.
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Posted 10 May 2007 - 12:01 PM

QUOTE (SecondHandJets @ May 10 2007, 09:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This is going to be hard to accomplish.

THe time difference alone will kill a lot of interest in America because football (unlike baseball) is a sport with very few games and fans enjoy watching them, not just checking the box score. So either they will schedule some games at US time even though that means that they'll be played in like 5 in the morning in Europe or the games would have to have no playoff implications.

I agree if they do that they need to schedule the games where the game will start at normal time in the U.S.
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Posted 10 May 2007 - 01:03 PM

Bad idea.
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Posted 10 May 2007 - 01:54 PM

Another gimiky idea to make more money.
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Posted 10 May 2007 - 02:56 PM

QUOTE (Smedsthejet @ May 10 2007, 05:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't like the idea at all but I do think having an odd game here or there in a foreign country is a good idea even though it would mean one team losing a home game.
16 games on foreign soil would saturate things IMO: if they had 16 games on one weekend in Europe then no one would care about NFL Europa anymore which would be a bad thing for the league because it has produced some quite decent players (Kurt Warner, Dante Hall, a ton of linemen, Jake Delhomme...)
The time differences would be workable if they have all the games as 1 PM ET starts as that is 6 PM GMT or 7 PM European Standard Time and a lot of sporting events in Europe (such as Champions League soccer games)have 9 PM starts in the week.

Remember, NFL Europe is played during the NFL off-season. Even though the standard of play is a lot lower than NFL football, the NFL season is still always months away. I dunno, if I lived in Germany I'd still go and watch my local NFLE team when there was no NFL games on. I'd like to see the idea work, although it seems pretty complex and I don't think it'll happen
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Posted 10 May 2007 - 03:06 PM

QUOTE (VilmaBrit @ May 10 2007, 08:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Remember, NFL Europe is played during the NFL off-season. Even though the standard of play is a lot lower than NFL football, the NFL season is still always months away. I dunno, if I lived in Germany I'd still go and watch my local NFLE team when there was no NFL games on. I'd like to see the idea work, although it seems pretty complex and I don't think it'll happen


I get what your saying but it might be overkill if they have 16 regular season games on the continent every year and therefore people may just wait a year to grab tickets for NFL rather than watching NFLE just because of the standard. NFLE would still get the die hard supporters in the stands but I doubt they would get anymore than that.
I would love to have the opportunity to pick from 16 games to watch but the logistical problems are massive - you would have to find 16 suitable venues, which would be hard plus it would be a stretch for the NFL to sell out every single game because there are few cities in Europe that are the size of places like New York, Washington and the like and I don't see as many people as willing to travel to get to the games over here as it is a minority sport in Europe still.
What they should do is stick to the current format of 1 overseas game a year and perhaps possibly rotate the Pro Bowl around foreign cities, however that game is just an exhibition. Maybe once every five years or so they could have the SuperBowl overseas but that wouldn't neccessarily please the sponsor, let alone the fans in America.

*EDIT* I didn't read the bit in the article about the once a month proposal but still that would be difficult to implement.
What the NFL need to do is strike a balance: they need to branch out more to their worldwide fan base, but not upset the fans and sponsors in the US too much and bore them. IMO this proposals has the risk of making the league a sell out and a slave of commercialism because the root of the proposal is about money,
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Posted 10 May 2007 - 03:14 PM

i noticed allot of u talking about the reason y ppl like the NFL so much is cause its a short season and extending its a bad idea, its a 1 week extension, i dont think it will hurt any really, plus then if its an odd number it would solve having .500 teams in the playoffs.
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Posted 10 May 2007 - 03:49 PM

My concern is how the extra game will affect the health of the players . There are some people think pre-season should be shortened.
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Posted 10 May 2007 - 04:26 PM

Bad Idea it would affect the records of the game.


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Posted 10 May 2007 - 05:08 PM

As much as I would love to see another week of football I think this wouldn't be a very good idea and would throw the whole league out of wack. This new commissioner is coming up with all these new ideas that seem okay at first but when you think about them for a little bit they seem stupid. I think Mr. Goodell needs to think through some of these ideas before he goes and spits them out. The whole Europe thing is just retarded for a thousand reasons.

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Posted 11 May 2007 - 10:17 AM

QUOTE (JetsMan4012 @ May 10 2007, 04:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i noticed allot of u talking about the reason y ppl like the NFL so much is cause its a short season and extending its a bad idea, its a 1 week extension, i dont think it will hurt any really, plus then if its an odd number it would solve having .500 teams in the playoffs.


It wouldn't solve anything, what happens if you have a bunch of 8-9 or 7-10 teams make the playoffs.
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Post icon  Posted 12 May 2007 - 07:19 AM

smeds is pretty smart . besides greed the new commish is trying to make his mark with a big bang.
unless they are going to use those big cigar shaped american ufo's which are about 3 mile long and travel
at 15 -20 mph the logistics would deminish the performance of the players and the ref's .I think it would be wiser for the sake of exspansion for the NFL to have teams from other countries to field their team in the us. then charge a reasonable ppv for the world .
then there is that floating city some company is supposed to be building it travels the world i think it would hold 10 k people and dwarf a aircraft carrier.
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Posted 12 May 2007 - 10:38 AM

There are too many issues to be cleaned up before this ever happens. The 17th game would have to be added at the beginning of the season, as they probably won't lose the week off between the conference championships and the Super Bowl and lose hype time. Also, any overseas game would also have to be early in the season, as no team is going to want to play on Monday night in November, then fly to Germany and have to play on Sunday, then fly back to play the following Sunday. Even if they throw the bye week in after the Europe game, it's not enough time for a team to practice, travel, play, travel, rest, practice, play. And not enough bye weeks to go around. They should just continue to throw in overseas pre-season games, and I think Smeds had a good idea in moving the ProBowl around, maybe Hawaii, then Mexico City, then Europe, etc. Would generate more interest in the game from new fans, and have less players dropping out.
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