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MikeGangGree... Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:09 AM) good
MikeGangGree... Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:09 AM) Best day of the week is the day after a Jets Win!
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:12 AM) Rob you think the offense started off ugly? we scored on our first 4 drives, and controlled the ball 80% of the time the first half. We didn't even punt until the 2nd half
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:21 AM) I meant the hits on Fitz at on the first Drive or two with the fumbles and almost fumbles....The Tom Brady rule where balls that used to be fumbles are incomplete. We recovered the ball on all but one but it was ruled incomplete
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:26 AM) The offensive line stepped off after Hughes got hurt for however long he was out. I don't blame J. Marsh for that fumble because that was just a hell of a play. Imo Fitz had a career best game even with only 1 td passing. Never seen him so accurate. So yeah when I meant ugly I meant dline penetration and the 1st two drives ending up in fieldgoals
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:30 AM) But 31 points given up passing by the defense passing was bad. It wasn't just 2 long bombs and that defensive touchdown leading to 21 points. 3q1 against a bad team was terrible for the defense. Without the offense putting up 37 the Jets,would have lost so yeah I consider it an ugly start on both ends
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:32 AM) I'm glad like everyone else that the Jets won. Especially with getting with by the Bills multiple times it was nice revenge.
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:34 AM) Just saying that the Bills look like a bad team this year and the Jets have to face a lot of teams that are probably playoff bound again so yes there is a lot of concern
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 11:39 AM) fitz look good and lets not forget the 50+ yarder to decker that was called back on a BS holding penalty. plus if you rewatch it, the jets d-line was getting held like crazy and never got calls. I seen McLendon, williams, and wilk all complaining about it
azjetfan Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:32 PM) I think the game plan for the D was to keep Taylor in the pocker
azjetfan Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:33 PM) They didn't want him running around when they only rushed 3-4 guts
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:37 PM) bills fired their OC today after the loss yesterday lol
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:38 PM) yeah we didn't really rush, we just tried to keep contain on the outside and collapse the middle
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:38 PM) on the salas TD, one of our LBers went for the sack and broke contain and pryor got away and made the play
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:39 PM) when we did rush which was rare, we had a spy
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 11:11 PM) As far as the Bills firing the oc I'm not sure I agree with it with Watkins having major foot problem with a steel rod in his surgically repaired foot but I dont follow the Bills so cant really say. I do think they need to get rid of Rob Ryan though. He had a decent year with the Browns then was terrible with the Cowboys and Saints. He isn't half the DC that Rex is. I still think Rex can be a good head coach withe the right coaches and roster but Rob Ryan isn't the answer. But if Rex wants to ruin his chance of staying a head coach by keeping his brother on the coaching staff like he ruined his head coaching job keeping Sanchez as a starter then that's his stupidity
ganggreen2003 Icon : (17 September 2016 - 12:20 AM) The A Football Life of Curtis Martin is a MUST WATCH!!!!
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (17 September 2016 - 02:03 PM) They got rid of their OC after their defense was ripped apart
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:03 PM) Well hell that makes even less sense. The defense gets ripped apart so let's get rid of the oc instead of the dc.they didn't have much of a run game but a lot of passes yards. If they wanted to blame anyone for nearly 40 points against them it was their defense. But guess Rex used the ocean as the scale goat instead of his brother
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:04 PM) Oc not ocean. Damn Auto correct on phone
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:04 PM) And scape goatee
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:05 PM) Lol still can't get it right
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:13 PM) Not sure about anyone else but I'm extremely interested in the 49r/ Panther game at 1pm. Just want to see if the 49rs are actually good this year or if the Rams have become one of the worst teams in the league this year
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:16 PM) If the Rams have regressed that much then all the Todd Gurley owners in fantasy will likely have low points from him all year. Might even be worth trying to trade him early if they look just as bad this week before his stock drops
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:26 PM) I drafted him last year and also had David Johnson, Chris Johnson, Roetlesburger, Romo, Palmer, Barnage,, .....my whole team was stacked with starters. Entire team wasc stacked with starters. Even bench. Made tge Superbowl but did have a rough start at behinning of season when Romo and Roethlisberger wentvdown at the start of season also lost amazing starting rb and wr all within the 1st 4 games but worked the waivers really well..shut out until garbage time by a team that was terrible last year
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:28 PM) Last part meant Rams were shut out entire game even in garbage time against 49r backups
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:29 PM) Sorry about typos. Hard to type on small phone screen
MikeGangGree... Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:00 PM) This is why I'm glad Rex is gone. Fire the OC after the D gives up 500 yards??
MikeGangGree... Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:01 PM) UPDATE THE UPDATE!!!!
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:25 PM) Yep Rex isn't a bad coach but he needs to have all player and coach decisions as far as firing and hiring taken out of his hands. His problem is he doesn't know to separate the job from loyalty to players and is unable to let underperforming players go
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:27 PM) He was great as a DC because he wasn't in charge of roster and firing decisions. He will never make it as a good head coach until he can get rid of loyalty and run a team like any boss runs a business.
azjetfan Icon : (17 September 2016 - 07:16 PM) I loved Rex as a person. But he is severely handicapped in his skill set as a HC. He has not adapted and will not adapt. That's why he isn't here and will be fired from Buffalo.
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:05 AM) It's all guessing and I will like likely stick with my two starters that are injured and playing but D.Thomas looks like he is still in a lot of pain and Stewart is still in the locker room getting ankle treatment so both could be on a snap count
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:06 AM) I have good wr's on bench and good rb's on bench but they have bad matchups. Do t trust Diggs against Greenbay or Doug Martin against Arizona both on bench
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:08 AM) If I made changes I have Crabtree for Oakland Aagainst Atlanta and Abdullah for Detroit against 49rs as my two options I would choose if I made any changes
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:10 AM) Actually have it backwards with my running back teams
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:12 AM) Detroit vs Titans who I believe has a legit defense. Panthers have a better team but the ankle for Stewart and both the Titans and 49rs are ranked #1 against the run. Not a believer in the 49rs defensesthough
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:13 AM) Believe the Rams oline just sucks
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:15 AM) Abdullah splits carries but he did get 17 last week and also catches a lot of passes and has a better qb so could exploit the Titans still
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:16 AM) Will most likely do my own thing anyway just looking for input from those that actually study in fantasy if anyone feels like offering their opinions. If not it's cool too. Thanks
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:18 AM) If not for the injuries to the two players I'd keep them in for sure but all it takes for Thomas is a hit to the hip and a tackle by the ankle for Stewart if they aren't on a snap count already or if pain doesn't get to them.
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 12:45 PM) Well looks like leaving in Stewart was,a,bad move in locker room
MikeGangGree... Icon : (18 September 2016 - 04:54 PM) Good news! Dolphins suck
santana Icon : (19 September 2016 - 08:08 AM) Thanks professor
Jetsfan115 Icon : (23 September 2016 - 03:55 PM) updated roster. FB howsare released, TE bowman added to roster
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#21 User is offline   penningtonpays Icon

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Posted 04 October 2005 - 10:42 PM

yea nugent may have been a mistake

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Posted 05 October 2005 - 12:02 AM

QUOTE (penningtonpays @ Oct 4 2005, 10:17 PM)
yea nugent may have been a mistake


Yeah, we should have different coaches and 11 different starters on offense and defense too...


Oh, and that punter shouldn't be here...




And Green and White? What's up with that?
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Posted 05 October 2005 - 12:24 AM

O-line problems....


Man... and with our front four that = disaster for your QB.

I'd actually feel better if Brooks started. Vinny has an axe to grind with us and always had a special touch on the deep ball. I remember what you guys did to the Fins that MNF years back...

That said... your O-line better come prepared or it's going to be a loooooooong day. Our D is the best in the league. Some say it's as good if not better than our SB defense. The ONLY weak link is Bolden. If Vinny gets time to throw at him, we'll have problems.
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Posted 05 October 2005 - 09:03 AM

you won't feel that way about nugent when he kicks a game winner. hey anyone notice he always gives graham a pound before kicking?
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Posted 05 October 2005 - 03:56 PM

i'll still feel that way. first off i never wanted him and i believe i had posted how bad our draft was when it happend. second of all the guy can't get a touch back for his life. he's suppose to have a powerful leg but he can't get a touch back. he won't be kicking any 50 yarders. dont' slip on a thirty yarder or kick the ball out of bounds. then we'll talk about 50 yarders. get a touch back once in a while. for second round pick and our first pick in the draft. that's disappoiting andi knew that from teh gate
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Posted 05 October 2005 - 04:14 PM

He doesn’t get touchbacks cause stupid westhoff makes him directional kick
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Posted 05 October 2005 - 09:41 PM

QUOTE (Jetsfan115 @ Oct 5 2005, 04:49 PM)
He doesn’t get touchbacks cause stupid westhoff makes him directional kick

first off westhoff is a great special teams coach. he has always done well with our special teams. second of all nugent obviously doesn't have the leg for touchbacks. even if you claim that westhoff makes him directional kick(which we have no proof of. nugent probably can't even control his own directions), you honestly think a special teams coach would tell someone who CAN kick touchbacks NOT to kick touchbacks. and to directional kick and let the opposing team return it. lets be serious.
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Posted 05 October 2005 - 09:43 PM

Oh and just for the record, I saw Nugget kick a few right down the middle of the field that landed at about the 10.
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Posted 05 October 2005 - 09:48 PM

Be lucky you don't have Martin Gramatica..... biggrin.gif

Glad we don't either........ yahoo.gif
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Posted 06 October 2005 - 12:24 AM

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Be lucky you don't have Martin Gramatica..... biggrin.gif

Glad we don't either........ yahoo.gif

Amen... Automattica became Wuss-attica really fast!

Can you say Carolina game? angry.gif
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Posted 06 October 2005 - 08:49 AM

QUOTE (triple3s @ Oct 5 2005, 08:16 PM)
first off westhoff is a great special teams coach. he has always done well with our special teams. second of all nugent obviously doesn't have the leg for touchbacks. even if you claim that westhoff makes him directional kick(which we have no proof of. nugent probably can't even control his own directions), you honestly think a special teams coach would tell someone who CAN kick touchbacks NOT to kick touchbacks. and to directional kick and let the opposing team return it. lets be serious.


Do u even watch the games? how can u say that I say that and have no proof of. Watch the game. When do u ever see him kick to the middle. its always on one side. And what make shim such a good coach? Cause everyone says he is? When was the last time we had a top special teams unit. Not since game 1 of 02 when mortan ran 2 back. I know cochery ran one back last year but it was a fluke. Nobody else has done anything really. Wake up and see our special teams are average. westhoff should get the boot for having all these years and still not putting a playmaking unit on the field. And yes he does tell him to kick it to one side simply cause it takes away lanes for the returner.
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Posted 06 October 2005 - 10:04 AM

I am sorry, but it isn't that simple. The O-line has been bad, but it is our team's fault...plain and simple. Every area is hurting. WR's dropping balls, Dinger not going downfield on a hobbled Ed Reed, granted the O-line stems all the way down, but they can be motivated as well. I must add that our "D" has kept us in this thing.
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Posted 06 October 2005 - 10:10 AM

The defense is playing fine. The problem is the o-line they aren’t giving time in tha pass game. They allow tooo many sacks and aren’t opening up holes.
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Posted 06 October 2005 - 10:17 AM

QUOTE (Jetsfan115 @ Oct 6 2005, 11:45 AM)
The defense is playing fine. The problem is the o-line they aren’t giving time in tha pass game. They allow tooo many sacks and aren’t opening up holes.

::sniff:: ::sniff:: what's that smell?

Ahhh fear. Vinny's afraid.

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(Take that in jest please... I love Vinny, but fear for his health. Your O-line isn't strong enough IMO to stop Booger, SIm, Hov', and Spires.)
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Posted 06 October 2005 - 10:21 AM

Vinny will be fine. He’ll play a lot out of the shotgun. So he’ll have time. Expect a lot of quick slants and WR screens to make the d-line honost tehn watch out for the bomb. I also think we’ll see a flea flicker from the jets. vinnys got the arm for it no doubt. He might be 42 but can throw a ball further then most of the QBs in the league
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Posted 06 October 2005 - 10:30 AM

Blanda took the Raiders to the Championship Game in '85!

HE WAS 43!!
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Posted 06 October 2005 - 10:34 AM

QUOTE (Jetsfan115 @ Oct 6 2005, 11:56 AM)
Vinny will be fine. He’ll play a lot out of the shotgun. So he’ll have time. Expect a lot of quick slants and WR screens to make the d-line honost tehn watch out for the bomb. I also think we’ll see a flea flicker from the jets. vinnys got the arm for it no doubt. He might be 42 but can throw a ball further then most of the QBs in the league


Can he throw that far from the prone position? biggrin.gif
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Posted 06 October 2005 - 10:44 AM

I wouldn’t talk. Griese is gonna be on his back more then a cheap hooker. Lol

I’m gonna move this to the smackdown forum now because that’s what it has become

Oh and don’t even try to use your WRs. Caus ethey couldn’t catch crabs from a 5 dolla hooker let along a football.


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Posted 06 October 2005 - 04:05 PM

QUOTE (Jetsfan115 @ Oct 6 2005, 09:24 AM)
And yes he does tell him to kick it to one side simply cause it takes away lanes for the returner.


why would u directional kick if you can get touchbacks. to take away lanes?? does that make any sense to you??? HINT HINT. IF YOU TOUCHBACK THERE ARE NO LANES!!! so of course nugent doesn't have the leg. duh. that's why you tell him to kick directionally cuz he doesn't have the leg. it's so obvious
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Posted 06 October 2005 - 04:11 PM

QUOTE (triple3s @ Oct 6 2005, 02:40 PM)
why would u directional kick if you can get touchbacks. to take away lanes?? does that make any sense to you??? HINT HINT. IF YOU TOUCHBACK THERE ARE NO LANES!!! so of course nugent doesn't have the leg. duh. that's why you tell him to kick directionally cuz he doesn't have the leg. it's so obvious


Wow once again u make no sense. Vinny has an arm and can bomb it all day. does that mean that u let him? NO! of course it makes sense. Look lets say westhoff says kick it. lets say nugent kicks it 1 yard deep in the end zone. The guy is gonna run it out and will have all types of room to do it. if he dierectional kicks it to th 5 yard line he’ll gaet tackled earlier so it more then makes up for the yardage. Westhoff is either an idiot or doesn’t have confidence in his unit to cover the whole field. If u watch nugents video in collge he kicks them through the endzone. Its only a 5 yard difference in the NFL I believe so he can kick it 5 yards deep. Remember the out of bounds kicks? Its cause he was trying to directional kick it EVEN WESTHHOFF SAID SO!
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