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ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:26 AM) The offensive line stepped off after Hughes got hurt for however long he was out. I don't blame J. Marsh for that fumble because that was just a hell of a play. Imo Fitz had a career best game even with only 1 td passing. Never seen him so accurate. So yeah when I meant ugly I meant dline penetration and the 1st two drives ending up in fieldgoals
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:30 AM) But 31 points given up passing by the defense passing was bad. It wasn't just 2 long bombs and that defensive touchdown leading to 21 points. 3q1 against a bad team was terrible for the defense. Without the offense putting up 37 the Jets,would have lost so yeah I consider it an ugly start on both ends
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:32 AM) I'm glad like everyone else that the Jets won. Especially with getting with by the Bills multiple times it was nice revenge.
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:34 AM) Just saying that the Bills look like a bad team this year and the Jets have to face a lot of teams that are probably playoff bound again so yes there is a lot of concern
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 11:39 AM) fitz look good and lets not forget the 50+ yarder to decker that was called back on a BS holding penalty. plus if you rewatch it, the jets d-line was getting held like crazy and never got calls. I seen McLendon, williams, and wilk all complaining about it
azjetfan Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:32 PM) I think the game plan for the D was to keep Taylor in the pocker
azjetfan Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:33 PM) They didn't want him running around when they only rushed 3-4 guts
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:37 PM) bills fired their OC today after the loss yesterday lol
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:38 PM) yeah we didn't really rush, we just tried to keep contain on the outside and collapse the middle
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:38 PM) on the salas TD, one of our LBers went for the sack and broke contain and pryor got away and made the play
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:39 PM) when we did rush which was rare, we had a spy
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 11:11 PM) As far as the Bills firing the oc I'm not sure I agree with it with Watkins having major foot problem with a steel rod in his surgically repaired foot but I dont follow the Bills so cant really say. I do think they need to get rid of Rob Ryan though. He had a decent year with the Browns then was terrible with the Cowboys and Saints. He isn't half the DC that Rex is. I still think Rex can be a good head coach withe the right coaches and roster but Rob Ryan isn't the answer. But if Rex wants to ruin his chance of staying a head coach by keeping his brother on the coaching staff like he ruined his head coaching job keeping Sanchez as a starter then that's his stupidity
ganggreen2003 Icon : (17 September 2016 - 12:20 AM) The A Football Life of Curtis Martin is a MUST WATCH!!!!
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (17 September 2016 - 02:03 PM) They got rid of their OC after their defense was ripped apart
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:03 PM) Well hell that makes even less sense. The defense gets ripped apart so let's get rid of the oc instead of the dc.they didn't have much of a run game but a lot of passes yards. If they wanted to blame anyone for nearly 40 points against them it was their defense. But guess Rex used the ocean as the scale goat instead of his brother
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:04 PM) Oc not ocean. Damn Auto correct on phone
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:04 PM) And scape goatee
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:05 PM) Lol still can't get it right
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:13 PM) Not sure about anyone else but I'm extremely interested in the 49r/ Panther game at 1pm. Just want to see if the 49rs are actually good this year or if the Rams have become one of the worst teams in the league this year
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:16 PM) If the Rams have regressed that much then all the Todd Gurley owners in fantasy will likely have low points from him all year. Might even be worth trying to trade him early if they look just as bad this week before his stock drops
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:26 PM) I drafted him last year and also had David Johnson, Chris Johnson, Roetlesburger, Romo, Palmer, Barnage,, .....my whole team was stacked with starters. Entire team wasc stacked with starters. Even bench. Made tge Superbowl but did have a rough start at behinning of season when Romo and Roethlisberger wentvdown at the start of season also lost amazing starting rb and wr all within the 1st 4 games but worked the waivers really well..shut out until garbage time by a team that was terrible last year
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:28 PM) Last part meant Rams were shut out entire game even in garbage time against 49r backups
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:29 PM) Sorry about typos. Hard to type on small phone screen
MikeGangGree... Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:00 PM) This is why I'm glad Rex is gone. Fire the OC after the D gives up 500 yards??
MikeGangGree... Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:01 PM) UPDATE THE UPDATE!!!!
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:25 PM) Yep Rex isn't a bad coach but he needs to have all player and coach decisions as far as firing and hiring taken out of his hands. His problem is he doesn't know to separate the job from loyalty to players and is unable to let underperforming players go
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:27 PM) He was great as a DC because he wasn't in charge of roster and firing decisions. He will never make it as a good head coach until he can get rid of loyalty and run a team like any boss runs a business.
azjetfan Icon : (17 September 2016 - 07:16 PM) I loved Rex as a person. But he is severely handicapped in his skill set as a HC. He has not adapted and will not adapt. That's why he isn't here and will be fired from Buffalo.
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:05 AM) It's all guessing and I will like likely stick with my two starters that are injured and playing but D.Thomas looks like he is still in a lot of pain and Stewart is still in the locker room getting ankle treatment so both could be on a snap count
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:06 AM) I have good wr's on bench and good rb's on bench but they have bad matchups. Do t trust Diggs against Greenbay or Doug Martin against Arizona both on bench
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:08 AM) If I made changes I have Crabtree for Oakland Aagainst Atlanta and Abdullah for Detroit against 49rs as my two options I would choose if I made any changes
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:10 AM) Actually have it backwards with my running back teams
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:12 AM) Detroit vs Titans who I believe has a legit defense. Panthers have a better team but the ankle for Stewart and both the Titans and 49rs are ranked #1 against the run. Not a believer in the 49rs defensesthough
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:13 AM) Believe the Rams oline just sucks
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:15 AM) Abdullah splits carries but he did get 17 last week and also catches a lot of passes and has a better qb so could exploit the Titans still
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:16 AM) Will most likely do my own thing anyway just looking for input from those that actually study in fantasy if anyone feels like offering their opinions. If not it's cool too. Thanks
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:18 AM) If not for the injuries to the two players I'd keep them in for sure but all it takes for Thomas is a hit to the hip and a tackle by the ankle for Stewart if they aren't on a snap count already or if pain doesn't get to them.
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 12:45 PM) Well looks like leaving in Stewart was,a,bad move in locker room
MikeGangGree... Icon : (18 September 2016 - 04:54 PM) Good news! Dolphins suck
santana Icon : (19 September 2016 - 08:08 AM) Thanks professor
Jetsfan115 Icon : (23 September 2016 - 03:55 PM) updated roster. FB howsare released, TE bowman added to roster
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Today, 10:09 AM) BREAKING NEWS: Santana is a jinx during JETS games
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#1 User is offline   Jetsfan0099 Icon

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Posted 15 January 2007 - 11:55 AM

This is my wish list, I want....
#1-Asante Samuel
#2-Eric Steinbach(OG/OT)
#3-Michael Turner
#4-Hollis Thomas
Bonus Dwight Freeney if we can get him for OLB!
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Posted 15 January 2007 - 12:01 PM

Not to burst your bubble but we already had this topic.
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Posted 15 January 2007 - 12:04 PM

QUOTE (jets0n @ Jan 15 2007, 12:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Not to burst your bubble but we already had this topic.

I know, but I couldnt find it and I was bord and just thought about what players I really want....
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Posted 15 January 2007 - 12:07 PM

Fair enough:

1. Assante Samuel
2. A DT so the Jets could move DRob to DE
3. Briggs
4. [Ideal Situation] - Trade JMac and a 3rd for M. Turner
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Posted 15 January 2007 - 12:12 PM

NT - Terrdel Sands - 6'7" 335 lbs - The short term answer to our NT problem kills 2 birds with one stone. This guy allows us to move D Rob to DE...and suddenly our line is solid. However, I'm not sure we need a NT. There were some big free agent bodies last year...and we didn't pursue...so maybe Mangini really is OK with Tui and Pouha. Let's hope so...that would be great.

OT - Leonard Davis - Takes over for Clements and makes our run game actually effective.

That's it...than some small time guys Mangini thinks will fit his system. Some may say Asante Samuel...but he may cost too much...so I say no. If we can get him at a fair price...than sure go for it...but with his gaudy numbers...he's sure to go high.
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Posted 15 January 2007 - 12:18 PM

You know what, we have 28 mil. in cap space and plenty of money. Go get Samuel, how much is a real shut down corner worth? Two good corners does so much for a D.
Give me a big fat NT and Samuel and our D would be very improved,
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Posted 15 January 2007 - 12:21 PM

How are you guys putting Asante at the top of the list? We're actually pretty good at CB. With another year in the system we have some good up and coming DB's.

We need a DT or DE if we don't move DRob. That is our #1 priority. We also need a RB and LB upgrade in the worst way. Every other area we can build through the draft.
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Posted 15 January 2007 - 12:21 PM

QUOTE (mangold107 @ Jan 15 2007, 12:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You know what, we have 28 mil. in cap space and plenty of money. Go get Samule, how much is a real shut down corner worth? Two good corners does so much for a D.
Give me a big fat NT and Samule and our D would be very improved,


Yeah and if you spend it all this year we won't have it next year...

Plus...this is the kind of orgnizatoin that's going to build through the draft...the way it should be done. If we do that we need to sign our own guys long term. Jerricho Cotchery definitely needs to be signed. Victor Hobson could be resigned. Rhodes eventually will need to be resigned.

Build through the draft...keep your own players...that is how you win.

Not by signing a bunch of other teams retreads...ehum...Redskins....eh...
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Posted 15 January 2007 - 12:24 PM

A need no one has really been talking about from what ive seen is OG. Look at what shawn andrews has done for the eagles he is a beast. Granted if we continue to use leon as our main back having a OT like leonard davis would be huge because of all the offtackle running. But the key to making our run game better is the OG position. Moore is not only not very good but also extremely penalty prone. Kendall id have to say is good but not great and aging. h eis probably also more cerebral than physical. I also think we need to look DL beyond just NT. I dont know if ellis, as much as I love him, is the answer at DE in 3-4...we need some dominators up front.

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Posted 15 January 2007 - 12:29 PM

QUOTE (VILMAmazing51 @ Jan 15 2007, 12:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
A need no one has really been talking about from what ive seen is OG. Look at what shawn andrews has done for the eagles he is a beast. Granted if we continue to use leon as our main back having a OT like leonard davis would be huge because of all the offtackle running. But the key to making our run game better is the OG position. Moore is not only not very good but also extremely penalty prone. Kendall id have to say is good but not great and aging. h eis probably also more cerebral than physical. I also think we need to look DL beyond just NT. I dont know if ellis, as much as I love him, is the answer at DE in 3-4...we need some dominators up front.


I agree about Ellis...he isn't the answer...but for now he's OK. I think we should draft a guy in the middle rounds like Baraka Atkins to groom and take over for Ellis in a year or so.
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Posted 15 January 2007 - 12:30 PM

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Posted 15 January 2007 - 12:30 PM

QUOTE (SignalZero @ Jan 15 2007, 12:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
How are you guys putting Asante at the top of the list? We're actually pretty good at CB. With another year in the system we have some good up and coming DB's.

We need a DT or DE if we don't move DRob. That is our #1 priority. We also need a RB and LB upgrade in the worst way. Every other area we can build through the draft.


I agree with Ronny here. I really like Miller, he's gonna be great especially because his work ethic has improved vastly. And anyway, I dont think the Pats are gonna let Samuels go. He's the reason they let Ty Law go.

Thus, I like the idea of letting Miller start on the other side and really working hard with him this offseason. Everyone said the kid was raw when he came out... he's still learning and when he gets there he's gonna be amazing.
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Posted 15 January 2007 - 12:38 PM

I though Ellis quietly had a great season, like almost all pro. He blew up plays in the backfield and set up alot of sacks. He could of easily had 8-9 sacks this year. Ellis was our best D-linemen this year, with Robertson behind him. We do need a guy to replace him in the future though, since he will be 30 next year. But we need a replacement now for Kimo, I think that Cory Redding would be a good pickup for that. While we draft a DT/DE high in the draft.
I just want one big FA signing, I think they could do that, I would want Samuel, I was watching him yesterday, he played great. He has great coverage skills, he is a up and coming CB, atleast we can try and get him away from the Pats. That would hurt them big time. I want to trade or cut Barrett, so that would save some money for the future, he is good but, he lacks speed and when we blitz if we dont get to the QB, then he can get torched because of it.

QUOTE (VILMAmazing51 @ Jan 15 2007, 12:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
A need no one has really been talking about from what ive seen is OG. Look at what shawn andrews has done for the eagles he is a beast. Granted if we continue to use leon as our main back having a OT like leonard davis would be huge because of all the offtackle running. But the key to making our run game better is the OG position. Moore is not only not very good but also extremely penalty prone. Kendall id have to say is good but not great and aging. h eis probably also more cerebral than physical. I also think we need to look DL beyond just NT. I dont know if ellis, as much as I love him, is the answer at DE in 3-4...we need some dominators up front.

Thats why I said to sign Eric Steinbach, he is a OG, and a really good one too, he can play OT also. He is verstile, doubt we would go after him.
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Posted 15 January 2007 - 12:42 PM

QUOTE (Jetsfan0099 @ Jan 15 2007, 06:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I just want one big FA signing, I think they could do that, I would want Samuel, I was watching him yesterday, he played great. He has great coverage skills, he is a up and coming CB, atleast we can try and get him away from the Pats. That would hurt them big time. I want to trade or cut Barrett, so that would save some money for the future, he is good but, he lacks speed and when we blitz if we dont get to the QB, then he can get torched because of it.
Thats why I said to sign Eric Steinbach, he is a OG, and a really good one too, he can play OT also. He is verstile, doubt we would go after him.


I agree on both parts and feel that Eric Steinbach would be a great pickup as Kendall is very much on the wrong side of 30 and Brandon Moore had an on and off season for the most part. However the one knock with Steinbach is that in New York he'd be surrounded by a lot of water and may fancy taking another drunken boat trip, like he did earlier in the season, and earn himself another DUI. crazy.gif

Samuel would be by main target as a FA but I wouldn't call him an up and coming CB. Remember he had 10 INTs this year, level with Champ Bailey, so IMO he is already one of the elite NFL CBs.
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Posted 15 January 2007 - 12:43 PM

QUOTE (jets0n @ Jan 15 2007, 01:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I agree with Ronny here. I really like Miller, he's gonna be great especially because his work ethic has improved vastly. And anyway, I dont think the Pats are gonna let Samuels go. He's the reason they let Ty Law go.

Thus, I like the idea of letting Miller start on the other side and really working hard with him this offseason. Everyone said the kid was raw when he came out... he's still learning and when he gets there he's gonna be amazing.

I really dont know about Miller, I mean he improved his play alot during the season at CB. At first he stunk, but later in the year he did good, he is a very good tackler, and a big time hitter. Plus he doesnt get beat deep, he has great speed. He still should of had that int against the Pats. But still if we try and wait for these guys, then we wont be good again next year, Idk if we can trust Miller for next season. I really wish we started Miller all season. Barrett isnt good for us, he is too slow and is prone to the deep throw on the blitz. Samuel is a guy that knows the system and is a great up and coming player. I would love for us to take him away from the Pats. I had my eye on Samuel for like 3 years now.
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Posted 15 January 2007 - 12:45 PM

QUOTE (mangold107 @ Jan 15 2007, 12:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You know what, we have 28 mil. in cap space and plenty of money. Go get Samuel, how much is a real shut down corner worth? Two good corners does so much for a D.
Give me a big fat NT and Samuel and our D would be very improved,


That's the biggest misconception what you just said. Remember that we will probably resign,Cotchery,Hobson and Mangini. There won't be as much money as you think there will be. Just remember to factor in that point when you talk about F.A's
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Posted 15 January 2007 - 12:49 PM

QUOTE (Smedsthejet @ Jan 15 2007, 01:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I agree on both parts and feel that Eric Steinbach would be a great pickup as Kendall is very much on the wrong side of 30 and Brandon Moore had an on and off season for the most part. However the one knock with Steinbach is that in New York he'd be surrounded by a lot of water and may fancy taking another drunken boat trip, like he did earlier in the season, and earn himself another DUI. crazy.gif

Samuel would be by main target as a FA but I wouldn't call him an up and coming CB. Remember he had 10 INTs this year, level with Champ Bailey, so IMO he is already one of the elite NFL CBs.

He is kinda a up and coming player for the fact that he keeps on improving. He didnt make the probowl so he is still on the rise, untill he becomes a CB that makes it every year and is well known, but his 10 picks does attract attention. I think that, that may be the reason we dont get him because of his 10 picks, and he is going to want some kind of contract. Especially since he had another int against us in the playoffs for a TD, and is playing amazing in the playoffs. Would absolutly love to sign this guy though.

QUOTE (S-Dubb @ Jan 15 2007, 01:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That's the biggest misconception what you just said. Remember that we will probably resign,Cotchery,Hobson and Mangini. There won't be as much money as you think there will be. Just remember to factor in that point when you talk about F.A's

Coaches take up cap money?????
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Posted 15 January 2007 - 12:54 PM

QUOTE (Jetsfan0099 @ Jan 15 2007, 06:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Coaches take up cap money?????


I don't think they do but they take up money from the organisation, which includes cap money. The lower revenue teams find it hard to use all their cap money because of this.
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Posted 15 January 2007 - 01:37 PM

Yeah cause Woody Johnson isn't a billionaire.
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Posted 15 January 2007 - 09:21 PM

1. dwight freeney or draft lamar woodley
2. Get a NT
3. draft someone on the OL. RT or Guard
4. get someone to play corner ( samuels, nick harpers, clements)


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