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azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 01:10 PM) Ryan is not a Bozo he is a cartoon character.
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azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 03:43 PM) I think we need to fire more people. Like Justin Beiber
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 04:22 PM) Kareem Jackson is a decent player, I would rather go elsewhere for CB though> He has been a streaky player, some bad seasons some good
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:23 PM) THE KNICKS
Chaos Icon : (Yesterday, 06:43 PM) @AdamSchefter: Filed to ESPN: Bills have notified LB Kiko Alonso he is going to be traded to Philadelphia for RB LeSean McCoy. Trade official next week.
Chaos Icon : (Yesterday, 06:43 PM) WOW. Rex is gearing up for ground and pound.
Chaos Icon : (Yesterday, 06:44 PM) Jets can sign Spiller now but they're going to need a new LB. Rex is gunning for David Harris.
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Yesterday, 07:44 PM) Jets should trade Harris to Minnesota for Minnesota for AP
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ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 07:45 PM) Damn they got Shady
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 07:45 PM) Do NOT give up Ivory
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 07:45 PM) Powell ok Ivory HELL NO
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 07:50 PM) Well that definitely opens the door for CJ Spiller to the JETS now that the Jills got Shady
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 05:12 AM) Spiller is a joke. 99 % of the time he gets tackled for a loss or a 1 or 2 yard gain maximum. He breaks a run here and there. he had one good year in his whole career. their is a reason he is a backup and not the starter. I suggest you guys that believe Spiller has anything to offer go through the play by play game logs. I did and he is horrendous.
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 05:14 AM) Spiller cannot break a tackle period. I broke down last years game logs of his runs in a thread last year. He isn't even a pass catching rb. Fred Jackson catches most of the running back passes.
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 05:20 AM) Unless Spiller comes tremendously cheap no thank you. Wouldn't pay more than a one year deal worth 1 million at most. All he has is speed. Not even on Sproles level. His stats are inflated. For instance he has 10 runs in a game and 9 of them are losses are or 1-2 yard runs. Then he breaks one on the outside for 40-70 yards. Not reliable at all. Even when he break one he is guaranteed a td
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 05:21 AM) Even in his 1200 yard rushing year he only had 6 tds rushing and 2 receiving
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 05:23 AM) Spiller is only valuable as a special teams player. Period By year 2010 ) tds rshng 1 rcvng 283 yards rshng
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 05:31 AM) meant 0 tds rushing in 2010, 2011 4 tds 561 yards rushing 2tds receiving, 2012 6tds 1244 rushing 2 tds receiving, 2013 2tds 933 yards rushing 0tds receiving, 2014 0tds 300 yards rushing 1td receiving.
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 05:41 AM) His stats look decent on paper but if you actually go through the game logs of his career like I did his stats are extremely inflated. For instance one game last year he had 10 attempts for 8 yards another 4 attempts for -4 yards, another 6 attempts for 19 yards, another 10 attempts for 25 yards.Another game he had 12 games for 69 yards but 47 of it was on one play. Point is he sucks as a running back. Who wants a rb that gets stopped 99% of the time and breaks one play fir a long run. We need reliable backs not a slim chance of him breaking one
santana Icon : (Today, 08:06 AM) "NFL released its first 2015 League Year cap report to teams. Teams w/most room: 1) Jaguars $64.058M; 2) Jets $52.901; 3) Raiders $52.598M."
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santana Icon : (Today, 08:07 AM) WE DID IT!
santana Icon : (Today, 08:07 AM) thnx idzik
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Today, 08:09 AM) RE-HIRE IDZIK
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Today, 08:10 AM) Well in all fairness, when I think about the Jets I do think about number two
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 08:30 AM) FIRE MACCAGNAN
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 08:30 AM) The Jaguars hired John Idzik for his expertise in contract negotiating
Chaos Icon : (Today, 08:36 AM) ppl are going to get paid this offseason.
Chaos Icon : (Today, 08:36 AM) so many teams have space
Chaos Icon : (Today, 08:39 AM) eagles have 48M in cap space. Chip is going to go HAM this offseason.
Chaos Icon : (Today, 12:35 PM) @RapSheet: The #Bills have traded for Matt Cassel, the team announced.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Today, 12:43 PM) rex is gearing up his team
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Today, 12:43 PM) a QB that won't turn it over. 2 stud Rbs for ground and pound and will now start building his defense
azjetfan Icon : (Today, 01:49 PM) McCoys agent said the trade is not final and he hinted that he may not be willing to play there.
Chaos Icon : (Today, 04:41 PM) @KristianRDyer: Source: If Marcus Mariota is at No. 6, Eagles will make trade with #Jets http://www.metro.us/...-mCQODxZ1xjBVA/ … via @metronewyork #NYJets
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 05:18 PM) Jets bringing in Kendall Langford and CHris Canty for visits
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Posted 22 June 2005 - 10:42 AM

QUOTE (Jetsfan115 @ Jun 22 2005, 02:30 PM)
the franchise in 2k5 was way better. 2K can't make games anymore because maden paid big time money to buy out the NFL license. it had nothing to do with quality. donald trump could have bought it and made his own game and madden would be no more


In the bold print, thanks for the joke, I really did need a laugh. Thanks. There is no way 2K has a better franchise then Madden. 2K has no chance of wining in that category, not a shot. Donald Trump would not buy a football game, lol. Madden is still better then 2kK, for sure. There is only one game that is, and ever was better then EA Sports Madden, and thats Tecmo Superbowl, I am sure everyone would agree with me on that one.
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Posted 22 June 2005 - 11:29 AM

no way the madden mode was so stupid the OXM made fun of it along with other websites. He said he benched vick to se what would happen and screwed up his whole franchise because vick demanded to be traded and it killed his cap. it also said fabini wanted like 8 mil a year from him then signed with another team for 2. 2K5 gave features like they talked about rookies during the season then you have to go to the combine and scout players which makes it more realistic then gettting a projected rating like madden gives. Also it allows you to set up meeting and workouts and filter them to a postion to improve them before a gaem for instace you can really work your Cbs hard befor a game with the rams and boost them up a few points for the week but if you overwork them they'll lose a few points. i bet u never even pplayed 2k5 to think that. madden knew it was better that why they bought out the competition. every year 2k series cut more and more into the madden sales
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Posted 22 June 2005 - 11:45 AM

QUOTE (Jetsfan115 @ Jun 22 2005, 05:04 PM)
no way the madden mode was so stupid the OXM made fun of it along with other websites. He said he benched vick to se what would happen and screwed up his whole franchise because vick demanded to be traded and it killed his cap. it also said fabini wanted like 8 mil a year from him then signed with another team for 2. 2K5 gave features like they talked about rookies during the season then you have to go to the combine and scout players which makes it more realistic then gettting a projected rating like madden gives. Also it allows you to set up meeting and workouts and filter them to a postion to improve them before a gaem for instace you can really work your Cbs hard befor a game with the rams and boost them up a few points for the week but if you overwork them they'll lose a few points. i bet u never even pplayed 2k5 to think that. madden knew it was better that why they bought out the competition. every year 2k series cut more and more into the madden sales


Oh yeah and what were the rookies names in the ESPN game? All these names that are NOT in college football. In Madden all you have to do is put them into it. I know the players have no names but, I know someone who could get me them all. Then I get all these real players, while 2k gets all these fake players. Now... what would you rather have? real or fake? Obviously real would have to be the choice. Combine, and stuff does not make a game more realistic, you are just sayinh you'd rather sim a game in franchise, then play it. Yeah, and remind me how is 2k gonna do this year in cutting Madden's sales?
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Posted 22 June 2005 - 12:13 PM

You can’t rate real college players of akili smith and tim couch would be 90+. You can’t tell how the’ll do in the NFL. Plus the fact that the players get names and faces is better then a number and a blacked out face with a bogus rating. I used to like madden since 93 on sega genisys but in 2k3 I though they were both even games then after 2k4 I kicked madden out the door and moved on. Until now.
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Posted 22 June 2005 - 12:31 PM

QUOTE (Jetsfan115 @ Jun 22 2005, 05:48 PM)
You can’t rate real college players of akili smith and tim couch would be 90+. You can’t tell how the’ll do in the NFL. Plus the fact that the players get names and faces is better then a number and a blacked out face with a bogus rating. I used to like madden since 93 on sega genisys but in 2k3 I though they were both even games then after 2k4 I kicked madden out the door and moved on. Until now.


Yeah, and now your gonna have to buy Madden, if you want a real football game, so face the facts... Madden wins...
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Posted 22 June 2005 - 12:36 PM

So they bought a fan base whats your point. Real gamers know whats up. Money doesn’t make u the best and never will.
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Posted 22 June 2005 - 12:40 PM

QUOTE (Jetsfan115 @ Jun 22 2005, 06:11 PM)
So they bought a fan base whats your point. Real gamers know whats up. Money doesn’t make u the best and never will.


Unless the games name is Madden, and has been on top of the world of Football gaming since the early 90's. Madden has as much as it's fans because it has been here for along time, and it was like the only football game going around, other then gameday, and well gameday has always sucked, except for '98.

Also, I like this little video game discussion we are having...
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Posted 22 June 2005 - 01:05 PM

That’s exactly why. I agree with you 100% madden was good ( I loved madden 96 for PS1, its one of my all time favs) but since 2002 its kinda sucked. I have madden 03 and 04 on my modded xbox and they don’t compare to the 2k series. 2K5 is the best football game of all time. I also loved NFL football for the super Nintendo. And the mutant league one was fun for sega. You could actually bribe the ref. anyway madden built a fan base so its hard for a new guy to step in. its the only reason it sells so much
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Posted 23 June 2005 - 02:09 PM

Not to go back on old topic, but the rosters and rankings for madden aren't finalized until the first depth charts come out in july. The new feature is gonna be a passing cone to make the game more realistic, and it look 10% harder than 05. To go along with the 2k5 argument, so many people say 2k5 is better, from a game standpoint, but if you look at it it really isn't. The graphics suck, and there is only a limited amount of stuff you can do with the rosters. My brother, ewokentourage, likes 2k5 but he's dumb

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Posted 23 June 2005 - 02:31 PM

Actually u can do a lot more with the rosters and every single game magazine agrees that the graphics are way better (at least on xbox they are). 2K5 was better in every way except madden had better training mode
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Posted 24 June 2005 - 08:19 PM

I played 2k5 (either 02 or 03), and I wasn't too impressed.

THe big thing for me is game physics. In most cases, the "extras" don't even do much. I owned the last Madden, and let me throw out some examples:

1-the Radio
This was really cool, at first. But after a season or so I had heard everything the game had to say and so was forced to listen to it over and over and over.

2-Madden challenge
THis is the worst. If I want to play Blitz, and kick a 90 yard FG or have unlimited pass range, I'll play Blitz.

3-Trades
I was never ONCE offered a trade for players. If I had players on the block, I didn't get offered a trade. I mean literally, never. THe closest thing was in the draft, when I would be offered absurd pick for pick trades (ex: their 2nd and 5th for my 1st).

4-scouting
I thought it was really lame to barely be able to scout anyone. You get three wounds of scouting, where you can scout ten players in each round. TO get any really good info, you have to scout someone in every round, and only scouting someone once gives yo ualmost nothing. Basically, you can scout 10 guys. That is extremly lame.

I could probably come up with more, but I want to get to my real grip abotu football games...

THE PHYSICS SUCK!!!

I expect the game to be harder on the highest levels, but I wish their was one pure middle level game with really good physics. As it stands (and I have owned 2 of the last 3 Maddens), I have CBs with 4 foot verts knocking perfectly thrown balls out of the air, guys with speed in the high 70s catching up to a guy with 95+, or Emmit Smith breaking...SEVEN tackles in one play!*

I have yet to play a football game that has as good of physics as most Basketball, Baseball, or Hockey games. Usually, I think they are really poor, due to the above examples and many more like them. Is Madden the truest football game now? Yes. Is it likely to be representative of the real game? I doubt it.


*(this was an '03 game) Emmit broke through the line, knocking down BOTH my DTs. THen he stiff armed a LB, and broke the tackle of another one. Just then he spun, knocking over a LB (maybe a DB) from behind and a CB coming in front. He had a clear path now, and took off downfield, but another DB came in and tried to tackle him from behind. He hit him, but Emmit highstepped and the DB fell down.

All in all he broke seven tackles, and ran in for a 50ish yard TD. Having already had this sort of thing happen several times, I packed up the game and returned it...di I mention that this happened on the "normal" setting?
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Posted 27 June 2005 - 08:58 AM

the physics ion 2k3 had problems but by 2k5 it was completey fixed. as far as the cone. the best passing feature was total control passing in NFL fever 2004. the game sucked but the passing was really cool. you controlled a target with the right thumbstick then used the right trigger to throw it so you through to a spot. anyway back on topic madden has the worst physics evey. i scored a TD by picking up the ball off my friends back in the endzone? plus a deep post to stallworth will burn u all the time. all they care about in madden is speed. and the DBs jump 10fit in the air
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