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MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 08:57 AM) GET RIVERS
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 08:59 AM) It's going to cost us 6 because we are going to have to outbid a bunch of teams
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:52 AM) He is a good QB and I would love to have him. However IMO our 6 is not good value for us. Not to mention if he hates the idea of LA what is he going to think of NY? Contract situation would have to be worked out prior to trade as well. Extreme long shot to land Rivers. My money says we are more likely to land Brees.
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:53 AM) which is still a very long shot
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:46 AM) he may just hate ownership. LT's comments yesterday was interesting.
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) “I personally don’t think so,” Tomlinson said. “I really think this is a situation where Philip Rivers wants to move on. The reason why I think that and the reason why I feel like that is the Chargers have already approached Philip about doing another contract and he declined it. He doesn’t want anything to do with it; he didn’t even want to talk about another contract with the San Diego Chargers. That tells me that he’s thinking about moving on.”

“You never want to trade your franchise quarterback,” Tomlinson said, “that’s never the case. However, in this situation they might have no choice but to do so because I don’t know if Philip [Rivers] wants to be there anymore. I think he’s lost confidence in the organization. He’s seeing a lot of changes going on and the L.A. thing is valid; him not wanting to go to L.A., that is very valid, I can see that. So no, it doesn’t make sense to move on from Philip because he’s a franchise quarterback and he still has three to four very good years left.”
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) missed the LA line. nvm. guess that is a legit concern.
Mr_Jet Icon : (21 April 2015 - 03:57 PM) He doesn't want to play for a franchise based in Los Angeles, but he'd be okay with playing for one based in New York City?
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 04:28 PM) That's the point we have all been making.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:05 PM) Jets vs colts Monday night week2
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:09 PM) Jets open at home against the browns
ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:52 PM) Week 5 Bye after the London Game against the Dolphags
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) Rivers is likely going to Tennessee. Would LOVE to have him here but we likely won't make the trade. I'd easily give this year and next year
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) 's first rounder for him
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 11:03 AM) IMO that's a steep price. I would swap this years first and a conditional 1st next year. Assuming we make the AFC Championship. That would be a 28-32nd pick. Otherwise a second.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:07 PM) Yes 2 1st is a lot
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:10 PM) draft is next week, pumped
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:02 PM) What are thoughts on getting a RB in round 1? McShay's newest mock has us taking Gurley at 6. I don't think we should take him that high, but if we trade down and he's available I'd love to snag him, ACL and all. He's got an unreal skill set that, once healthy, will translate readily to the NFL. We're not getting a QB this year without paying a king's ransom, and unless we pay a ransom for a top guy I say ignore QB. I don't want us to take a Hundley or Petty type in the 2nd or 3rd round when we need other pieces (edge rush, OL)
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (Yesterday, 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (Yesterday, 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (Yesterday, 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
Chaos Icon : (Yesterday, 10:11 AM) @ArifHasanNFL

.@LanceZierlein says on http://sports790.com that Shane Ray will need surgery on foot, 5 months recovery. "Could drop out of first"
Chaos Icon : (Yesterday, 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (Yesterday, 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
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Kerry Rhodes- The Secondary Needs To Hold Up Their End Of The Bargain Erik Boland

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Post icon  Posted 28 November 2008 - 03:49 PM

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Jets' secondary needs to step up against Cutler
BY ERIK BOLAND |[email="erik.boland@newsday.com?subject=Newsday.com%20Article"]erik.boland@newsday.com[/email] November 28, 2008 Kerry Rhodes said he would attack the Jets' defense the same way.

"The way we're stopping the run, I can't complain; why not pass against us?" the Jets safety said. "Teams have to resort to the pass. That's just how it is. We just have to step up on the back end and try to hold up our end of the bargain."

The Jets enter Sunday's home game against the Broncos as the league's third-toughest team to run against, allowing only 78 yards per game. They're coming off a 34-13 victory in Tennessee in which they gave up 45 rushing yards to the then-unbeaten Titans.

But defending the pass has been a different story. The Jets rank 26th against the pass, allowing 239.4 yards per game. The scouting report, from the early part of the season to now, has read about the same: Against the Jets, pass, pass, pass.


Which is what the Broncos do best.

Led by quarterback Jay Cutler, Denver ranks third in the league in total offense (382.5 yards per game), including third in passing yards (273.0).

"They throw the ball a lot. I think it's like 60 percent of the time," cornerback Darrelle Revis said. "We're expecting it and we know it's coming, so we just have to focus up on what we have to do. But we're definitely looking forward to this game. We can get a lot of hands on the ball and try to make plays."

Translation: The Jets think they'll have some chances to pick off Cutler.

The confident third-year quarterback out of Vanderbilt has thrown for 3,036 yards with 19 touchdowns, but also has thrown 12 interceptions this season.

"He's a young guy, so maybe he's a little more brave in what he's doing out there, he'll take some chances," Rhodes said. "He's kind of a young gunslinger anyway, so he comes out, throws the ball around, runs around, trying to make plays. That's the type of player he is, so I think we'll have the opportunity to make plays."

Sounds a bit like Brett Favre. Cutler has been compared to the Jets' quarterback, and his statistics are pretty close to this year's version. Favre enters Sunday's game with 20 touchdown passes and 13 interceptions, though he has thrown only one pick in his last three games.

But Cutler steered clear of that beyond saying he admires Favre. Perhaps he still is mindful of the criticism he took this season when he was quoted as saying that "hands down," he has a stronger arm than Broncos icon John Elway.

"I have a long way to go," Cutler said Wednesday, addressing the Favre comparison. "You're talking about Brett Favre, one of the greatest quarterbacks to ever play the game. He's accomplished a lot throughout his career. I'm just kind of getting started. We'll see. Hopefully, I'm still a starter five to 10 years from now."

Flanking Cutler are two receivers who have helped him emerge this season. The 6-4, 230-pound Brandon Marshall, whom Jets coach Eric Mangini compared to Randy Moss - Revis said he's more like Terrell Owens - leads the Broncos with 67 receptions for 887 yards and four TDs. The speedy Eddie Royal has 58 receptions for 673 yards and four TDs.

"That's a combination where you have physicality on one side [Marshall] and you have speed and shiftiness [Royal] on the other side," Revis said.

Rhodes acknowledged the Jets' struggles defending the pass, though he said the various moving parts at cornerback and safety - other than himself and Revis - have played a role.

"That has a little bit to do with it," Rhodes said. "In the secondary, you have to have a feel for each other. There's times where Darrelle and I will look at each other and know what we want to do. When you have another guy in or a young guy in who's not used to getting those reps with us, it's kind of tough. But I think now as the season's going on, we're kind of figuring out how we want to approach it and how we want to match up with different people. It's starting to get better."

For the Jets to keep rolling, that will have to continue Sunday.

Sunday

Broncos at Jets

4:15 p.m.

TV: Ch. 2,

Radio: WEPN (1050), WABC (770), WRCN (103.9)


Like I said. This game scares me!
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Posted 28 November 2008 - 04:01 PM

QUOTE (S-Dubb @ Nov 28 2008, 08:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Like I said. This game scares me!


I think Rhodes will get an INT in this game - oops sorry Dubb, that's usually your line!
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Posted 28 November 2008 - 05:54 PM

QUOTE (S-Dubb @ Nov 28 2008, 04:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Like I said. This game scares me!


Uh how long did we hold the ball against a solid team that stops the run, runs the ball and doesnt beat itself? 40 min. How long will we hold the ball against a team that does none of that? 45 min? 50 min? all of the game? hah. I'm not worried in the least.
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Posted 28 November 2008 - 06:20 PM

QUOTE (ManginiIsMyFather @ Nov 28 2008, 05:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Uh how long did we hold the ball against a solid team that stops the run, runs the ball and doesnt beat itself? 40 min. How long will we hold the ball against a team that does none of that? 45 min? 50 min? all of the game? hah. I'm not worried in the least.


any give sunday man...problem is...if the Jets players are thinking the way you are...and the Broncos are out determined to prove they can beat the new bandwagon team...it's an easy trap game.

After the jets expended so much energy to beat the Pats and Titans the past 2 weeks...you could easily see them taking this game too lightly.

I doubt it...but it's not like we're playing the lions here.
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Posted 28 November 2008 - 07:46 PM

I'm not the type who thinks that because I feel confident and *beep*y and looking past an opponent that the team I root for is doing the same. Hopefully the Jets learned their lesson from the Raider game.
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Posted 28 November 2008 - 09:18 PM

QUOTE (ManginiIsMyFather @ Nov 28 2008, 05:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Uh how long did we hold the ball against a solid team that stops the run, runs the ball and doesnt beat itself? 40 min. How long will we hold the ball against a team that does none of that? 45 min? 50 min? all of the game? hah. I'm not worried in the least.

I hear you but all good passing teams have given us trouble all year no matter how bad the teams were.Running teams we shut down.Denver is a passing team so that is why we think it is a trap game the Jets could have some trouble with.
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Posted 29 November 2008 - 02:47 AM

Those stats are misleading. Yeah we are 26th against the pass but thats because our defense is playin prevent for half of the game. When the Jets are passed on while playing their main defense, the secondary does pretty well. The other team just starts racking up yards everytime we get into prevent mode.

Im not worried about our secondary
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