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Jetsfan0099 Icon : (18 August 2014 - 03:51 PM) Milliner did suffer a high ankle sprain, that sucks. could linger all year
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (18 August 2014 - 03:52 PM) I think Patterson sucked vs the Colts because he was injured, which he always is.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 06:49 PM) As much as people criticized Tannanbaum for spending too much. It's starting to look like Idzik is going to be too cheap.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 06:52 PM) You get what you pay for and when you let quality players go because you don't want to pay them, this is what happens. You're left with scrub players.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 07:55 PM) I'm still on board with the Idzik plan. Even with Revis and Revis we still are not going to the SB this year. But the down time sucks. If Milliner comes back healthy by week 3 or so we should be fine.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 08:18 PM) Regardless of our SB chances this year or next year. If Idzik keeps acting like a cheapskate and continues to let quality players go, we won't have to worry about winning much of anything this decade.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 09:36 PM) He wants to build through the draft. Not blow the bank on FA. I get what your saying but there is a balance and right now we are not one or two pieces away.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 11:00 PM) It's not about being one or two pieces away. It's about keeping the good pieces you have and building upon that.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 11:04 PM) But there is no sense in trying to build through the draft if he's only going to end up letting the good players he picks up go in FA after a few years. All because he wants to do things on the cheap.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:02 AM) FIRE IDZIK
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:33 AM) out side of Revis who left we should have kept?
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:34 AM) The Revis deal sucks but $16 million was too much for a CB and once he was gone he was not coming back.
Mr_Jet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 11:00 AM) Matt Slauson
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 01:00 PM) Eh. I think with our current cap situation we will be able to retain guys like Wilkerson and whomever we want to keep. We are in a good position right now.
Mr_Jet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 01:49 PM) Time will tell.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 02:00 PM) landed revis abck. got DRC, nope we take patterson who got owned and always hurt. milner always hurt. 3rd round CB done for season. were gonna get passed on all day
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 02:44 PM) Yea the DRC bit makes me iffy
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 03:35 PM) better then patterson
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 05:45 PM) No I mean the fact that he whiffed on him.
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 05:46 PM) I'm not saying Idzik is perfect. I just like the direction we are heading. It's going to take some patience.
RetireChrebet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:27 PM) I like how our lack of secondary is the hot topic right now. The bigger issue is we still will not be able to throw the ball. We are not going to do much of anything regardless until we get a QB. Sorry for being so negative just my honest opinion.
RetireChrebet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:29 PM) With that said I think our running game with CJ and Powell will be top 10 or somewhere around there
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:35 PM) i have faith that if geno messes up that vick can come in and do well. but i have 0 faith in our secondary right now which has been our strong point for the past 4 years or so
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:35 PM) I agree 115. but the one thing is Rex has done some good things in the past with shitty DBs and still had a solid D going back to his years in BAL
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:37 PM) Corey Ivy CB
36 Jim Leonhard SS/PR
43 Haruki Nakamura FS
25 Evan Oglesby CB
20 Ed Reed FS
22 Samari Rolle CB
39 Daren Stone FS
41 Frank Walker CB
31 Fabian Washington in 2008
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:39 PM) Reed is a HOF but Rolle was way past his prime
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:41 PM) SNOOPY BOWL FRIDAY!!!
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:41 PM) WOOOOOOOOOOOOO
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:26 PM) I assume we will pick up a guy after the cuts happen.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 10:14 PM) we'll see but I think we see better QB play than we have in a while.
518-JeTS-FaN Icon : (20 August 2014 - 08:54 AM) disgusted with my local programming, instead of jets and giants they are airing the raiders vs packers..wtf
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (20 August 2014 - 09:23 AM) Glad I don't live up there anymore haha
ganggreen2003 Icon : (20 August 2014 - 06:59 PM) The JETS are #6 in the Forbes List for most franchise value
ganggreen2003 Icon : (20 August 2014 - 06:59 PM) The Buffalo Jills are #31 and the Miami Dolphags are #16 respectively
ganggreen2003 Icon : (20 August 2014 - 07:00 PM) The JETS are worth $1.8 billion
jet-man Icon : (20 August 2014 - 10:03 PM) that's less than the clippers
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Yesterday, 01:07 PM) I'm very excited with the amount of preseason touchdowns the Jets have
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 03:21 PM) FIRE IDZIK
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 07:22 PM) Calvin Pryor and Darrin Walls will start tomorrow
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 08:52 PM) The SIMPSONS MARATHON has been on for almost 12 hours...
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 08:57 PM) Sanchez looks so much more confident and better in Chip's offense than he did with us
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 09:50 PM) EVERY SIMPSONS EVER!!!!!
2JBallar01 Icon : (Today, 07:10 AM) Sanchez is looking good for the eagles. Crazy how a good offense and the right system can make you look so much better. When you're put into a situatuon to succeed, magic happens. Happy for Sanchez, i think he needed a change just as much as the Jets did.
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Day 2 Practice Notes

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Posted 01 August 2009 - 04:57 PM

http://www.nj.com/jets/index.ssf/2009/08/q...s_was.html#more

Quarterback Kellen Clemens was on his way to his best day under coach Rex Ryan until he threw back-to-back interceptions to S Jim Leonhard late in practice. DT Kris Jenkins tweaked his left calf. Minicamp standout, S Eric Smith, had another interception. RB Leon Washington had a 60-yard TD catch, WR Jerricho Cotchery made an electric 50-yard grab between two defenders at the goal line and veteran DE Shaun Ellis and RT Damien Woody almost came to blows.

It was an eventful morning practice at Day 2 of training camp, a spirted and sometimes chippy 2-hour, 20-minute session that ended with kicker Jay Feely nailing four straight field goals. The Jets will hold only a special teams practice this afternoon.

The day started with LB Bryan Thomas absolutely pancaking rookie RB Shonn Greene in a running back vs. linebackers pass-rushing drill. Ryan called it a ``Welcome to the NFL moment'' for Greene.

Midway through practice, Jenkins suddenly pulled up in a heap. The 360-pound veteran said he heard a ``pop pop'' shortly after he exploded out of his stance to rush the passer.

``It's nothing serious,'' said Jenkins, who is expected to be sidelined a few days, possibly a week. ``I won't skip a beat.''

Clemens, who struggled on Friday, started poorly but suddenly got red hot. He hit Washington, who motioned out of the backfield, for a 60-yard TD pass in one segment. Then, in his next set of reps, he hit three straight passes, including a 50-yard steam route to Cotchery. It seemed Clemens had finally laid claim to the top job as Sanchez (4-of-11, 1 INT on 9-on-9 and 11-on-11 drills) had another average day.

But Clemens (6-of-13, 2 INTs) then imploded as he threw back-to-back interceptions to Leonhard in different segments to spoil his day. Ryan said Leonhard is a master at disguising coverages.

The Jets had 9-on-9 passing drills instead of the traditional 7-on-7 because they want the quarterback to feel the rush, said Ryan.

Ellis and Woody exchanged words and nearly came to blows during Leonhard's first interception return when he lateraled the ball to CB Lito Sheppard. Ryan liked the flare-up.

``That's one that nobody would break up,'' joked Ryan. ``Guys just keep fighting until you die.''

Smith, who had five interceptions in three days in minicamp, picked off a Sanchez pass.

Here are a few other Day 2 tibits:

Ryan, who is on a 5-day liquid diet after ballooning to 340 pounds, mockingly jogged into the press conference, saying he had to ``get his jog on.'' Ryan said he's sticking to his diet but the veggie shakes are the worst.

While Ryan jokes about his weight, it's no laughing matter and could evolve into a serious health issue down the road. ... The Jets worked on their Wildcat offense with RB Leon Washington. ... After his interception, Leonhard make a lateral to CB Lito Sheppard, who made a nifty return. Ryan said he has no problem with laterals in those situations because he's trying to score. ... LB Bart Scott is making plays. ... The Jets are using T Wayne Hunter in two-tight end sets. ... Former Rutgers LBs Jamaal Westerman and Brandon Renkart are playing together on the second team. ... LB Calvin Pace cramped up but is fine. ... RB Danny Woodhead (head) missed his second straight practice.
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Posted 01 August 2009 - 05:04 PM

Danny Woodhead got hurt, the dude is too small.


Good to hear that Gholston had a good day.. The QB competition is blah at this point, we all know Sanchez will struggle as he should being a rookie. Clemens is making mistakes too.

I like hearing how Bart Scott yelled at Shonn Greene for not finishing a run, also how Scott is making plays. Love hearing how good our safeties are doing, Eric Smith has been making plays and so has Jim Leonhard, along with Rhodes this might be a nice set of safeties this year. Maybe Mangini didn't know how to use Smith right either?




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Posted 01 August 2009 - 05:51 PM

QUOTE (Jetsfan0099 @ Aug 1 2009, 06:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Danny Woodhead got hurt, the dude is too small.


Good to hear that Gholston had a good day.. The QB competition is blah at this point, we all know Sanchez will struggle as he should being a rookie. Clemens is making mistakes too.

I like hearing how Bart Scott yelled at Shonn Greene for not finishing a run, also how Scott is making plays. Love hearing how good our safeties are doing, Eric Smith has been making plays and so has Jim Leonhard, along with Rhodes this might be a nice set of safeties this year. Maybe Mangini didn't know how to use Smith right either?

I'm not sure where you read anything in that article about Gholston but if you did would you mind posting it, thx
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Posted 01 August 2009 - 05:56 PM

QUOTE (Timebandit @ Aug 1 2009, 06:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm not sure where you read anything in that article about Gholston but if you did would you mind posting it, thx

Sorry about that, read it on another article. Not sure if this is an actual article from a beat writer, or just something from someone who went there from another board. But I'll post it anyways, here you go.



For two hours today on a beautiful morning in Cortland, the best quarterback on the field was Kellen Clemens, not even close. Then came the final 15 minutes of practice, a sobering reminder that the Jets' quarterback competition is going to be a rollercoaster ride.

Clemens tainted an otherwise fine day with back-to-back interceptions, both by S Jim Leonhard, both on passes in which he seemed to lock on to his intended receiver. That gives him three interceptions in three practices. It's too bad because, until the two-pick sequence, he really seemed comfortable in the pocket, directing the offense on an 80-yard drive that ended with a 40-yard scoring strike to Jerricho Cotchery.

But the good things get wiped out in a hurry if the quarterback is committing turnovers.
Neither quarterback was made available to the media today, so we didn't get a chance to speak with Clemens. Neither quarterback is having a great camp so far, which isn't what fans want to hear. But, hey, that's life when you're breaking in a quarterback with only eight career starts and a rookie.

Mark Sanchez threw his first interception of camp. In a 9-on-9 drill (yes, you read that correctly), he tried to hit Wallace Wright (who else?) on a deep seam, but he never saw S Eric Smith and ... pick.

Before I get to the QB stats, let me say I included the results from the 9-on-9. Usually, it'll be only 11-on-11 stats, but we'll make an exception because today was the first time since '06 that coordinator Brian Schottenheimer used a 9-on-9 in practice. (Only three offensive linemen.) Afterward, Rex Ryan said he'd never seen a 9-on-9, but, hey, he was cool with it.

The stats:

Clemens -- 5-for-13, two interceptions, one touchdown.

Sanchez -- 4-for-11, one interception.

Yeesh.

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Leon (I'm here, but I'm not happy) Washington had a great practice. He broke a couple of runs, stood up a couple of linebackers in a one-on-one drill and caught a 30-yard pass from Clemens (okay, the latter came on a busted coverage).

The crowd loved Washington's performance. Every time he made a play, the same guy (I think) yelled, "Please re-sign him. Thank you."

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From a media standpoint, Thomas Jones isn't the most embraced player because he appears aloof and distant. But his teammates respect him a lot, and it's easy to see why. He plays with pride and passion.

In a one-on-one pass-rushing drill, Jones was knocked backward by LB Vernon Gholston. Ticked off at himself, Jones screamed an expletive. Gholston outweighs him by nearly 50 pounds, but Jones still expected to make that block.

Make no mistake, Jones takes this stuff very seriously. Unfortunately for him, that's probably not going to get him a new contract.

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Rookie RB Shonn Greene was pancaked by OLB Bryan Thomas in the same pass-rushing drill. Ryan said it was Greene's "Welcome-to-the-NFL" moment.

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Gholston (yes, him) flashed a few times in practice, pressuring Clemens on an inside rush. This is a huge camp for Gholston because he'll probably be the opening-day starter at outside linebacker, as Calvin Pace must serve a four-game suspension. Gholston isn't getting many first-team reps, other than the nickel package, which is kind of odd. You'd think they'd want to get him up to speed as quickly as possible, considering his new role. But he did have a solid practice, so that's encouraging for the Jets.

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Just call him Eric Smith, interception machine. Building on his terrific minicamp, where it seemed like he had a dozen picks in two days (actually it was five, I think), Smith is off to a nice start. He earned some praise from Ryan. So did Leonhard, one of his favorites in Baltimore.

"He disguises coverages better than anybody in the league other than Ed Reed," Ryan said of Leonhard.

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Here's something you didn't see too often under Eric Mangini: A defensive lateral. A split-second after intercepting Clemens, Leonhard pitched the ball backward to CB Lito Sheppard, who cut across the field and up the sideline for a 40-yard scoring return.

Mangini always preached that it wasn't sound football to gamble with a lateral, but Ryan is all for it. His philosophy is clear: We want to score on defense. He has very specific rules on when players should and shouldn't try a lateral, but generally speaking, he likes the idea.

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S Kerry Rhodes said he caught some grief from Giants DE Justin Tuck, a friend, for proclaiming on his Twitter page that the Jets will have the No. 1 defense in the league ... RB Danny Woodhead sat out for the second straight practice after being knocked woozy in yesterday's morning sessions. "He couldn't remember the first part of practice, so that was a good indication to take him out," Ryan said ... DE Shaun Ellis and RT Damien Woody had a heated exchange at the tail end of Sheppard's interception return.

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One day after telling the world that he's on a five-day liquid diet to shed some of his 340 pounds, Ryan, ever the jokester, jogged into his daily news conference, pretending he had just finished a long run.

Ryan isn't a fan of the vegetable shakes he's forced to drink for lunch and dinner: "I'm plugging my nose to drink it." But he's sticking with the diet, he said.

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Posted 01 August 2009 - 09:52 PM

Scoring in all 3 phases of the game is nothing new and neither is talking about it.just hoping that Rex and Mangini's players and Tanny too can turn heads this year and against the Giants . I don't want to sneak up on any team this year.
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Posted 01 August 2009 - 11:07 PM

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Overall, a very good-looking practice. Alot of promising stuff, and some stuff that should worry Jets fans.

--Rex has this thing running like clockwork, which I didn't expect. Guys are moving at all times, the drills start and end on time, and there isn't alot of screwing around. Mangini had this too, but for some reason it doesn't seem as regimented, as militarized. The players look focused and hungry.

--Rex is a large man, and he runs the whole ship. I was worried that he was goingto come in here and not be prepared to lead the whole team, and instead hide out on the defensive side of the football all day, but he didn't. He was very vocal and very active in many of the drills, both offensively and defensively, and it looks, so far, as though the players are responding really well for him. When he yelled at them to jump, they jumped, and when he told them to move their asses, they moved. You didn't always see this with Mangini, and especially not with Herm.

--Cortland was the right choice for this type of thing. It's a small school, but it's known for its athletics and the facilities are relatively new. The stadium is big, and the sight-lines for the practices are great. MUCH better than the Giants have at Albany. Here, you can see every player and watch every drill if you wanted to without ever leaving your bleacher seat.


The Offense::

Summary: The offense is going to be rough to watch this year, no question. The receivers do not get open against even the Jets second string DB's like Lowery and Drew Coleman, and this is really, really hurting the reads of both Clemens AND Sanchez, which has to be a concern.

Clemens v. Sanchez:: Neither really shined because of the problems the receivers have getting off the jam and getting open, and both are developing the habit of squeezing the ball too long. Clemens, in particular, holds the ball for an eternity, and Sanchez, though quicker, was starting to hold on to the ball, especially after he threw a brutal pick (a lazy pass 15 yards downfield near the left sideline that Eric Smith easily picked off).

Looking at Sanchez, he doesn't have big-time zip on the ball, but it's a pretty pass that is really accurate to the degree that he puts it on the receivers inside or outside shoulder consistently. He hasn't ripped it yet, but the early returns aren't awesome as far as arm strength goes. He looked better midway through the practice when he started letting it fly in position drills, but when they got to the 11 on 11's, his passes were relatively easy prey for the D and after the pick to Smith, Sanchez stuck to trying to complete dump passes.

Clemens is Clemens, which means he looks really good at times, and then he'll turn around and throw the worst pass you've ever seen. Jim Leonhard picked Clemens twice in the scrimmage, both fairly easy plays where Clemens threw it seemingly right to him in underneath coverage. But Clemens also threw some brilliant passes--one to Jerricho that Clemens placed beautifully into his hands over Kerry Rhodes, and another shot earlier to Leon Washington that was well-placed behind Revis, who was in Cover-Two.

In sum, the QB competition has a long way to go, but it looks like Clemens has a huge advantage over Sanchez. Sanchez, in the same scrimmage, looked bad and got, maybe, six plays to Clemens' twenty. I am sure in the later practice that Sanchez will get more snaps to show his stuff, but the early (early, early) returns are that he needs a hell of alot of time and patience. Not having big-time receivers to throw to is clearly going to hurt his development, and it seemed to really shake his confidence today when no one could get open in live drills. I really think that the Jets should dump Erik AInge (horrible, btw), and go out and pick up a veteran QB who can teach both Sanchez and Clemens the nuances of the position, especially given the lack of talent around them. I fear a David Carr situation with Sanchez. I really do. WHen CLemens and Sanchez aren't in the drill, they stand there talking to each other and, really, wouldn't they be better served talking to a veteran QB who can tell them what they should be looking for the next time out?

Line play:: The O-line, as expected, looks to be in good shape. The right side was quiet, and held up well, as most of the blitzing packages seemed to be focused on coming off the left side. Brick still looks like he's 285 pounds. I know the papers have been saying he "bulked up," but it's not at all obvious from a distance. Still, he held his ground well, and only Calvin Pace seemed to be able to push Brick around a little bit. Mangold and Faneca had all kinds of problems with Kris Jenkins, who was just a beast. Let's hope this was just a case of Jenkins being too good, and not that the Jets interior line is too small. Overall, the line held up well against the pass rush, and struggled blocking the run, which is typical for the first few days of camp.

The big problem on the line is the TE play, as there are no real TE's on the roster. Dustin Keller lines up on the end, but he looks like he'd rather be anywhere else than that, and it becomes truly scary when he gets buried at the bottom of the pile. If you lose him, you lose your second best receiver, and there is no third best receiver outside of Leon Washington. Tannenbaum HAS to bring in a legit blocker at TE, and he has to do it quick before Keller gets one of his backs killed with a matador block, or, worse, Keller gets his leg bent back under a pile at the LOS.


The receivers, as mentioned, are brutal beyond Jerricho and Keller, and this is SO serious because it's going to screw Sanchez up until it's rectified. NO ONE gets open, and the QB's end up holding the ball. If they allowed sacks today, Clemens and Sanchez would be in an emergency room getting cleats pumped out of their stomachs. The team doesn't have to go get an elite receiver, but they DO need a veteran who knows how to shake a DB. Watching Brad Smith, Clowney and ever Stuckey getting owned all over the place by Revis and Co., with minimal effort, was pathetic.

As far as backs, Leon caught a few passes, and Thomas Jones snaked through a few holes, but running the ball was a labor against the defense though it got easier when Kris Jenkins limped out with a calf. The hitting in the line was explosive, and it was inevitable that someone was going to get banged up. Shonn Greene showed nothing, and nearly got decapitated in a blocking drill when Bryan Thomas, running half-speed, buried him. It was ugly.


Defense::

Summary: Kris Jenkins, Bart Scott and Darrelle Revis are on another level, and everyone else is tagging along.

Along the defensive line, Jenkins was absolutely killing people until he went out with a calf injury. You could hear the pads exploding all the way up into the bleachers, and then all you saw was a mass of bodies lying in a pile three yards behind the line, with #77 being in the middle of it all. It's just a freaky thing to watch him move people around. Mangold, in particular, got the worst of it. He is unblockable. He limped off, though, and he didn't look awful. AT first we thought it was just a cramp--it deinitely didn't appear to be the knee. When Jenkins goes out, though, there is nothing behind him. Pouha and Green are not capable, and the O-line just pushes everyone else around when they don't have to worry about Jenkins. I know they're impossible to find, but Tannenbaum really has to be on te lookout for some size in the middle to help out in the event that Jenkins has to sit out, because it's bleak with what they have now. Sean Ellis made a few plays and was very active, as well.

At LB, Bart Scott is already the leader of this team. Great moment with Scott: they are having front-seven drills (O-line and backs vs. D-line and LB's) and Shonn Greene squirts through a hole and stumbles, then gets back up and starts running as if he broke a tackle. Bart Scott, who had his helmet off and was just watching the play, pushes Greene in the chest and tells him (it looked like) to stop frontin' and get back to the huddle. Greene slapped his hand away, but ran back to the huddle and wasn't seen again the rest of the day. It is clear that Scott rules the roost on defense (thank God) and isn't afraid to talk trash and bark orders. Scott got cooked solid by Dustin Keller on a few plays, though, and pass coverage will continue to be a major issue for the LB group. Already, the combination of Bart Scott and David Harris looks ferocious vs. the run on the interior.

Bryan Thomas looked aggressive, believe it or not, and hit people hard whether they had the ball or not. Hopefully, Scott's influence will get to guys like Thomas and Gholston, who need a kick in the ass.

As for Gholston, he looks like he dropped 15 pounds in his lower body, and he looks more agile than he did last year. He still hangs his head too much and he still plays like he's bored, but he showed a little more desire on the pass rush, and he actually got physical with Nick Mangold on one play, driving Nick back into the pocket on the blitz. It looks like Pettine is going to get creative with Gholston by having him circle inside and blitz up the middle and also lining up in the three-point stance. I think alot of Gholston's problems start and end with the consistency of his effort, and it will be interesting to see how much rope Rex gives him in terms of playing time should Gholston not bring it on every play. He just seems too gifted to be doing so little on a football field, while Calvin Pace goes out there with half the athleticism and can be twice as effective at the same position.

The DB's looked good today, with the exception being Rhodes getting turned around by Jerricho Cotchery on Clemens' TD pass. Darrelle Revis is on another planet, and easily covered anyone they put in front of him. Lito Sheppard is an upgrade over what we had last year, but you have to worry about how he'll hold up this season when he's getting every ball thrown his way as teams try to avoid Revis. Lowery looks quicker this year, and he could be the nickel back when it's all said and done. At safety, Eric Smith and Jim Leonhard were the stars today, with both of them getting picks (Leonhard got two), and both of them had a few deflections. Leonhard is the de-facto DB coach, and is always talking to Smith and Kerry Rhodes what's going on with the D. I was interested to see what Rex Ryan and Mike Pettine did with Kerry, and if they really tried using him in the same way as they used Ed Reed but that didn't seem to be the case. Kerry was doing what Kerry does best, which was to run downfield trying to pick off passes. He wasn't used aggressively near the LOS, and he seemingly wasn't used as a "robber," coming up in the underneath zones trying to jump routes. Surprisingly, that was where Leonhard was playing on both of his picks.

Not to beat a dead horse, but the success of the DB's has to be weighed against the competition they were facing. While Cotchery, Keller, and Leon all had nice catches for long gains today, no one else even showed up on the radar in live drills. Not having that big-time (or, medium-time) receiver here to balance the field not only hurts the QB's, it may also be hurting the defensive preparation as well.

Not much on the specials today, with Jay Feely looking good and Leon returning some kicks. Revis took one kick back which made me ill as I flashed back to the injury (on a kick return) by the Giants' Jason Sehorn that effectively ruined his career. Please, no more Revis on kick returns!
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Posted 02 August 2009 - 08:01 AM

Not good about our WRs... If no one is getting open then we shouldn't start Sanchez, it could destroy his confidence. At least don't start him right away. We most likely will have a losing record this year, our offense is not going to be very good with out a threat at passing the ball.

I don't agree with the veteran QB, who is out there? don't bring in a veteran QB just for the sake of it, I believe Rex said we have 2 past NFL QBs in our coaching staff? I think he said there is 2 QB coaches? But I know one was a past NFL QB.

Our defense should be awesome.
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Posted 02 August 2009 - 10:26 AM

Yeah, the receiver issue really makes me nervous regarding Sanchez development. I hope Plaxico stays out of jail!
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Posted 02 August 2009 - 10:57 AM

jetsfan, thx

Not for nothing even if Plax stays out of jail I don't want him.



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Posted 02 August 2009 - 03:52 PM

Don't panic this is a west coast offense . and a east coast offense
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Posted 02 August 2009 - 08:04 PM

QUOTE (Jetsfan0099 @ Aug 1 2009, 05:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Danny Woodhead got hurt, the dude is too small.

Do you think the same thing about Leon? LW is one inch taller, same weight. There must be some other bias going on here........sheesh.
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Posted 02 August 2009 - 08:09 PM

QUOTE (unklB @ Aug 2 2009, 09:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Do you think the same thing about Leon? LW is one inch taller, same weight. There must be some other bias going on here........sheesh.

Leon is thicker than Woodhead, you can tell by looking at both of them. Leon has much thicker legs and just looks stronger. Woodhead seems just small, doesn't even look like a football player.
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