WHEN and WHERE is it proven that Chad cannot beat a top tier defense, and can somebody please show me the proof?
Chad lifted the 2006 team into the playoffs, despite his arm not being fully healed yet, by sheer force of talent, leadership and intelligence. He most always made the right play when it mattered, and the Jets stole several games that they probably should have lost.
What the hell has Kellen proven, other than when the team is in total collapse, he can arguably look a bit better than Chad can when the team is in total collapse? You're going to hand the future of the team over to a guy on the basis of that?
YES! That's all that matters, bro. It's about which QB can give you a fighting chance when the game is on the line! Which QB can "arguably" provide that spark that can bolster a come back! That's not enough for you? You'd rather have the QB that can complete 66% of his passes through the first three quarters and can't finish the job in the fourth?! That's crazy talk, keltic. How many more chances are we supposed to give a QB that squeaks by scrub teams and gets demolished by good ones?
We can try and compare Kellen's starting scenario to Pennington's, but those were totally different teams and completely different circumstances when Chad took the reins. We all knew Testaverde was on a short leash and on his way out. Pennington was being groomed to start. But Kellen took over after Chad won Comeback Player of the Year and led us to believe that maybe he can do what it takes to win us games. HUGE difference in the mind states there.
In case you've forgotten, when Chad's around we've rarely ever won the games that we shouldn't have. He's had a history of folding under pressure. Let's strike 2002 from the record.. because it seems as if that Cinderella season is the one thing keeping Pennington supporters lingering around. You can point to the 41-0 demolishing of the Colts in 2002, but that doesn't hold as much validity to me when Indy is infamous for folding in the playoffs anyway. Chad supporters are holding fast to dreams of a healthy 25 year old QB that just doesn't exist anymore!2003
-- sits out the first 6 games with a broken hand. Comes back mid-season and the fans expect an even better show than the one we got in 2002:December 7th, 2003
-- Goes 15/29 against Buffalo's #2 ranked defense. One fumble, One INT, Sacked 5 times.December 22nd, 2003
-- 5 interceptions in one game against New England.
But 2003 is a long time ago, right?2004
-- Playoff Year! He MUST be good again! Starts off strong, but gets injured in Buffalo, sparking the true downward spiral of his career. Mind you now, when he returned the season wasn't a total wash like 2003 and there were meaningful games to play in December. December 12, 2004
-- 17/31 and 3 interceptions against Pittsburgh's number one defense. December 26, 2004
-- 22/36 and 2 interceptions, 1 Fumble lost against New England at Home while we're fighting to stay alive. January 2, 2005
-- We got help getting into the playoffs, but none from Pennington. 21/36, sacked 6 times. January 14, 2005
-- Doug Brien may have missed 2 kicks, but a 5.5yd per pass average, no TDs, and one INT in Pittsburgh didn't help us win either. 2005
-- Waits a month after the season ends to have surgery on his rotator cuff. Starts throwing again in August, and assures everyone that he's back and ready to play. September 11, 2005
-- SIX fumbles in one game, most of em on the snap from Kevin Mawae! 21/34, 7.8 avg, 1 INT, and 3 sacks. September 25, 2005
-- Gets injured again. Out for the season. But before then, 9/19, 4 yd avg, 2 INTs, 4 sacks, and 2 Fumbles.
But you know what.. if I'm striking 2002 from the record, it's only fair that I strike 2005 from the record for you, right?2006
-- Uh oh! Chad had his Wheaties, sprinkled saw dust on them, and drank it down with Jack Daniels! Comeback Player of the Year. Starts off the season with back to back 300+ yard games. But he still can't.. beat.. a TOP.. defense.October 8, 2006
-- Jacksonville Jaguars #2 ranked defense destroys us. Chad is ineffective. 10/17 for 4.2 avg, 3 INTs and 4 sacks. Ouch. We lose 41-0.October 29, 2006
-- This day should live in infamy for Jets fans. The setting: Cleveland. Chris Baker's TD is called incomplete by the refs, and we all cry and complain. But details are forgotten.. crucial, brutal details. Like Pennington struggling against the #27 ranked defense and going 11/28 with a 3.8 yd avg with 2 INTs. I remember being mad at the end of that game.. but I also remember feeling like we didn't deserve a win anyway with how we played.November 19, 2006
-- We lose to the Bears 0-10. It was a fairly close game. Very defensive. But it's another prime example of how Pennington doesn't show up against top defenses. January 7, 2007
-- First round of the Playoffs baby! We're against New England, and to hell with them.. we beat them last year. And then Tom Brady showed us what it's like when your QB isn't one-dimensional. The final score was ugly, but the game was a lot closer than that score suggests. That is until Pennington forgot that Asante Samuel played for the other team. And that my friend, is when it became common knowledge that CBs can jump his short, out-route passes. 2007
-- We finally got an RB that should keep defenders out the box, and Chad is ready to pick it back up, right? Wrong. September 9, 2007
-- Statistically he wasn't bad. But that doesn't tell the tale of the game. Spygate was uncovered as Chad got sacked 4 times. He did injure his ankle though, allowing Clemens to do what we all know he did against Baltimore the next week.September 30, 2007
-- Losing to Buffalo, :11 left in the game in their territory and intercepted. Two plays before that was an underthrown ball to Thomas Jones in the flats where he had daylight.October 7, 2007
-- THREE INTs to the #7 Ranked Defense, New York Giants. October 14, 2007
-- 11/21 and 2 INTS to the #10 Ranked Defense, Philadelphia Eagles.October 21, 2007
-- Intercepted on our 42 with :46 left in the game, and a game on the line.. Touchdown Cincinnati. We lost in OT.
Point made? There's a lot to be said about being a Top Defense. You only get there by shutting down your opponents. So being held in check by a Top D isn't really embarrassing -- they're up there for a reason, right? But when you're a QB that consistently ends up playing the Defense's game, and forfeiting your own strategy, then I lose the will to cheer for you! If you can't even inspire faith in you when we're playing a Top Defense, then all the fun in watching the game is sucked right out!
With your argument, on what grounds is Chad ever supposed to lose the job? A QB is supposed to be the general: the man that leads his team into battle that the entire offense can rally around, right? I'm sorry keltic, but when the game is on the line is when the real quarterbacks show up. Kellen may not have won us a whole lot last year, but his winning instincts brought us closer than Chad could have, even in his better days!