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Jetsfan0099 Icon : (18 August 2014 - 03:51 PM) Milliner did suffer a high ankle sprain, that sucks. could linger all year
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (18 August 2014 - 03:52 PM) I think Patterson sucked vs the Colts because he was injured, which he always is.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 06:49 PM) As much as people criticized Tannanbaum for spending too much. It's starting to look like Idzik is going to be too cheap.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 06:52 PM) You get what you pay for and when you let quality players go because you don't want to pay them, this is what happens. You're left with scrub players.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 07:55 PM) I'm still on board with the Idzik plan. Even with Revis and Revis we still are not going to the SB this year. But the down time sucks. If Milliner comes back healthy by week 3 or so we should be fine.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 08:18 PM) Regardless of our SB chances this year or next year. If Idzik keeps acting like a cheapskate and continues to let quality players go, we won't have to worry about winning much of anything this decade.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 09:36 PM) He wants to build through the draft. Not blow the bank on FA. I get what your saying but there is a balance and right now we are not one or two pieces away.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 11:00 PM) It's not about being one or two pieces away. It's about keeping the good pieces you have and building upon that.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 11:04 PM) But there is no sense in trying to build through the draft if he's only going to end up letting the good players he picks up go in FA after a few years. All because he wants to do things on the cheap.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:02 AM) FIRE IDZIK
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:33 AM) out side of Revis who left we should have kept?
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:34 AM) The Revis deal sucks but $16 million was too much for a CB and once he was gone he was not coming back.
Mr_Jet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 11:00 AM) Matt Slauson
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 01:00 PM) Eh. I think with our current cap situation we will be able to retain guys like Wilkerson and whomever we want to keep. We are in a good position right now.
Mr_Jet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 01:49 PM) Time will tell.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 02:00 PM) landed revis abck. got DRC, nope we take patterson who got owned and always hurt. milner always hurt. 3rd round CB done for season. were gonna get passed on all day
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 02:44 PM) Yea the DRC bit makes me iffy
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 03:35 PM) better then patterson
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 05:45 PM) No I mean the fact that he whiffed on him.
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 05:46 PM) I'm not saying Idzik is perfect. I just like the direction we are heading. It's going to take some patience.
RetireChrebet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:27 PM) I like how our lack of secondary is the hot topic right now. The bigger issue is we still will not be able to throw the ball. We are not going to do much of anything regardless until we get a QB. Sorry for being so negative just my honest opinion.
RetireChrebet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:29 PM) With that said I think our running game with CJ and Powell will be top 10 or somewhere around there
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:35 PM) i have faith that if geno messes up that vick can come in and do well. but i have 0 faith in our secondary right now which has been our strong point for the past 4 years or so
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:35 PM) I agree 115. but the one thing is Rex has done some good things in the past with shitty DBs and still had a solid D going back to his years in BAL
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:37 PM) Corey Ivy CB
36 Jim Leonhard SS/PR
43 Haruki Nakamura FS
25 Evan Oglesby CB
20 Ed Reed FS
22 Samari Rolle CB
39 Daren Stone FS
41 Frank Walker CB
31 Fabian Washington in 2008
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:39 PM) Reed is a HOF but Rolle was way past his prime
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:41 PM) SNOOPY BOWL FRIDAY!!!
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:41 PM) WOOOOOOOOOOOOO
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:26 PM) I assume we will pick up a guy after the cuts happen.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 10:14 PM) we'll see but I think we see better QB play than we have in a while.
518-JeTS-FaN Icon : (20 August 2014 - 08:54 AM) disgusted with my local programming, instead of jets and giants they are airing the raiders vs packers..wtf
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (20 August 2014 - 09:23 AM) Glad I don't live up there anymore haha
ganggreen2003 Icon : (20 August 2014 - 06:59 PM) The JETS are #6 in the Forbes List for most franchise value
ganggreen2003 Icon : (20 August 2014 - 06:59 PM) The Buffalo Jills are #31 and the Miami Dolphags are #16 respectively
ganggreen2003 Icon : (20 August 2014 - 07:00 PM) The JETS are worth $1.8 billion
jet-man Icon : (20 August 2014 - 10:03 PM) that's less than the clippers
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Yesterday, 01:07 PM) I'm very excited with the amount of preseason touchdowns the Jets have
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 03:21 PM) FIRE IDZIK
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 07:22 PM) Calvin Pryor and Darrin Walls will start tomorrow
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 08:52 PM) The SIMPSONS MARATHON has been on for almost 12 hours...
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 08:57 PM) Sanchez looks so much more confident and better in Chip's offense than he did with us
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 09:50 PM) EVERY SIMPSONS EVER!!!!!
2JBallar01 Icon : (Today, 07:10 AM) Sanchez is looking good for the eagles. Crazy how a good offense and the right system can make you look so much better. When you're put into a situatuon to succeed, magic happens. Happy for Sanchez, i think he needed a change just as much as the Jets did.
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Today, 08:02 AM) Preseason doesn't matter at all
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Today, 11:10 AM) anyone have a stream for the preseaosn agme by chance?
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#1 User is offline   richkotite2006 Icon

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Posted 29 November 2005 - 08:45 PM

A nose tackle's job to to stop the run. 36 tackles in 11 games is a joke! All you De-rob backers must understand.... Have any of you guys watched him play.... I am not talking the entire defense and what happens after the play, but just him alone. He stands right up and gets no penetration. He has not been double teamed because he is too weak to drive a single player into the backfield.

He has been getting driven into the linebackers. Double teams are you kidding me? He cannot even hold his ground to stuff the run. Usually you'll see him standing around the person who make the tackle after being pushed there by the center. Watch him next game!

This is our #1 pick of which we gave up 2 #1's for? He should dominate for this reason alone. My grandmother could play better defensive line and she is dead! You guys are waiting for this piece of crap to finally do something. 1 big game this year. How many years have we've been terrible against the run 5-6?
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Posted 29 November 2005 - 08:52 PM

#1 - D-Rob isn't the nose, James Reed is.

#2 - Nose Tackles aren't supposed to get alot of tackles. They're supposed to line up across from center and basically dance with him while other guys do important things.
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Posted 29 November 2005 - 08:55 PM

Further more, defensive linemen are NOT supposed to rack up tackles, they are more there to plug holes, rush the passer and eat blocks so the linebackers can make a play.
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Posted 29 November 2005 - 08:58 PM

Other than that, I think you're right. He certainly hasn't played like he's the #4 pick in the draft and he definately wasn't worth all that money that we forked over.
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Posted 29 November 2005 - 08:59 PM

QUOTE (richkotite2006 @ Nov 29 2005, 09:20 PM)
This is our #1 pick of which we gave up 2 #1's for?  He should dominate for this reason alone.  My grandmother could play better defensive line and she is dead!  You guys are waiting for this piece of crap to finally do something.  1 big game this year.  How many years have we've been terrible against the run 5-6?





dam how big was your granny?




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Posted 29 November 2005 - 09:08 PM

QUOTE (richkotite2006 @ Nov 29 2005, 09:20 PM)
A nose tackle's job to to stop the run.  36 tackles in 11 games is a joke! All you De-rob backers must understand.... Have any of you guys watched him play.... I am not talking the entire defense and what happens after the play, but just him alone.  He stands right up and gets no penetration.  He has not been double teamed because he is too weak to drive a single player into the backfield.

He has been getting driven into the linebackers.  Double teams are you kidding me?  He cannot even hold his ground to stuff the run. Usually you'll see him standing around the person who make the tackle after being pushed there by the center.  Watch him next game! 

This is our #1 pick of which we gave up 2 #1's for?  He should dominate for this reason alone.  My grandmother could play better defensive line and she is dead!  You guys are waiting for this piece of crap to finally do something.  1 big game this year.  How many years have we've been terrible against the run 5-6?


last year we were the 5th best team against the run with a real nose tackle, now with a guy that's 5'11 280 at the nose we've been terrible. Next years 2 priorty, get a real NT
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Posted 29 November 2005 - 09:16 PM

I think your the one that doesn't know to much buddy.

DT's are not supposed to get alot of tackles just like jetsohfive said.

To make a great D.T you need a big N.T to take on double teams.

Take it from jetsohfive the guy played Olineman. He knows his shit.

I think it's time to go back to football 101. Learn the basic mechanics.
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Posted 29 November 2005 - 09:32 PM

Wait............does the punter try for field goals?......or..mno wait, the OT does...thats right


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Posted 29 November 2005 - 09:34 PM

I think we found the biggest idiot on this site, congrats on winnign that award mr. Rich Kotite. You have proved post after post, that you are simply an idiot. Since when does Defensive Lineman get a lot of tackles. Most of their tackles, are tackles for a loss, or Sacks. The most of the tackles of course go to the linebackers.
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Posted 29 November 2005 - 10:34 PM

well i guess last year when he dominated for 18 games he didn't have the strength to push back blockers either? yeah right. you guys are so funny. how the hell does D-rob have the strength to dominate last year and this year he can't push anyone back? it must be his age right. he's nearing the 30 mark(sarcasm). whateva. D-rob is a good player. he needs other people around him but he's still a good player.
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Posted 29 November 2005 - 10:36 PM

QUOTE (triple3s @ Nov 29 2005, 11:09 PM)
well i guess last year when he dominated for 18 games he didn't have the strength to push back blockers either? yeah right. you guys are so funny. how the hell does D-rob have the strength to dominate last year and this year he can't push anyone back? it must be his age right. he's nearing the 30 mark(sarcasm). whateva. D-rob is a good player. he needs other people around him but he's still a good player.



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Posted 29 November 2005 - 10:39 PM

Once again, just look at the ass clown's nick name, and you'll know dip shit over here is just trying to start shit. Whatever will piss people off he'll write. And once more, don't give him the satisfaction, ignore butt pirate, please!


PS - sdubb, make sure to put "League Leading 120 Tackles and League Leading 84 solo" in your sig...just makes it all the better!
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Posted 29 November 2005 - 10:41 PM

QUOTE (HurricaneJet32 @ Nov 29 2005, 11:14 PM)
Once again, just look at the ass clown's nick name, and you'll know dip shit over here is just trying to start shit.  Whatever will piss people off he'll write.  And once more, don't give him the satisfaction, ignore butt pirate, please!
PS - sdubb, make sure to put "League Leading 120 Tackles and League Leading 84 solo" in your sig...just makes it all the better!



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Posted 29 November 2005 - 10:43 PM

QUOTE (HurricaneJet32 @ Nov 30 2005, 04:14 AM)
Once again, just look at the ass clown's nick name, and you'll know dip shit over here is just trying to start shit.  Whatever will piss people off he'll write.  And once more, don't give him the satisfaction, ignore butt pirate, please!
PS - sdubb, make sure to put "League Leading 120 Tackles and League Leading 84 solo" in your sig...just makes it all the better!


Did you just call him a butt pirate?

lol

Sounds like something Beavis & Butthead would say... lol
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Posted 30 November 2005 - 05:16 AM

Shaun Rogers 22 tackles, less than d-rob are you going to question his ability to play tackle?

i never thought that tackles were important for a big DT, just pressure, collapsing the pocket anf filling gaps and forcing running backs to change their direction
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Posted 30 November 2005 - 07:55 AM

QUOTE (predator94 @ Nov 30 2005, 05:51 AM)
Shaun Rogers    22 tackles, less than d-rob are you going to question his ability to play tackle? 

i never thought that tackles were important for a big DT, just pressure, collapsing the pocket anf filling gaps and forcing running backs to change their direction

Bingo on that last one. That's what lets you know whether or not a defensive lineman is doing his job against the run.
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Posted 30 November 2005 - 08:01 AM

If we sign a big nose tackle this offseason then we should be back up near top for run D.
Another big guy to go alongside DRob and that will open more space for our Linebackers and also would allow us to get more sacks as there will be more to handle with another 315+ lb guy, allowing Ellis,DRob or Abe to get a sack.
I think the past two years D Rob has played well and was a reason why our run D improved so much last year. This year against Tampa he was great and he has played well in other games too
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Posted 30 November 2005 - 09:35 AM

You guys have it all figured out. A bunch on New York geniouses! Keep supporting this pile of dung. I'm sure he'll continue to disappoint for years to come.
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Posted 30 November 2005 - 09:38 AM

I would love to read your point of view about the situation and if you do please do not repeat your ladder comments becasue thats not how it works but i would love to hear it.
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Posted 30 November 2005 - 09:57 AM

QUOTE (triple3s @ Nov 29 2005, 11:09 PM)
well i guess last year when he dominated for 18 games he didn't have the strength to push back blockers either? yeah right. you guys are so funny. how the hell does D-rob have the strength to dominate last year and this year he can't push anyone back? it must be his age right. he's nearing the 30 mark(sarcasm). whateva. D-rob is a good player. he needs other people around him but he's still a good player.


"good player" That is the key, when you away two number one picks to acquire this guy, he should be GREAT by this time, not good.

Furthermore, it was the JETS that were telling us how GREAT he was last year, and how he should be considered for the pro bowl. Just another way to justify Bradway's poor drafting. And that is not to say he is not a good player with potential; because he is. I think the Jets have exaggerated his play so far.
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