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azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:52 AM) He is a good QB and I would love to have him. However IMO our 6 is not good value for us. Not to mention if he hates the idea of LA what is he going to think of NY? Contract situation would have to be worked out prior to trade as well. Extreme long shot to land Rivers. My money says we are more likely to land Brees.
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:53 AM) which is still a very long shot
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:46 AM) he may just hate ownership. LT's comments yesterday was interesting.
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) “I personally don’t think so,” Tomlinson said. “I really think this is a situation where Philip Rivers wants to move on. The reason why I think that and the reason why I feel like that is the Chargers have already approached Philip about doing another contract and he declined it. He doesn’t want anything to do with it; he didn’t even want to talk about another contract with the San Diego Chargers. That tells me that he’s thinking about moving on.”

“You never want to trade your franchise quarterback,” Tomlinson said, “that’s never the case. However, in this situation they might have no choice but to do so because I don’t know if Philip [Rivers] wants to be there anymore. I think he’s lost confidence in the organization. He’s seeing a lot of changes going on and the L.A. thing is valid; him not wanting to go to L.A., that is very valid, I can see that. So no, it doesn’t make sense to move on from Philip because he’s a franchise quarterback and he still has three to four very good years left.”
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) missed the LA line. nvm. guess that is a legit concern.
Mr_Jet Icon : (21 April 2015 - 03:57 PM) He doesn't want to play for a franchise based in Los Angeles, but he'd be okay with playing for one based in New York City?
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 04:28 PM) That's the point we have all been making.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:05 PM) Jets vs colts Monday night week2
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:09 PM) Jets open at home against the browns
ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:52 PM) Week 5 Bye after the London Game against the Dolphags
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) Rivers is likely going to Tennessee. Would LOVE to have him here but we likely won't make the trade. I'd easily give this year and next year
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) 's first rounder for him
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 11:03 AM) IMO that's a steep price. I would swap this years first and a conditional 1st next year. Assuming we make the AFC Championship. That would be a 28-32nd pick. Otherwise a second.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:07 PM) Yes 2 1st is a lot
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:10 PM) draft is next week, pumped
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:02 PM) What are thoughts on getting a RB in round 1? McShay's newest mock has us taking Gurley at 6. I don't think we should take him that high, but if we trade down and he's available I'd love to snag him, ACL and all. He's got an unreal skill set that, once healthy, will translate readily to the NFL. We're not getting a QB this year without paying a king's ransom, and unless we pay a ransom for a top guy I say ignore QB. I don't want us to take a Hundley or Petty type in the 2nd or 3rd round when we need other pieces (edge rush, OL)
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:11 AM) @ArifHasanNFL

.@LanceZierlein says on http://sports790.com that Shane Ray will need surgery on foot, 5 months recovery. "Could drop out of first"
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
MikeGangGree... Icon : (24 April 2015 - 09:40 PM) TEH RANGERS
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Posted 08 September 2008 - 05:40 PM

Here is my game analysis:

OFFENSE:

After the first touchdown pass, my brother sent me the following text: "How does it feel to have a real NFL quarterback?"
That statement spoke volumes. It's not just the velocity of the actual throw, but the potential to make that throw that transcends the passing game. Ask yourself this question: Does Thomas Jones gash that defense as effectively as he did if Pennington was under center? The answer is no.

The offensive line played well. They created excellent creases for Jones to run through and provide an excellent seal on his touchdown run. Very impressive. The pass protection may have appeared poor but a closer examinaton (I expect this to be an NFL replay game) revealed that Favre did hold the ball a bit longer than he should have. You could see that he was trying to await someone getting open downfield. The strip sack inside the red zone was a good example.

I was very impressed with the tight end play. Tangini finally sent the white boys back to the truck stop at the Denny's in Iowa(the character players) and brought in some coordination and speed to assist Chris Baker. Nice to see we have NFL quality players at this position once more.

DEFENSE:

I watched that blob Chris Jenkins the whole game. When he was on the field he did his job, clogging that middle. This allowed Harris and Barton to fly in and make tackles. The surge was clearly favoring the D-line, as they were pushing people around out there.

The defensive backs did a good job against pedestrian receivers. Revis dropped an interception but made up for it in the end.


Next week will be an excellent test, even sans Tom Brady. I want to see how our front seven stacks up against an excellent offensive line. Conversely, I want to see us run the ball effectively against NE's front 7. I think we need to temper our optimism with caution. I'm happy with the win, however, it was a rebuilding team with low talent level at the skill positions.

Finally, I want to compliment Chad Pennington. He is a true class act and an inspirational leader. Watching him play that game, even with his deficiencies, makes you wonder how effective he would be in Minnesota within the safety of the dome and no wind.
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Posted 08 September 2008 - 05:43 PM

QUOTE (Camenzind @ Sep 8 2008, 06:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Here is my game analysis:

OFFENSE:

After the first touchdown pass, my brother sent me the following text: "How does it feel to have a real NFL quarterback?"
That statement spoke volumes. It's not just the velocity of the actual throw, but the potential to make that throw that transcends the passing game. Ask yourself this question: Does Thomas Jones gash that defense as effectively as he did if Pennington was under center? The answer is no.

The offensive line played well. They created excellent creases for Jones to run through and provide an excellent seal on his touchdown run. Very impressive. The pass protection may have appeared poor but a closer examinaton (I expect this to be an NFL replay game) revealed that Favre did hold the ball a bit longer than he should have. You could see that he was trying to await someone getting open downfield. The strip sack inside the red zone was a good example.

I was very impressed with the tight end play. Tangini finally sent the white boys back to the truck stop at the Denny's in Iowa(the character players) and brought in some coordination and speed to assist Chris Baker. Nice to see we have NFL quality players at this position once more.

DEFENSE:

I watched that blob Chris Jenkins the whole game. When he was on the field he did his job, clogging that middle. This allowed Harris and Barton to fly in and make tackles. The surge was clearly favoring the D-line, as they were pushing people around out there.

The defensive backs did a good job against pedestrian receivers. Revis dropped an interception but made up for it in the end.
Next week will be an excellent test, even sans Tom Brady. I want to see how our front seven stacks up against an excellent offensive line. Conversely, I want to see us run the ball effectively against NE's front 7. I think we need to temper our optimism with caution. I'm happy with the win, however, it was a rebuilding team with low talent level at the skill positions.

Finally, I want to compliment Chad Pennington. He is a true class act and an inspirational leader. Watching him play that game, even with his deficiencies, makes you wonder how effective he would be in Minnesota within the safety of the dome and no wind.

And by the way, Nugent is gutless mental midget and I've had enough of his BS. I couldn't give a rat's rectum about his thigh bruise. I watched DAvid Akers make kicks on one leg. I no longer care that he was a second round pick. He should be on a short lease. Call Jay Feely NOW.
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Posted 08 September 2008 - 06:33 PM

I agree with a lot of things, though not with Nugent.

But anyways the OL gave up 3 sacks because Favre wasn't calling the right protections, Favre even admitted it. A lot of times guys were coming in free on blitzes, Favre has to call out the protection better next week against a better defense. Also Brandon Moore and Nick Mangold were having a tough time, both should get better by next week. I was actually impressed with Damien Woody with pass protection, watching him he was showing good feet and a big guy that doesn't get knocked over by a DE (Aka Anthony Clement against the Titans, embarressing), he was also doing a good job sealing the edge in run blocking.Very apparent improvement over last year, my only problem was his penalty that cost a 1st down, that made it 3rd and 7, instead of the 3rd and 2 that TJ picked up like 7 yards on. Our TEs are good this year, Bubba Franks gave up a sack to Joey Porter, but besides that our blocking from our TEs are very good. Franks is a strong blocker usually, keller was used at a lot of positions, I'll like to see him get the ball more, but we'll see as Favre gets more comfortable.
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Posted 08 September 2008 - 07:44 PM

QUOTE (Camenzind @ Sep 8 2008, 06:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Here is my game analysis:

OFFENSE:

After the first touchdown pass, my brother sent me the following text: "How does it feel to have a real NFL quarterback?"
That statement spoke volumes. It's not just the velocity of the actual throw, but the potential to make that throw that transcends the passing game. Ask yourself this question: Does Thomas Jones gash that defense as effectively as he did if Pennington was under center? The answer is no.

The offensive line played well. They created excellent creases for Jones to run through and provide an excellent seal on his touchdown run. Very impressive. The pass protection may have appeared poor but a closer examinaton (I expect this to be an NFL replay game) revealed that Favre did hold the ball a bit longer than he should have. You could see that he was trying to await someone getting open downfield. The strip sack inside the red zone was a good example.

I was very impressed with the tight end play. Tangini finally sent the white boys back to the truck stop at the Denny's in Iowa(the character players) and brought in some coordination and speed to assist Chris Baker. Nice to see we have NFL quality players at this position once more.

DEFENSE:

I watched that blob Chris Jenkins the whole game. When he was on the field he did his job, clogging that middle. This allowed Harris and Barton to fly in and make tackles. The surge was clearly favoring the D-line, as they were pushing people around out there.

The defensive backs did a good job against pedestrian receivers. Revis dropped an interception but made up for it in the end.
Next week will be an excellent test, even sans Tom Brady. I want to see how our front seven stacks up against an excellent offensive line. Conversely, I want to see us run the ball effectively against NE's front 7. I think we need to temper our optimism with caution. I'm happy with the win, however, it was a rebuilding team with low talent level at the skill positions.

Finally, I want to compliment Chad Pennington. He is a true class act and an inspirational leader. Watching him play that game, even with his deficiencies, makes you wonder how effective he would be in Minnesota within the safety of the dome and no wind.

Someone tell me if I am wrong on this stat: Chad has Never brought us from behind 8+ points in 4th qtr to a win. I don't think he has. Watching him almost do it to us was gut wrenching yesterday. But what the hell, we won.
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Posted 08 September 2008 - 08:04 PM

You sure could see the creases that Jones will have this year. Seemed for him to get 100 yards last year we would hve to hand him the ball over 35 times. Farve has some to do with this but also having a line is most.
Think we should be able to come out in the second half of games this year and tun out it down teams.
Not having our kicker sure kept this game close and Chad will do good early in the year, probably be different the next time we face them. Brett is still learning the calls for protection.
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