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azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:52 AM) He is a good QB and I would love to have him. However IMO our 6 is not good value for us. Not to mention if he hates the idea of LA what is he going to think of NY? Contract situation would have to be worked out prior to trade as well. Extreme long shot to land Rivers. My money says we are more likely to land Brees.
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:53 AM) which is still a very long shot
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:46 AM) he may just hate ownership. LT's comments yesterday was interesting.
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) “I personally don’t think so,” Tomlinson said. “I really think this is a situation where Philip Rivers wants to move on. The reason why I think that and the reason why I feel like that is the Chargers have already approached Philip about doing another contract and he declined it. He doesn’t want anything to do with it; he didn’t even want to talk about another contract with the San Diego Chargers. That tells me that he’s thinking about moving on.”

“You never want to trade your franchise quarterback,” Tomlinson said, “that’s never the case. However, in this situation they might have no choice but to do so because I don’t know if Philip [Rivers] wants to be there anymore. I think he’s lost confidence in the organization. He’s seeing a lot of changes going on and the L.A. thing is valid; him not wanting to go to L.A., that is very valid, I can see that. So no, it doesn’t make sense to move on from Philip because he’s a franchise quarterback and he still has three to four very good years left.”
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) missed the LA line. nvm. guess that is a legit concern.
Mr_Jet Icon : (21 April 2015 - 03:57 PM) He doesn't want to play for a franchise based in Los Angeles, but he'd be okay with playing for one based in New York City?
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 04:28 PM) That's the point we have all been making.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:05 PM) Jets vs colts Monday night week2
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:09 PM) Jets open at home against the browns
ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:52 PM) Week 5 Bye after the London Game against the Dolphags
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) Rivers is likely going to Tennessee. Would LOVE to have him here but we likely won't make the trade. I'd easily give this year and next year
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) 's first rounder for him
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 11:03 AM) IMO that's a steep price. I would swap this years first and a conditional 1st next year. Assuming we make the AFC Championship. That would be a 28-32nd pick. Otherwise a second.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:07 PM) Yes 2 1st is a lot
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:10 PM) draft is next week, pumped
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:02 PM) What are thoughts on getting a RB in round 1? McShay's newest mock has us taking Gurley at 6. I don't think we should take him that high, but if we trade down and he's available I'd love to snag him, ACL and all. He's got an unreal skill set that, once healthy, will translate readily to the NFL. We're not getting a QB this year without paying a king's ransom, and unless we pay a ransom for a top guy I say ignore QB. I don't want us to take a Hundley or Petty type in the 2nd or 3rd round when we need other pieces (edge rush, OL)
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
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.@LanceZierlein says on http://sports790.com that Shane Ray will need surgery on foot, 5 months recovery. "Could drop out of first"
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
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Is This The Best Jets Staff Ever? is this the best jets staff ever?

Poll: is this the best jets staff ever? (24 member(s) have cast votes)

is this the best jets staff ever?

  1. Yes (7 votes [29.17%])

    Percentage of vote: 29.17%

  2. No (17 votes [70.83%])

    Percentage of vote: 70.83%

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Posted 14 September 2006 - 01:23 PM

No it has the potential to be the best coaching staff ever, but after one game it isn't even close.
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Posted 14 September 2006 - 02:44 PM

QUOTE (smallguy @ Sep 14 2006, 02:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
No it has the potential to be the best coaching staff ever, but after one game it isn't even close.


That's what I'm trying to say.... POTENTIAL! I know what the others have done. To say they were a better staff, regardless of the big names, is to say that Mangini is doomed for mediocrity. I tend to believe otherwise. I think he'll get the Jets to the Superbowl, that's how I voted.
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Posted 14 September 2006 - 02:50 PM

No yet, you should add an option: To early to tell!
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Posted 14 September 2006 - 03:45 PM

QUOTE (Jetsfan115 @ Sep 14 2006, 02:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
is this the best jets staff ever?

if you vote no who do u think is?

i think schott has this offense looking the best it has since 1998, out defense looked very good under sutton, westhoff is one of the bets sp teams coaches, mangini looks like a stud HC, MT is a master negotaior and capologist at GM, and TB is a great head scout. what do u guys think?



Perhaps one day we might give them that title, but you're a bit premature at this point. However, I will say without hesitation that it's far superior to last years staff. Westoff is the only good hold-over!!!
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Posted 14 September 2006 - 09:38 PM

You guys don't know anything. Not only is this the best Jets coaching staff, it's the best staff in any sport ever! I mean they are so damn good future generations will write of their achievements. Lombardi? Auerbach? Wooten! Hell no! We've got Mangini!
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Posted 14 September 2006 - 09:42 PM

QUOTE (Long Time Jet Fan @ Sep 14 2006, 11:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You guys don't know anything. Not only is this the best Jets coaching staff, it's the best staff in any sport ever! I mean they are so damn good future generations will write of their achievements. Lombardi? Auerbach? Wooten! Hell no! We've got Mangini!


Whatever dude. You are making mountains out of mole hills. Parcells and Co didn't get us a championship so why should we say their failure is better than Mangini's potential? We don't know what Mangini will bring, but I'd rather have Mangini than Parcells at this point I'll guarantee you that. No need to demean people with obvious sarcasm. It's just a different way of seeing things.
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Posted 14 September 2006 - 10:03 PM

i'm happy with what mangini and friends are doing but you need to win a SB. it's weeb who won SB 3 so he's the best.
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Posted 14 September 2006 - 10:07 PM

QUOTE (jets0n @ Sep 14 2006, 08:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Whatever dude. You are making mountains out of mole hills. Parcells and Co didn't get us a championship so why should we say their failure is better than Mangini's potential? We don't know what Mangini will bring, but I'd rather have Mangini than Parcells at this point I'll guarantee you that. No need to demean people with obvious sarcasm. It's just a different way of seeing things.

The question had nothing to do with potential but for some reason you keep bringing it up. Seriously this is one of the dumbest polls I've ever seen and people are actually taking it seriously. The guy's won one game for crying out loud. How the hell do you even know his potential? One game! And that against a team that absolutely sucked last year. But all of sudden we're going to start winning Super Bowls! Get real.

QUOTE (LocoJet @ Sep 14 2006, 08:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i'm happy with what mangini and friends are doing but you need to win a SB. it's weeb who won SB 3 so he's the best.

Weeb was simply not a very good coach. Namath called his own plays which is why the Jets won. Eubank basically destroyed a team that could have been good for many years because he worked on contracts and was a cheap SOB. There's only one answer to this question and if you have to be told, it's really not worth it.
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Posted 14 September 2006 - 10:16 PM

QUOTE (Long Time Jet Fan @ Sep 15 2006, 03:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The question had nothing to do with potential but for some reason you keep bringing it up. Seriously this is one of the dumbest polls I've ever seen and people are actually taking it seriously. The guy's won one game for crying out loud. How the hell do you even know his potential? One game! And that against a team that absolutely sucked last year. But all of sudden we're going to start winning Super Bowls! Get real.
Weeb was simply not a very good coach. Namath called his own plays which is why the Jets won. Eubank basically destroyed a team that could have been good for many years because he worked on contracts and was a cheap SOB. There's only one answer to this question and if you have to be told, it's really not worth it.


Is acting like an asshole really necessary?
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Posted 14 September 2006 - 10:19 PM

QUOTE (Long Time Jet Fan @ Sep 14 2006, 11:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The question had nothing to do with potential but for some reason you keep bringing it up. Seriously this is one of the dumbest polls I've ever seen and people are actually taking it seriously. The guy's won one game for crying out loud. How the hell do you even know his potential? One game! And that against a team that absolutely sucked last year. But all of sudden we're going to start winning Super Bowls! Get real.
Weeb was simply not a very good coach. Namath called his own plays which is why the Jets won. Eubank basically destroyed a team that could have been good for many years because he worked on contracts and was a cheap SOB. There's only one answer to this question and if you have to be told, it's really not worth it.


Well excuse the rest of us that actually care. I guess we should ask your permission next time we want to talk about this sort of thing..... bullshit.gif

QUOTE (JCBizkit87 @ Sep 14 2006, 11:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Is acting like an asshole really necessary?


That's what I'm saying.
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Posted 14 September 2006 - 10:21 PM

What this guy, "long time jets fan" thinks is that he is like the master of everybody here. He thinks he gets to do what he wants, when he wants. Althought your just an incompetant asshole, LTJF. Why don't you just leave the site if thats all your going to do, is insult others and insult posts. Would be a lot easier for both the people on this site, and yourself as well.

I mean all you really had to do is say your opinion, yes or no, and that was it. I stated my opinion which was no, because I thought the 1998 coaching staff was much better, and that was it. I do think Mangini has the potential to be an amazing coach though, but until then the 1998 staff is the best jets staff ever.
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Posted 14 September 2006 - 10:25 PM

uh oh its getting a little hot in herrrrrrrrrrrreeeeeeee!!


But seriously, I think if this group sticks aroud they will go down as one of the best coaching staffs in Jets history. I think that became apparent in Spring Training

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Posted 14 September 2006 - 10:27 PM

QUOTE (JCBizkit87 @ Sep 14 2006, 08:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
What this guy, "long time jets fan" thinks is that he is like the master of everybody here. He thinks he gets to do what he wants, when he wants. Althought your just an incompetant asshole, LTJF. Why don't you just leave the site if thats all your going to do, is insult others and insult posts. Would be a lot easier for both the people on this site, and yourself as well.

I mean all you really had to do is say your opinion, yes or no, and that was it. I stated my opinion which was no, because I thought the 1998 coaching staff was much better, and that was it. I do think Mangini has the potential to be an amazing coach though, but until then the 1998 staff is the best jets staff ever.

If you can't see this thread is stupid there's an obvious reason for that. Sorry, but anyone who thinks one win against the Titans makes this the best Jets coaching staff in history is a moron. If you can't see that then you're just stupid. If the fact that you're stupid makes me an asshole then so be it. But it makes me far from incompetent. And apparently people can post utter nonsense and that's okay, but if someone calls them on it they're an asshole. Of course I'd say the person who started with the namecalling and made it personal is the real asshole.
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Posted 14 September 2006 - 10:30 PM

QUOTE (Long Time Jet Fan @ Sep 15 2006, 04:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If you can't see this thread is stupid there's an obvious reason for that. Sorry, but anyone who thinks one win against the Titans makes this the best Jets coaching staff in history is a moron. If you can't see that then you're just stupid. If the fact that you're stupid makes me an asshole then so be it. But it makes me far from incompetent. And apparently people can post utter nonsense and that's okay, but if someone calls them on it they're an asshole. Of course I'd say the person who started with the namecalling and made it personal is the real asshole.


Someone can't take the insults back I guess...
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Posted 14 September 2006 - 10:32 PM

Hey tell you what. Chad had a great game. Maybe you should start a new thread called "Is Pennington the best Jets QB ever?"

QUOTE (JCBizkit87 @ Sep 14 2006, 09:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Someone can't take the insults back I guess...

Really? I thought I handled it quite well. You made a statement; I responded. How does that demonstrate I can't take insults? Of course you never address the points I made because you can't. There is no good response.
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Posted 14 September 2006 - 10:33 PM

QUOTE (Long Time Jet Fan @ Sep 15 2006, 04:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hey tell you what. Chad had a great game. Maybe you should start a new thread called "Is Pennington the best Jets QB ever?"
Really? I thought I handled it quite well. You made a statement; I responded. How does that demonstrate I can't take insults?



You don't even know what it's about. Remember you started with these insults a while back, telling me not to reply to in a PM, acting like your someone big on this site. Stop making yourself look like your the most meaningful poster on this site. It gets annoying when your posts are just ways to make others look like idiots.
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Posted 14 September 2006 - 10:38 PM

QUOTE (JCBizkit87 @ Sep 14 2006, 09:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You don't even know what it's about. Remember you started with these insults a while back, telling me not to reply to in a PM, acting like your someone big on this site. Stop making yourself look like your the most meaningful poster on this site. It gets annoying when your posts are just ways to make others look like idiots.

Boy, I have more power than I thought. If people look like idiots they do it themselves; they require no help from me. Now I see, this is a personal vendetta. Wow, I must have really made an impression as I have no recollection of you whatsoever. And if I responded to you in a PM it's because I didn't feel it was right to make it public. You on the otherhand apparently aren't smart enough to figure out when to take that route. And you still haven't addressed any of the point I made.
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Posted 14 September 2006 - 10:39 PM

QUOTE (Long Time Jet Fan @ Sep 15 2006, 04:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Boy, I have more power than I thought. If people look like idiots they do it themselves; they require no help from me. Now I see, this is a personal vendetta. Wow, I must have really made an impression as I have no recollection of you whatsoever. And you still haven't addressed any of the point I made.


My point is your an asshole.
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Posted 14 September 2006 - 10:39 PM

Bottom line is this:

This thread is about whether or not people think the current coaching staff is better than any other staff the Jets have had. Say your peace and leave it at that if you have nothing other to say about the topic at hand. Stupid or not.

If you've said what you wanted to say about it, then leave it alone. I think it's an interesting question and looked at it from a different perspective. Some people looked at it another way, that's what's great about a conversation.

I'm not the only one that doesn't want to read this e-battle.
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Posted 14 September 2006 - 10:40 PM

QUOTE (JCBizkit87 @ Sep 14 2006, 09:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
My point is your an asshole.

My point is you're a moron and an asshole. The fact you replied the way you have in this thread makes both those points. But I'll stop this now. You're simply not intelligent enough for me to waste any more of my time.
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