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MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:09 PM) Jets open at home against the browns
ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:52 PM) Week 5 Bye after the London Game against the Dolphags
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) Rivers is likely going to Tennessee. Would LOVE to have him here but we likely won't make the trade. I'd easily give this year and next year
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) 's first rounder for him
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 11:03 AM) IMO that's a steep price. I would swap this years first and a conditional 1st next year. Assuming we make the AFC Championship. That would be a 28-32nd pick. Otherwise a second.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:07 PM) Yes 2 1st is a lot
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:10 PM) draft is next week, pumped
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:02 PM) What are thoughts on getting a RB in round 1? McShay's newest mock has us taking Gurley at 6. I don't think we should take him that high, but if we trade down and he's available I'd love to snag him, ACL and all. He's got an unreal skill set that, once healthy, will translate readily to the NFL. We're not getting a QB this year without paying a king's ransom, and unless we pay a ransom for a top guy I say ignore QB. I don't want us to take a Hundley or Petty type in the 2nd or 3rd round when we need other pieces (edge rush, OL)
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
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.@LanceZierlein says on http://sports790.com that Shane Ray will need surgery on foot, 5 months recovery. "Could drop out of first"
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
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Jetsman05 Icon : (Today, 06:58 AM) Vic Beasley is all speed. No moves, no power. Straight up the field. Could have some big games, then nothing in the next
Jetsman05 Icon : (Today, 06:59 AM) If we don't get Mariota, we should be looking at Schreff or trading down, IMO.
Jetsman05 Icon : (Today, 06:59 AM) A lot of good edge rushers in this draft... I wouldn't want to take Dupree that high.
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Posted 17 January 2009 - 09:18 AM

The chatter continues on Tannenbaum
By Dan Leberfeld

Posted Jan 16, 2009

I heard Carl Banks talking today on the radio about the current . . .

"Does Mike Tannenbaum need a personnel guy to come in and help him - maybe," Banks said.

Now Banks wasn't taking a shot at Tannenbaum. He was just bringing up a theory that a lot of people seam to have, that perhaps Tannenbaum is over his head.

I don't think he is. The man has been in the league over a decade. When will the critics allow him to drop the tag of "cap guy" and respect him as a "football guy?"

It's about time for people to realize is now a bonafide football man.

You get the sense there are some personnel guys in the league who resent that Tannenbaum has a GM job and they don't. It seems like in every other issue of Pro Football Weekly, some unnamed scout or personnel director is taking a shot at Tannenbaum.

This is just jealousy at work.

And the concept that the Jets need to bring in some personnel guru to help Tannenbaum is misguided and I will tell you why.

Do people think that he is making personnel decisions on an island? He's got two very capable first lieutenants in Terry Bradway and Joey Clinkscales on the college side, and JoJo Wooden and Scott Cohen on the pro side.

And when the new coach is named, he will have another talent evaluator to lean on.

He's not sitting in his office like some kind of Hugo Chavez figure acting like a dictator and not listening to people.

It's really time for all the questions about Tannenbaum's qualifications to end.

Is he the best GM in the league? No.
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Posted 17 January 2009 - 09:23 AM

If he needs so many guys to "lean" on, then I would think that it is quite possible that the team could have used a GM with experience...


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Posted 17 January 2009 - 09:42 AM

Well since Tannenbaum has been GM we have had very successful drafts(sans Gholston), successful trades(Jenkins), and successful free agent signings(Pace, T. Richardson, Faneca, Woody).

Aaaaaaaaannnndddd our cap has been completely under control despite all this spending. What the hell are people bitching about, honestly?
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Posted 17 January 2009 - 10:39 AM

QUOTE (HurricaneJet32 @ Jan 17 2009, 09:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well since Tannenbaum has been GM we have had very successful drafts(sans Gholston), successful trades(Jenkins), and successful free agent signings(Pace, T. Richardson, Faneca, Woody).

Aaaaaaaaannnndddd our cap has been completely under control despite all this spending. What the hell are people bitching about, honestly?

I don't know, people just like complaining I guess. I don't think hes terrible like others think. I think hes doing a good job as GM. Sure he made a couple of mistakes but every GM has made their mistakes. But he has done more good then bad IMO.


People on here last year were saying how no FA would sign with us because of the Kendall situation and all that shit. Then we end up getting the top line FA pickups. Give me a GM that is good with numbers and is a hard negotiator with good scouts and personnel guys anyday. The way the Jets are set up Tannenbaum is not the almighty ego maniac power guy, he works with others. He believes in a group effort, not one guy demanding shit. Get a good HC that knows what he wants and it works.
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Posted 17 January 2009 - 01:40 PM

QUOTE (HurricaneJet32 @ Jan 17 2009, 09:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Aaaaaaaaannnndddd our cap has been completely under control despite all this spending. What the hell are people bitching about, honestly?



The cap may start getting out of control. This season's looking a little tight with the cap.
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Posted 17 January 2009 - 02:08 PM

QUOTE (GreenRebel @ Jan 17 2009, 01:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The cap may start getting out of control. This season's looking a little tight with the cap.

We will be fine. It looks bad but numbers can be reworked and players can be cut. This is Tannenbaum's strength, the numbers. So we will be fine.
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Posted 17 January 2009 - 03:19 PM

Tannenbaum is a beast as a cap guy. As far as a football guy he's yet to impress me. I remember Favre saying that he was the busiest and most hard working GM in the league when they signed him.

Every GM has people to lean on. Terry Bradway is a very good reliable source and same with Clinkscales. No GM is out there making all the calls by themselves. He's surrounded around a pretty damn good team.

No worries here. Not yet anyways.
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Posted 17 January 2009 - 09:35 PM

Maybe its just me & maybe this is something I am thinking is simpler than it is, but all Tanny really has to do is push a lot of the cap money from '09 to '10 without having to worry about repercussions considering 2010 will be a free for all considering it's an uncapped year.

I'm really surprised most teams aren't going into a frenzy already with pushing contracts numbers around to shove most of the money to 2010. It's already too late for a new CBA to be put in place to place a cap on 2010. We are nowhere near as in trouble with the cap as many people think.

If I'm wrong, please someone enlighten me so that I'll know. I am serious with that too. Not being sarcastic.
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Posted 17 January 2009 - 10:02 PM

Mr. T is definatley a hell of a negotiator and money worker, however we don't know how much of the player personnel was Mangini deciding who was good to pick up. Hopefully the front office will change their stance about managing player personnel when Rex gets there b/c that wasn't why the team went down the drain. It was more of the leadership part. And for me I never liked how Mangini never made 2nd half adjustments, but w/e thats all done with now... hopefully

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