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Jets win 3-1. Beat dolphins so bad that philbin isnt allowed back from england.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 01:37 PM) how do you block Wilkerson, Richardson, and Williams on passing downs?
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 01:37 PM) if he's not convicted since he has to go back to court now that his suspension is over
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 01:37 PM) I would like to see us use a 4 man front on passing downs. With Wilk on the the end Rich on the other end and Williams and Harrison in the middle
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 01:37 PM) the interior pressure we'll bring is going to be crazy
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 01:37 PM) and if he's in game shape
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 01:37 PM) Or Use Rich and Williams in the middle and put Wilk and Coples on the Ends
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 01:38 PM) Richardson won't be suspended this season from that
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 01:40 PM) This D-line reminds me of the 2011 Giants who used JPP and Tuck on the inside and Osi and Kiwanuka on the ends
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 01:41 PM) 4 10 sack players at 1 points in their careers and no o-line could stop them all
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 01:41 PM) I think this D-line will be so much better
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 01:43 PM) The thing that is scary is that we also have a great secondary
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 01:44 PM) Exactly
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 01:44 PM) All of our additions in the secondary look great. Darrelle Revis changes secondaries
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 01:44 PM) Buster Skrine has been a beast at nickel
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 01:45 PM) Take a sack or throw it up
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 01:45 PM) Marcus Gilchrist has been making plays in coverage at FS.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 01:45 PM) The Island!!!
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 01:45 PM) Never should have let him go
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 01:45 PM) We could have just taken Rich at 9
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 01:46 PM) but o well he is back now
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 01:46 PM) You got to think Revis has also never had this much talent around him
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 01:48 PM) all 3 of our wins we pretty much dominated in
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 01:48 PM) Our defense has allowed the leagues best 13 PPG
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 01:49 PM) We beat us against Philly
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 01:50 PM) 4 turnovers and a Punt return TD
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 01:58 PM) If fitz can be smart with the ball and Marshall Decker and Ivory and stay healthy I think we can beat anyone
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 02:36 PM) http://www.sun-senti...1005-story.html
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 03:16 PM) I get it to a point why everyone is making a big deal about that missed call because difference between a win and a loss but I have never seen that call made in over 30 years of watching NFL so I guarantee that none of the fans , coaches or players new the rule. Yes the refs should know all the rules but they aren't computers and it's impossible for them to remember all the 1000's of rules. Especially an old rule no one but the officials ever heard of before. 22 new officials didn't help either. It took an old long time official now retired from officiating to tell the world the rule. Everyone and the officials will remember that rule from now on after all the media
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 03:27 PM) Lions fans are b*tching like hell about it. We would be if it happened to us but I think it's a bad rule any way and should be scrapped. If the defense causes the offensive player to fumble in the end zone because the defense makes a good play I personally think it would be bullshit to give the fumbling team the ball back. If the ball went out of bounds on its own or if a player tried to recover it and the ball went out of the end zone it's not a penalty. Both cases are a touchback so I feel that giving the ball back to the offense that fumbled it because of the defense batting the ball out of the end zone if the offense recovered the ball it would be a td so it would be bullshit to give them the ball back because of a simple ball bat. Rule should really be changed
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 03:30 PM) It's ok for the offense to deliberately take a safety to prevent a TD and only give up 2 points an benefit themselves so yeah I think it is an old out of date rule that should be thrown out. If the d makes a great play they shouldn't have to give the offense the ball back because of a stupid rule
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 03:30 PM) So I'm glad it wasn't called
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 03:31 PM) Hope it's changed next year
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Today, 03:31 PM) it's been called a ton of times, they showed a montage o ESPN last night of a bunch of times it's been called
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Today, 03:33 PM) just because one player made a great play, doesn't mean you can excuse someone making a bonehead play
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Today, 03:34 PM) chancellor made a great play (remember when i wanted the jets to draft him?) but the LBer should have not illegally batted it, he could have tried to recover it or body blocked det from recovering.
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 03:34 PM) Not sure what ESPN you had on ESPN China? I left ESPN on for 2 hours after the game and I never seen this montage you say. I'm calling you out as bullshit. Show me a video of proof
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 03:38 PM) Even the old ESPN official couldn't remember an instance of it being called. It isn't the same as the offense backing out of the end zone with the ball or being sacked in the end zone for a safety. Completely different rule and situation. I've never seen it called and I watch at least 6 games at a time a week. None of the ESPN announcer players, Ray Lewis, Dilfer, or Young even knew the rule and that's over 20 years of NFL experience. Yet none of them knew or understood the rule until it was explained in detail
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 03:40 PM) I've never once seen the ball given back to to offense so I challenge you to show me this montage you claim was on. If I didn't see it for two hours I after the game I'm calling bullshit on your end
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 03:43 PM) Say whatever you want but show me proof or just leave it be because I won't believe you without a bunch of video proof. I have a hell of a memory and if it ever was called maybe once or twice in the past 30 years but no way there is some montage
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 03:48 PM) Nether coach knew the rule either and they would know more of the rules than the players and fans. If not for a retired official bringing it up it probably would've never even been brought up at all
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 03:58 PM) I highly questionable is on now and they are even saying no one knew the rule or complained until they were told the rule.
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 04:05 PM) I have seen plenty of games where defenders did knock the ball out of the end zone like the situation last night to prevent any possible touchdown not disputing that because that has happened a good many times. My point is I've never seen a flag thrown for it and the ball given to the offense. It's definitely an obsolete rule that should be thrown out. The NFL has made the rules so offensive friendly these days it's hard to play defense with out calls anymore. That is just one more bullshit rule to help the offense. Take the Jets Dolphins game for instance. Those bullshit pi calls against our defense for clearly uncatchable balls. Pi never should've never been called giving up like 60 yards on two calls and a td that never would've happened. At most they should've been 5 yard holding calls. Never would've been mad if they just called them holding calls.
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 04:06 PM) Anyway I'm tired of all these offense friendly rules these days screwing over the defenses. It's starting to get like non touch flag football for the defenses.
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 04:11 PM) You know it too. Our team has been a defensive team for well over a decade and so many bullshit calls have been called against our defense because of the new offensive friendly rules. So I say screw Detroit. I'm glad it wasn't called and a defense gets a break
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Today, 06:37 PM) call em a liar if you want, but I seen it man
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Post icon  Posted 09 July 2005 - 07:15 PM

Jordan's son says he's got game, too
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INDIANAPOLIS (AP) - Jeffrey Jordan needs no introduction at the Nike All-America Camp.

The contagious smile, penetrating stare, and determined look on his boyish 16-year-old face resemble the features of his world-famous father, Michael, and offer proof that young Jeffrey is the true heir to the Air Jordan legacy.
If there was any doubt about the lineage, he wears it proudly on the front of his T-shirt: J-O-R-D-A-N.

But Jordan has come to Indianapolis to prove one thing - that he, too, can play basketball.

"I want to show that I belong here," he said. "I guess I'm not the top one or two or three or four players in my state, but I want to show that I can play here and that I'm not just a name."

For Jordan, a student at Loyola Academy College Prep near Chicago, that will be a challenge. His father is considered by many to be the greatest player in NBA history after leading the Chicago Bulls to six titles, and filling the highlight reels with breathtaking dunks. It was also Michael Jordan who turned Nike from a budding shoe company into a worldwide giant.

Following in those footsteps could intimidate most kids. Not Jeffrey.

"To me, he's just my dad," Jordan said.

Jordan realizes he's different. He stands just 6 feet (1.83 meters) - six inches (15 centimeters) shorter than his dad - weighs 170 pounds (76 kilograms), and still remembers the times he attended Bulls practices as a child and watched his father play with an unforgettable fierceness.

Already, Jordan is under scrutiny. As Michael Jordan's son, expectations are higher than normal, reporters are already asking about his vertical jump, and it's virtually impossible to hide even when he's playing with 120 other top junior players.

"That's the greatest basketball player's son," said Jai Lucas, Jordan's roommate this week.

Just two days into the weeklong camp, Jordan has already become the camp's darling.

Everywhere he goes, fans and reporters follow, hoping to get a sneak peek at the younger Jordan and gleam any clue they can about whether he can someday approach his father's greatness.

Being in the spotlight hardly fazes Jordan. Dealing with dozens of reporters, a rare occurrence for someone not ranked among the best of the 2007 class, he answered questions like a pro - laughing, smiling, joking and telling stories while deftly avoiding the temptation to give away any family secrets.

Yet Jordan, who has some leading universities showing interest in him, is intent on carving out his own niche.

His number, 32, is a reversal of his father's more familiar 23. He turned down an invitation to attend last year's Nike camp because he didn't think he was ready and, this year, Jordan hopes to use the camp as his coming out party. He glides smoothly without the ball, looking for a chance to put his father's advice about playing fundamentally sound to work. But he may never avoid the questions.

"The most common question? Well, that would be whether I was in 'Space Jam,"' he said, referring to the animated film starring his father and several Looney Tunes characters. "I wasn't. The next most common question from kids is whether I live in a big house. I tell them, 'Well, yeah,' and they're like 'Oh man, I wish I could be you."'

Jordan has no choice although there certainly are times he would rather just be one of the guys.

This camp at least gives him a chance. Lucas is the son of former NBA player and coach John Lucas. Jonnie West is the son of Hall of Famer Jerry West and sons of other former players, such as Patrick Ewing Jr., have preceded him at the Nike camp.

But wherever Jordan goes, he still has the target on his back.

"Everybody wants to dunk on him because he's his son," said Matthew Bryan-Amaning, a 6-foot-9 (2.06-meter) English player who grew up watching Jordan's father. "But you don't really think that way when you're playing. You just want to play your best basketball."

Jordan even acknowledges there have been times he's felt opponents have wanted to "take him out" so they could brag about it to their friends.

Off the court, though, Jordan tells of a family life that seems about as regular as most father-son relationships.

There are regular debates about the new minimum age limit for the NBA draft - Michael supports it; Jeffrey resents it. And then there are the one-on-one contests, which Jeffrey said have become less frequent as his father ages.

"Sometimes he let me beat him, other times he would just try to block my shots," he said. "I beat him once, but he's getting older now, so maybe I could beat him."

But Jordan insists it was always his decision to play basketball, though his father did shield him from playing on the national level at an early age.

These days, they chat about what works about his game, what doesn't work and what it will take for him to succeed at the next level.

But wherever Jeffrey Jordan ends up, he knows this: He will never escape his father's image.

"I'm as competitive as he is, I'm just quieter about it," he said. "But that's my dad and it's pretty easy talking about him."

Jeffrey Jordan has become the media darling of the 2005 Nike All-America Camp. (AJ Mast / Getty Images)

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