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Jets win 3-1. Beat dolphins so bad that philbin isnt allowed back from england.
azjetfan Icon : (08 October 2015 - 03:07 PM) Dolphins have also fired their DC
ROBJETS Icon : (08 October 2015 - 03:24 PM) I am composed. 115 and I may see things differently but he has never pissed me off. He is just trying to make his point of view and I mine nothing more
ROBJETS Icon : (08 October 2015 - 03:25 PM) I just feel the rule is a very bad rule to give the offense the ball back for losing the ball in the endzone because of a batted ball and feel the NFL is far to offense firendly these days thats all
ROBJETS Icon : (08 October 2015 - 03:27 PM) I know many agree with that. I get that many changes have been made to limit things like brain damage and other injuries some season ending and career ending but defenses cant play hard like they used to and pathetic calls on defenses have ruinbed many games.
ROBJETS Icon : (08 October 2015 - 03:29 PM) Thats why brought up the Jets Fish game. The balls were clearly uncatcahable and a light tug on the jersey shouldn't be a pi. Whatever happened to the uncatchable ball rule?"
ROBJETS Icon : (08 October 2015 - 03:33 PM) and as far as that montage I did have ESPN on for 2 hours after the game because I wanted to see all the reactions and get a clear understanding of this old rule and I never saw a bunch of clips where flags were thrown for the play in question. So I asked for proof. If it was on ESPN it wasn't on ESPN1 maybe ESPN 2 ,3 or news. Its not wrong or brutal to ask for proof when he stated he saw it on ESPN I had the channel on and didn't see what he claimed he saw and still haven't seen any video of proof of his claims
ROBJETS Icon : (08 October 2015 - 03:36 PM) But as I said not mad at all. 115 and I are cool and always have been Ive never been mad at him in anyway. This is a fan forum and we dispute. If we all agreed on everything there would be no point of the forum. Disputes on stats and calls make things interesting, and makes each of use see things from different points of view
Jetsfan115 Icon : (08 October 2015 - 03:56 PM) it was on whatever channel the game itself came on
Jetsfan115 Icon : (08 October 2015 - 03:56 PM) and for the record I don't have any issue with anything rob said. I just disagree with it
Jetsfan115 Icon : (08 October 2015 - 03:57 PM) I do think rules are too offense friendly, but I think in this case, when someone blatently breaks a rule ti should be punished
Jetsfan115 Icon : (08 October 2015 - 03:57 PM) but then again pacman got away with ripping off a players helmet and didn't get a penatly
Jetsfan115 Icon : (08 October 2015 - 03:57 PM) refs need to be more consistent
ROBJETS Icon : (08 October 2015 - 09:04 PM) Hell yeah! Pac 12 AZ State Jaelen Strong. Not a Texans fan but and dont watch a ton of college football but do watch the Pac 12 for football and basketball growing up in Phoenix and also a Suns fan and liking the Cardinals since they moved to AZ .Was a Jets fan though before Az got the cardinals . Strong was really good for AZ State.
ROBJETS Icon : (08 October 2015 - 09:05 PM) Havent studied up on strong for the Texans but will have to since the announcers said he hasnt played much. I want to know if he has been injured or not performing. He has good hands and size
ROBJETS Icon : (08 October 2015 - 09:08 PM) I actually was debating on starting the Colts witth Jets D on bye week glad I dropped them. Wasn't much to choose from. Some decent defenses but bad matchups. took a chance on the Jags this week hoping they can shut down Tampa
ROBJETS Icon : (08 October 2015 - 09:10 PM) Oh and thanks for that 115. people took it wrong. we were simply debating our opinions with passion for our love of football with no animosity and people took it wrong. Easy to misunderstand texts
Jetsfan115 Icon : (09 October 2015 - 11:21 AM) yeah people don't realize it's ok to disagree on the internet without it being 2 people hating each other lol
RetireChrebet Icon : (09 October 2015 - 12:30 PM) I think if the defense touches a live football in the end zone, period, it should be ruled a touchback.
RetireChrebet Icon : (09 October 2015 - 12:30 PM) Talking about fumbles, not passes, of course.
RetireChrebet Icon : (09 October 2015 - 12:31 PM) That's the simplest way to combat any confusion about the rule.
RetireChrebet Icon : (09 October 2015 - 12:32 PM) If you don't like that rule, then don't fumble in the end zone your trying to score in.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (09 October 2015 - 02:21 PM) it's gotta be possession.
RetireChrebet Icon : (09 October 2015 - 04:03 PM) I know what the rule is. In proposing a rule change. Evidently, the way it is now is too complicated. If a defense touches a live football in the end zone it should be their ball at the 20. Problem solved.
RetireChrebet Icon : (09 October 2015 - 04:03 PM) I'm*
Jetsfan115 Icon : (09 October 2015 - 04:44 PM) what if the defense touches it whole trying tor ecover but doens't get it and the offense jumps on it first?
ROBJETS Icon : (09 October 2015 - 05:56 PM) You may not agree with it 115 but the way I look at it is if the offense recovered it it would be a touchdown. Its ok for a punter, qb, or rb ,etc. to deliberately take a safety so they dont get a punt blocked for a td or to avoid giving the ball up on the 1-2 yard line giving up a near definite td. An also those safeties by the O sometimes saves the game because giving up 2 instead of 7 keeps the game in reach at times.
ROBJETS Icon : (09 October 2015 - 06:03 PM) Thats why I disagree with the rule. The offense gets the breaks of only giving up 2 points on O. but when fumbkling into the endzone and out it is always ruled a touchback even if the defender or O tries to recoiver the ball in the endzone and the ball goes out of bounds. Thats why I think batting the ball out of the endzone should still be a touchback instead of giving the ball back to the O that fumbled the ball into the endzone. Just dont feel that they should get a chance to get the ball back for an almost automatic td when they fumbled into the endzone just because of a batted ball. Its something that could litterally cause the defense that made a great play to lose simply because of a vbatted ball. Yet if they try to recover it it and it goes out its a touchback. I just feel its to game changing and a bad rule to give the O the ball back after they messed up bad because that play was the difference between a win and loss. The O fumbles so giving the O the ball back is like saying your great def play was worthless.
ROBJETS Icon : (09 October 2015 - 06:04 PM) Just feel that its a bad rule since it would have almost definitely changed the game winner.
ROBJETS Icon : (09 October 2015 - 06:08 PM) Just to many good rules for the O these days and to many bad rules for the D. this isn't college where offense dominates in most games. In the pros I want to see an equal playing field and not how its become so offensive friendly. Our own Jets have lost a lot of games on defensive calls alone after stopping the O. 3rd down and a mile and a penalty cost a 1st down and in many cases the game for us. Basically that's why I'm against the rule. I want an equal playing field in the pros nothing more.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (09 October 2015 - 06:26 PM) Offense is in control of the ball, they should have that option. Both teams get to play offense it's not unfiar
Jetsfan115 Icon : (09 October 2015 - 06:26 PM) a major defensive play is more game changing then a major offensive play too.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (09 October 2015 - 06:26 PM) turnover ratio is better linked to win/loss then any other stat
Jetsfan115 Icon : (09 October 2015 - 06:27 PM) even in your case the offense gives up 2 point and posession back with good field position and ball control
ROBJETS Icon : (09 October 2015 - 06:33 PM) Lets just a agree to disagree on this topic. We both see the situation different and neither of us will budge on this. best we just let it go and see if the NFL starts enforcing the rule more or changes it at some point. Either way. All the coaches and players in the league now know the rule so I doubt it will deliberately happen again any time soon....but then again who knows...in the games there are a lot of stupid fouls out of frustration, taunting, etc.
ROBJETS Icon : (09 October 2015 - 06:34 PM) And the fans and officials are now aware of a rule almost no one but the officials knew.
ROBJETS Icon : (09 October 2015 - 06:37 PM) Heck Im upset that we arent 4-0 right now with all thr mistakes against the Eagles and still almost coming back. I feel we need every win we can get especially with the Bills looking decent and always having to deal with the pats every year. Be nice to win the division for once. So tired of seeing the Pats win and get a bye almost every year.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (09 October 2015 - 11:12 PM) Why do the Jets DBs have to talk about the Giants WRs!!? Why can't they just worry about our own team.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (09 October 2015 - 11:13 PM) I think all jets fans remember the last time our DBs talked crap about a Giants WR..
MikeGangGree... Icon : (09 October 2015 - 11:13 PM) The jets should just worry about the Jets!!
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 10:29 AM) jets and giants players hang out all the time
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 10:29 AM) i'm sure they dont care lol
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 11:24 AM) well bills won, we need a win this week to stay inn 2nd
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 11:25 AM) at least miami is pretty much done but we have to compete with NE and buffalo still
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 11:26 AM) as santana said, it's probably all in fun. most of these guys in the NFL are friends with players form other teams. I'm sure some jets/giants players are friends with each other
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 10:31 PM) Vick = $$
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Post icon  Posted 16 January 2007 - 03:15 PM

Edited Mike Tannenbaum press conference

By Hoss Aultman

Posted Jan 16, 2007

Q)Your thoughts on the season . . .

[Tannenbaum: I was happy that we were able to play in some meaningful games down the stretch, and into the playoffs. The team got better, especially down the stretch, to give us a chance to play in the playoffs. With that said, as Eric said the other day, it’s a clean slate now. We are 0-0. We are transitioning to 2007.

QWhat are you guys working on right now?

Tannenbaum: Right now we are critically analyzing the 2006 season from the personnel department as well as from the coaching staff. It’s important that we have a good, honest assessment of what we did well and what we can do better. What our strengths are, what are weaknesses are. Once we are done with the critical analysis of our team, Eric and I will assemble our lists of ‘musts and needs.’ We will pursue those ‘musts and needs’ as soon as the 2007 off-season begins, be it offense, defense or special teams. After that, I’ll be heading out to Mobile for the Senior Bowl. Then we will be rolling into the 2007 off-season.

Q)Do you guys need to get bigger on the defensive line? Tannenbaum:

We are going to look at everything, but the run-defense improved considerably over the second half of the season and that kept us in a lot of games. The short yardage and goal line defense was actually very good, especially stopping the run. There were some things to be encouraged by and there were definitely areas where we will need to improve. We have already met with the personnel department to get their thoughts. Over the next couple of days, Eric and I will sit down with the coaching staff to get their thoughts as well.

Q)How do you feel about your current cap situation?

Tannenbaum: I feel comfortable where our cap situation is. I don’t know what that final number is yet, there are still some nuances of contracts being netted out for incentives, but we should be in a comfortable cap situation. Philosophically we want to build our team through the draft as much as possible. Eric and I are committed to that. We are going to try to keep our own players as much as we can. That is another core belief. With that said, if we feel there are opportunities in the free agent market that make sense, we are obviously going to look at it and try to make the best decision.

Q)Do you think you will sign any big money free agents?

Tannenbaum: The core philosophy, obviously, is to spend as much of our resources on our own guys. If there is an opportunity in free agency, it has to be about value. One thing we know about the system, and it has been in around since 1993, you have to accept the consequences of any decision you make, good or bad. It stays on your cap. You have to make sure you feel good about those decisions because right, wrong or indifferent, you are going to have to live with them.

Q)Will you look to get long-term deals done with Jerricho Cotchery or Victor Hobson?

Tannenbaum: Both of those guys had very productive years. They got better and they took to the coaching well. We are going to put our plan in place and try to execute our game plan as best we can. Those are the types of guys that we do like.

Q)Do you guys need to add a feature back this off-season?

Tannenbaum: We did have 1,700 yards and 15 touchdowns as a team. I know it was more of a running back by committee but there still was a level of production. We are going to take a long hard look at it to see what we can do better, but some of the pieces are here.

Q)Do you want to get new contracts done, and sign most new free agents before the draft?

Tannenbaum: What I have learned is, if we can have the roster as well prepared as possible before the draft, then we can be in position to take advantage of opportunities that may present themselves in the draft. Which is what I think happened last year. I don’t want to go into the draft saying, ‘we have to get X or Y,’ because based on history what I have learned is that is when mistakes can be made. I would like to have as few moving parts as possible relative to the roster heading into the draft because then we can capitalize on opportunities if they are presented and we can take what is best value for the team. That is my goal. We are going to work hard between now and the last week in April to put our roster in that position.

Q)How many draft picks do you have this year?

Tannenbaum: We have a first, two seconds, a third, a fifth and a sixth round choice.

Q)What are your thoughts on the season Kevan Barlow had?

Tannenbaum: Certainly the second New England game of the regular season was productive. He had six rushing touchdowns for us. There were some things that he did well. There are some areas, where, I'm sure he wishes he did better.

Now we are going to see what we can do in the future with him.

Q)Can Leon Washington be an everydown back?

Tannenbaum: How many reps he gets will ultimately be Eric’s call. What I will say about Leon that I am really impressed with specifically is he got better at the skill sets that we asked him to get better at in May. Ball security and pass protection in particular got better. He took the coaching well and worked on skill development. By him doing that he earned the right to play more. He earned the right to be there on third down. There are a lot of running backs in this league that aren’t on the field on third down because they cannot protect the quarterback. He could. He is highly competitive. The game is not too big for him.

Q)What are you plans for Tim Dwight?

Tannenbaum: We’ll be meeting with the doctors to get a good game plan over the next few days on all these guys in terms of what their limitations will be in the off-season program, if any, which usually starts traditionally in the third week of March. Some guys are limited to start with.

Q)Will Patrick Ramsey be getting his bonus this spring?

Tannenbaum: We’ll know a lot more about that situation as we get closer to the start of free-agency and when we see where our final cap situation winds up. Eric and I will sit down to discuss him and everybody else. By the start of the league year we’ll have a plan in place.

Q)Will Chad Pennington be the starter next year?

Tannenbaum: Eric is going to decide who plays. Chad Pennington did a great job for us this year, he’s a great leader and he’s a great competitor. There are a lot of things to be encouraged by Chad, in particular his 31-22 record as a starter.

Q)What are the attributes you will be looking for from players you acquire this off-season?

Tannenbaum: I think toughness for any of our players is really important. I think toughness is an endearing quality for anybody on our team. Being smart and competitive and being able take to coaching are all key attributes that our players need to have.

Q)Why was Andre Dyson active for the playoff game when he clearly wasn't 100 percent?

Tannenbaum: In those situations, you have until an hour and a half before the game to cut from 53 to 45. What we try to do there between Eric and myself and the trainers is try to make the best decision with all the information you have. You try to get as many of those decisions right, no one is ever perfect.

Q)Did you expect a little more from Kimo von Oelhoffen?

Tannenbaum: When you build your team, sometimes you see contributions that are either tangible or intangible and I would say, a lot of Kimo’s contributions, were from an intangible standpoint. He brought a lot in terms of leadership and I thought some of the players he helped were very meaningful. Did he contribute to the maximum? There is some room for improvement there.


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Posted 16 January 2007 - 03:23 PM

His answers to the first two questions I am most impressed by as it shows they aren't going to leave any stone unturned this offseason and that the minute we were eliminated from the playoffs, the new season started and they got down to work, no rest. It's the committment any fan wants and that extra work should pay dividends in the future.

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Posted 16 January 2007 - 06:13 PM

Man you cant tell me that Mr.T and Mangini arent the best duo between a GM and a Coach. I mean they both think alike, both talk alike. They are like friggen brothers! They both talk to the media the same way, they dont tell you shit, and thats the way I like it, because its even more of a suprise when a player is signed. I think we need to revamp the offensive line more. I was watching the NE game again, and I have to tell you the 2 guys that got pushed around like nothing was Moore and Ferguson, but Ferguson held more of a fight. Moore was getting killed, I liked this guy and was a huge fan, but u know we do need a upgrade, he isnt progressing anymore he is just degressing. Clements did a nice job actually, so maybe we resign him and then replace Moore? I just dont want to do too much in one year because I wouldnt want to hurt the chemistry of the line. Though they werent very good at all. defintely our weak point on offense this year. Linemen period are our problems.
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