[Swissle]

I know this is off topic, but I cant stand it. Does anybody else feel that James Dolan and Isiah Thomas ruined the Knicks?

[bigrob142]

yea they're bums. i would so much rather get rid of stephon. did u hear about the strike? a bunch of knick fans are gunna walk from the espn zone in times square to MSG on the day of the NBA draft to protest Dolan's ownership of the knicks. They want him to sell the team.

[jets0n]

My dad has been blatantly fighting the losing battle about how horrible IT really is. Dolan is a moron who cares only about the money in his pocket... he should sell the team. IT is probably the worst GM in the NBA trading away their future for a bunch of shitty players, Gayphon Marbury included. He's a loser with an unjustified attitude problem.

Bottom line, IT is now coaching as well as GM and whatever other title he's given himself. Prepare for another shitty season and a LONG LONG LONG road back. They made all the wrong moves getting rid of Gundy and they've never recovered since.

The funny thing is David Stern recommended that Dolan fire IT and hire a man he was recommending b/c as the commish, as horrible as he has been at it, he's seen all the stupid things IT has done. You know what Dolan's response was? "How dare he tell me how to run my franchise." He's a douche and the Knicks are gonna be losers for a long time, it's unfortunate but true.

[green_blood]

time for a 3-79 season! HOORAY BEER!

[ganggreen_ewok]

I like how Marbury called himself a better point guard than Jason Kidd. Theres one clue about how ridiculous Marbury is. Oh, wait its the knicks hahahaha

[blk_orion]

I like how Marbury called himself a better point guard than Jason Kidd. Theres one clue about how ridiculous Marbury is. Oh, wait its the knicks hahahaha

When did starbury say he was better?...I like him from the time i seen him played for lincoln high and if I had to pick who is staying between larry and marbury, obviously it's larry. Marbury and IT would've been booted off along time ago.

[oracle401]

I know this is off topic, but I cant stand it. Does anybody else feel that James Dolan and Isiah Thomas ruined the Knicks?

Yes I do. They hired Larry Brown to coach a team that he didn't think could go anywhere and now they've fired him for it. The only good thing that will come of this is that Isiah will get nothing but heat as a headcoach and will probably be fired after next season.

[S-Dubb]

I like how Marbury called himself a better point guard than Jason Kidd. Theres one clue about how ridiculous Marbury is. Oh, wait its the knicks hahahaha

Becareful!!

[Swissle]

Yea this is just a huge f***ing mess. I cant stand that Larry Brown isnt going to get a legitimate shot to coach the knicks. Dolan needs to sell the team and Isiah needs to get the f*** out of NY, its rediculous. All he has done is run the Knicks into the ground....Eddie Curry for a #2 overall pick...hmmm...what a bargain for a fat ass who is soft on D.

[SignalZero]

Once we gave away our #1 pick in this years draft, I lost all hope for this team.

[blk_orion]

Yea this is just a huge f***ing mess. I cant stand that Larry Brown is going to get a legitimate shot to coach the knicks. Dolan needs to sell the team and Isiah needs to get the f*** out of NY, its rediculous. All he has done is run the Knicks into the ground....Eddie Curry for a #2 overall pick...hmmm...what a bargain for a fat ass who is soft on D.

get it right next time.

[Long Time Jet Fan]

I was checking in to post this very same topic. Here are the facts as we know them:

1. Knicks have the highest payroll in the NBA.
2. Knicks hire a coach for five years at $50M a year.
3. Knicks trade their #1 pick to get an okay young center, and said pick turns out to be #2 in the draft.
4. Knicks finish with the second worst record in the NBA.
5. Knicks have perhaps the most unbalanced team in the NBA.
6. Knicks fire a coach with four years left on his contract costing the organization $40M.

So let's assume you have a job. You spend more money than anyone doing your job. All that money gets you the second worst product of anyone doing your job. You pay someone $10M, which contributes to you having the second worst product. You then piss away $40M. And what does this get you?

Why a promotion of course! This has got to be one of the most insane things I've ever seen in Sports. What a joke the Knicks have become. They need to

[gmany3k]

Thought it would be good to post this article so we have more info in the post.

Knicks fire Larry Brown
BY GREG LOGAN
Newsday Staff Correspondent

June 22, 2006, 11:46 AM EDT


Knicks owner James Dolan finally put an end to the Larry Brown era after just one ill-fated season when he fired the 65-year-old Hall of Fame coach for cause Thursday morning at the team's training facility. Claiming they owe Brown none of the remaining $40 million on his contract because he violated club policy, the Knicks are calling upon NBA commissioner David Stern to arbitrate the dispute.

The Knicks signed Brown to a five-year deal worth $50 million last July, but after a controversial season in which the Knicks went 23-59 to tie the franchise record for losses in a single season, reports surfaced more than five weeks ago that Dolan wanted to buy out Brown's contract. Team president Isiah Thomas will replace Brown on the bench, it was announced yesterday in a press release, but there was no news conference.

In a statement, Dolan said of Brown: "We hired him last summer with the expectation that he would be with the Knicks for a long time. Sometimes decisions work, and sometimes they don't. Despite the best intentions of everyone involved, this current structure did not work for us last season, and I did not think it was going to improve next season."

Thomas also released a statement in which he said: "No one in our organization is happy with last season, and we all accept responsibility for our performance. Today begins the 2006-07 season for the Knicks, and I strongly believe we are on the right track to take major steps in our rebuilding process to achieve our goal of being one of the premier teams in the NBA. Larry Brown is a great coach, but for various reasons, bringing him to the Knicks did not turn out the way we hoped."

Brown left the training complex around 9:45 a.m. and was not immediately available for comment.

This marks the first time in Brown's storied 34-year coaching career in the NBA, ABA and college that he failed to produce at least one winning season during his tenure and to leave a team in better shape than when he took over. When Brown asked Thomas to make a major roster changes after the season, Thomas resisted, saying the cost would be prohibitive for a team with a $125 million payroll that is the highest in the league by far.

Brown asked for a meeting with Dolan, who promised last summer to make the changes necessary to give the coach the players he wanted. But the owner was upset with Brown for, in his view, endorsing trades for Jalen Rose and Steve Francis and then quickly souring on them. He also was angry with Brown's constant criticism of the roster, which he felt devalued the Knicks' players on the open market.

Dolan declined to meet with Brown for the past five weeks, and the organization treated him like a pariah, forcing him to run workouts for college draft prospects but otherwise ignoring him. When Thomas and Brown were together at the recent NBA pre-draft camp, they didn't speak to each other at all.

A person familiar with details of Brown's firing yesterday said Dolan was prepared to retain Brown if he liked what he heard and if Brown agreed to abide by certain restrictions. But the meeting went badly, and the decision was made to let Brown go.

Citing a clause in Brown's contract that requires him to follow club policy, the Knicks will seek arbitration with Stern. They believe he acted beyond the perameters of his coaching position in attempting to make trades and also violated media policy by talking to reporters outside the presence of a team public relations person.

Brown's Woodmere-based agent Joe Glass repeatedly said there would be no buyout negotiations, meaning the Knicks would have to fire Brown and pay him the remaining $40 million. Last summer, Brown received $7 million of his remaining $21 million from Detroit even though the Pistons knew he was in line for a richer contract with the Knicks.

Considering the Knicks paid forward Shandon Anderson $19 million of the remaining $22 million on his deal when they bought him out two years ago, it's hard to imagine Brown walking away with much less than he's owed.

[NYJBlueHen]

My dad has been blatantly fighting the losing battle about how horrible IT really is. Dolan is a moron who cares only about the money in his pocket... he should sell the team. IT is probably the worst GM in the NBA trading away their future for a bunch of shitty players, Gayphon Marbury included. He's a loser with an unjustified attitude problem.

Bottom line, IT is now coaching as well as GM and whatever other title he's given himself. Prepare for another shitty season and a LONG LONG LONG road back. They made all the wrong moves getting rid of Gundy and they've never recovered since.

The funny thing is David Stern recommended that Dolan fire IT and hire a man he was recommending b/c as the commish, as horrible as he has been at it, he's seen all the stupid things IT has done. You know what Dolan's response was? "How dare he tell me how to run my franchise." He's a douche and the Knicks are gonna be losers for a long time, it's unfortunate but true.

Wait did you say Stern is a horrible commish? Maybe I read that wrong.

[jets0n]

Wait did you say Stern is a horrible commish? Maybe I read that wrong.

No, you read it right... Stern sucks. He's almost as bad as Selig. Of course that's just my humble opinion.... not so humble at times though.

[Long Time Jet Fan]

hahaha Good luck trying to get off the hook for the $40M. What idiots.

[S-Dubb]

6. Knicks fire a coach with four years left on his contract costing the organization $40M.

This just makes me sick to my stomache. I'm so emabarassed. The Knicks F.O is like Romper room. It's so humiliating

[NYJBlueHen]

Wow I'm shocked anyone that follows the sport thinks that, but opinions are opinions. I do at least agree Selig is bad.

[Swissle]

Na Stern is alright, he runs a smooth ship. I meant to say Larry Brown ISNT getting a legit shot @ the knicks. Isiah is just pissed cause Larry Brown implied that he is a shitty GM, which he is. Now he gets to be a shitty coach. Fire Isiah, then assassinate dolan...hes a dickhead, and his band sucks.

[ganggreen_ewok]

When did starbury say he was better?...I like him from the time i seen him played for lincoln high and if I had to pick who is staying between larry and marbury, obviously it's larry. Marbury and IT would've been booted off along time ago.

It was a big brouhaha on the Steven A. show, I forget the name. Steven A asked Stephon Marbury who was a better point guard him or Kidd, and Marbury said himself because he is bigger which he isn't, stronger, which he isn't, faster which even after two knee surgeries he isn't, and a better passer. Yes he said he was a more prolific passer. The only thing Marbury has on Kidd is the outside jumper and only by a little bit. So, the next day or so Kidd came on the Steven A. show and reputed Marbury and basically called him an idiot. I got a great laugh out of it.







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