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MikeGangGree... Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:09 AM) good
MikeGangGree... Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:09 AM) Best day of the week is the day after a Jets Win!
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:12 AM) Rob you think the offense started off ugly? we scored on our first 4 drives, and controlled the ball 80% of the time the first half. We didn't even punt until the 2nd half
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:21 AM) I meant the hits on Fitz at on the first Drive or two with the fumbles and almost fumbles....The Tom Brady rule where balls that used to be fumbles are incomplete. We recovered the ball on all but one but it was ruled incomplete
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:26 AM) The offensive line stepped off after Hughes got hurt for however long he was out. I don't blame J. Marsh for that fumble because that was just a hell of a play. Imo Fitz had a career best game even with only 1 td passing. Never seen him so accurate. So yeah when I meant ugly I meant dline penetration and the 1st two drives ending up in fieldgoals
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:30 AM) But 31 points given up passing by the defense passing was bad. It wasn't just 2 long bombs and that defensive touchdown leading to 21 points. 3q1 against a bad team was terrible for the defense. Without the offense putting up 37 the Jets,would have lost so yeah I consider it an ugly start on both ends
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:32 AM) I'm glad like everyone else that the Jets won. Especially with getting with by the Bills multiple times it was nice revenge.
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:34 AM) Just saying that the Bills look like a bad team this year and the Jets have to face a lot of teams that are probably playoff bound again so yes there is a lot of concern
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 11:39 AM) fitz look good and lets not forget the 50+ yarder to decker that was called back on a BS holding penalty. plus if you rewatch it, the jets d-line was getting held like crazy and never got calls. I seen McLendon, williams, and wilk all complaining about it
azjetfan Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:32 PM) I think the game plan for the D was to keep Taylor in the pocker
azjetfan Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:33 PM) They didn't want him running around when they only rushed 3-4 guts
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:37 PM) bills fired their OC today after the loss yesterday lol
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:38 PM) yeah we didn't really rush, we just tried to keep contain on the outside and collapse the middle
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:38 PM) on the salas TD, one of our LBers went for the sack and broke contain and pryor got away and made the play
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:39 PM) when we did rush which was rare, we had a spy
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 11:11 PM) As far as the Bills firing the oc I'm not sure I agree with it with Watkins having major foot problem with a steel rod in his surgically repaired foot but I dont follow the Bills so cant really say. I do think they need to get rid of Rob Ryan though. He had a decent year with the Browns then was terrible with the Cowboys and Saints. He isn't half the DC that Rex is. I still think Rex can be a good head coach withe the right coaches and roster but Rob Ryan isn't the answer. But if Rex wants to ruin his chance of staying a head coach by keeping his brother on the coaching staff like he ruined his head coaching job keeping Sanchez as a starter then that's his stupidity
ganggreen2003 Icon : (17 September 2016 - 12:20 AM) The A Football Life of Curtis Martin is a MUST WATCH!!!!
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (17 September 2016 - 02:03 PM) They got rid of their OC after their defense was ripped apart
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:03 PM) Well hell that makes even less sense. The defense gets ripped apart so let's get rid of the oc instead of the dc.they didn't have much of a run game but a lot of passes yards. If they wanted to blame anyone for nearly 40 points against them it was their defense. But guess Rex used the ocean as the scale goat instead of his brother
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:04 PM) Oc not ocean. Damn Auto correct on phone
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:04 PM) And scape goatee
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:05 PM) Lol still can't get it right
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:13 PM) Not sure about anyone else but I'm extremely interested in the 49r/ Panther game at 1pm. Just want to see if the 49rs are actually good this year or if the Rams have become one of the worst teams in the league this year
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:16 PM) If the Rams have regressed that much then all the Todd Gurley owners in fantasy will likely have low points from him all year. Might even be worth trying to trade him early if they look just as bad this week before his stock drops
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:26 PM) I drafted him last year and also had David Johnson, Chris Johnson, Roetlesburger, Romo, Palmer, Barnage,, .....my whole team was stacked with starters. Entire team wasc stacked with starters. Even bench. Made tge Superbowl but did have a rough start at behinning of season when Romo and Roethlisberger wentvdown at the start of season also lost amazing starting rb and wr all within the 1st 4 games but worked the waivers really well..shut out until garbage time by a team that was terrible last year
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:28 PM) Last part meant Rams were shut out entire game even in garbage time against 49r backups
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:29 PM) Sorry about typos. Hard to type on small phone screen
MikeGangGree... Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:00 PM) This is why I'm glad Rex is gone. Fire the OC after the D gives up 500 yards??
MikeGangGree... Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:01 PM) UPDATE THE UPDATE!!!!
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:25 PM) Yep Rex isn't a bad coach but he needs to have all player and coach decisions as far as firing and hiring taken out of his hands. His problem is he doesn't know to separate the job from loyalty to players and is unable to let underperforming players go
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:27 PM) He was great as a DC because he wasn't in charge of roster and firing decisions. He will never make it as a good head coach until he can get rid of loyalty and run a team like any boss runs a business.
azjetfan Icon : (17 September 2016 - 07:16 PM) I loved Rex as a person. But he is severely handicapped in his skill set as a HC. He has not adapted and will not adapt. That's why he isn't here and will be fired from Buffalo.
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:05 AM) It's all guessing and I will like likely stick with my two starters that are injured and playing but D.Thomas looks like he is still in a lot of pain and Stewart is still in the locker room getting ankle treatment so both could be on a snap count
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:06 AM) I have good wr's on bench and good rb's on bench but they have bad matchups. Do t trust Diggs against Greenbay or Doug Martin against Arizona both on bench
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:08 AM) If I made changes I have Crabtree for Oakland Aagainst Atlanta and Abdullah for Detroit against 49rs as my two options I would choose if I made any changes
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:10 AM) Actually have it backwards with my running back teams
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:12 AM) Detroit vs Titans who I believe has a legit defense. Panthers have a better team but the ankle for Stewart and both the Titans and 49rs are ranked #1 against the run. Not a believer in the 49rs defensesthough
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:13 AM) Believe the Rams oline just sucks
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:15 AM) Abdullah splits carries but he did get 17 last week and also catches a lot of passes and has a better qb so could exploit the Titans still
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:16 AM) Will most likely do my own thing anyway just looking for input from those that actually study in fantasy if anyone feels like offering their opinions. If not it's cool too. Thanks
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:18 AM) If not for the injuries to the two players I'd keep them in for sure but all it takes for Thomas is a hit to the hip and a tackle by the ankle for Stewart if they aren't on a snap count already or if pain doesn't get to them.
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 12:45 PM) Well looks like leaving in Stewart was,a,bad move in locker room
MikeGangGree... Icon : (18 September 2016 - 04:54 PM) Good news! Dolphins suck
santana Icon : (19 September 2016 - 08:08 AM) Thanks professor
Jetsfan115 Icon : (23 September 2016 - 03:55 PM) updated roster. FB howsare released, TE bowman added to roster
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Kerry Rhodes- The Secondary Needs To Hold Up Their End Of The Bargain Erik Boland

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Post icon  Posted 28 November 2008 - 03:49 PM

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BY ERIK BOLAND |[email="erik.boland@newsday.com?subject=Newsday.com%20Article"]erik.boland@newsday.com[/email] November 28, 2008 Kerry Rhodes said he would attack the Jets' defense the same way.

"The way we're stopping the run, I can't complain; why not pass against us?" the Jets safety said. "Teams have to resort to the pass. That's just how it is. We just have to step up on the back end and try to hold up our end of the bargain."

The Jets enter Sunday's home game against the Broncos as the league's third-toughest team to run against, allowing only 78 yards per game. They're coming off a 34-13 victory in Tennessee in which they gave up 45 rushing yards to the then-unbeaten Titans.

But defending the pass has been a different story. The Jets rank 26th against the pass, allowing 239.4 yards per game. The scouting report, from the early part of the season to now, has read about the same: Against the Jets, pass, pass, pass.


Which is what the Broncos do best.

Led by quarterback Jay Cutler, Denver ranks third in the league in total offense (382.5 yards per game), including third in passing yards (273.0).

"They throw the ball a lot. I think it's like 60 percent of the time," cornerback Darrelle Revis said. "We're expecting it and we know it's coming, so we just have to focus up on what we have to do. But we're definitely looking forward to this game. We can get a lot of hands on the ball and try to make plays."

Translation: The Jets think they'll have some chances to pick off Cutler.

The confident third-year quarterback out of Vanderbilt has thrown for 3,036 yards with 19 touchdowns, but also has thrown 12 interceptions this season.

"He's a young guy, so maybe he's a little more brave in what he's doing out there, he'll take some chances," Rhodes said. "He's kind of a young gunslinger anyway, so he comes out, throws the ball around, runs around, trying to make plays. That's the type of player he is, so I think we'll have the opportunity to make plays."

Sounds a bit like Brett Favre. Cutler has been compared to the Jets' quarterback, and his statistics are pretty close to this year's version. Favre enters Sunday's game with 20 touchdown passes and 13 interceptions, though he has thrown only one pick in his last three games.

But Cutler steered clear of that beyond saying he admires Favre. Perhaps he still is mindful of the criticism he took this season when he was quoted as saying that "hands down," he has a stronger arm than Broncos icon John Elway.

"I have a long way to go," Cutler said Wednesday, addressing the Favre comparison. "You're talking about Brett Favre, one of the greatest quarterbacks to ever play the game. He's accomplished a lot throughout his career. I'm just kind of getting started. We'll see. Hopefully, I'm still a starter five to 10 years from now."

Flanking Cutler are two receivers who have helped him emerge this season. The 6-4, 230-pound Brandon Marshall, whom Jets coach Eric Mangini compared to Randy Moss - Revis said he's more like Terrell Owens - leads the Broncos with 67 receptions for 887 yards and four TDs. The speedy Eddie Royal has 58 receptions for 673 yards and four TDs.

"That's a combination where you have physicality on one side [Marshall] and you have speed and shiftiness [Royal] on the other side," Revis said.

Rhodes acknowledged the Jets' struggles defending the pass, though he said the various moving parts at cornerback and safety - other than himself and Revis - have played a role.

"That has a little bit to do with it," Rhodes said. "In the secondary, you have to have a feel for each other. There's times where Darrelle and I will look at each other and know what we want to do. When you have another guy in or a young guy in who's not used to getting those reps with us, it's kind of tough. But I think now as the season's going on, we're kind of figuring out how we want to approach it and how we want to match up with different people. It's starting to get better."

For the Jets to keep rolling, that will have to continue Sunday.

Sunday

Broncos at Jets

4:15 p.m.

TV: Ch. 2,

Radio: WEPN (1050), WABC (770), WRCN (103.9)


Like I said. This game scares me!
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Posted 28 November 2008 - 04:01 PM

QUOTE (S-Dubb @ Nov 28 2008, 08:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Like I said. This game scares me!


I think Rhodes will get an INT in this game - oops sorry Dubb, that's usually your line!
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Posted 28 November 2008 - 05:54 PM

QUOTE (S-Dubb @ Nov 28 2008, 04:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Like I said. This game scares me!


Uh how long did we hold the ball against a solid team that stops the run, runs the ball and doesnt beat itself? 40 min. How long will we hold the ball against a team that does none of that? 45 min? 50 min? all of the game? hah. I'm not worried in the least.
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Posted 28 November 2008 - 06:20 PM

QUOTE (ManginiIsMyFather @ Nov 28 2008, 05:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Uh how long did we hold the ball against a solid team that stops the run, runs the ball and doesnt beat itself? 40 min. How long will we hold the ball against a team that does none of that? 45 min? 50 min? all of the game? hah. I'm not worried in the least.


any give sunday man...problem is...if the Jets players are thinking the way you are...and the Broncos are out determined to prove they can beat the new bandwagon team...it's an easy trap game.

After the jets expended so much energy to beat the Pats and Titans the past 2 weeks...you could easily see them taking this game too lightly.

I doubt it...but it's not like we're playing the lions here.
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Posted 28 November 2008 - 07:46 PM

I'm not the type who thinks that because I feel confident and *beep*y and looking past an opponent that the team I root for is doing the same. Hopefully the Jets learned their lesson from the Raider game.
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Posted 28 November 2008 - 09:18 PM

QUOTE (ManginiIsMyFather @ Nov 28 2008, 05:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Uh how long did we hold the ball against a solid team that stops the run, runs the ball and doesnt beat itself? 40 min. How long will we hold the ball against a team that does none of that? 45 min? 50 min? all of the game? hah. I'm not worried in the least.

I hear you but all good passing teams have given us trouble all year no matter how bad the teams were.Running teams we shut down.Denver is a passing team so that is why we think it is a trap game the Jets could have some trouble with.
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Posted 29 November 2008 - 02:47 AM

Those stats are misleading. Yeah we are 26th against the pass but thats because our defense is playin prevent for half of the game. When the Jets are passed on while playing their main defense, the secondary does pretty well. The other team just starts racking up yards everytime we get into prevent mode.

Im not worried about our secondary
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