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azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:52 AM) He is a good QB and I would love to have him. However IMO our 6 is not good value for us. Not to mention if he hates the idea of LA what is he going to think of NY? Contract situation would have to be worked out prior to trade as well. Extreme long shot to land Rivers. My money says we are more likely to land Brees.
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:53 AM) which is still a very long shot
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:46 AM) he may just hate ownership. LT's comments yesterday was interesting.
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) “I personally don’t think so,” Tomlinson said. “I really think this is a situation where Philip Rivers wants to move on. The reason why I think that and the reason why I feel like that is the Chargers have already approached Philip about doing another contract and he declined it. He doesn’t want anything to do with it; he didn’t even want to talk about another contract with the San Diego Chargers. That tells me that he’s thinking about moving on.”

“You never want to trade your franchise quarterback,” Tomlinson said, “that’s never the case. However, in this situation they might have no choice but to do so because I don’t know if Philip [Rivers] wants to be there anymore. I think he’s lost confidence in the organization. He’s seeing a lot of changes going on and the L.A. thing is valid; him not wanting to go to L.A., that is very valid, I can see that. So no, it doesn’t make sense to move on from Philip because he’s a franchise quarterback and he still has three to four very good years left.”
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) missed the LA line. nvm. guess that is a legit concern.
Mr_Jet Icon : (21 April 2015 - 03:57 PM) He doesn't want to play for a franchise based in Los Angeles, but he'd be okay with playing for one based in New York City?
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 04:28 PM) That's the point we have all been making.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:05 PM) Jets vs colts Monday night week2
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:09 PM) Jets open at home against the browns
ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:52 PM) Week 5 Bye after the London Game against the Dolphags
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) Rivers is likely going to Tennessee. Would LOVE to have him here but we likely won't make the trade. I'd easily give this year and next year
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) 's first rounder for him
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 11:03 AM) IMO that's a steep price. I would swap this years first and a conditional 1st next year. Assuming we make the AFC Championship. That would be a 28-32nd pick. Otherwise a second.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:07 PM) Yes 2 1st is a lot
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:10 PM) draft is next week, pumped
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:02 PM) What are thoughts on getting a RB in round 1? McShay's newest mock has us taking Gurley at 6. I don't think we should take him that high, but if we trade down and he's available I'd love to snag him, ACL and all. He's got an unreal skill set that, once healthy, will translate readily to the NFL. We're not getting a QB this year without paying a king's ransom, and unless we pay a ransom for a top guy I say ignore QB. I don't want us to take a Hundley or Petty type in the 2nd or 3rd round when we need other pieces (edge rush, OL)
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
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.@LanceZierlein says on http://sports790.com that Shane Ray will need surgery on foot, 5 months recovery. "Could drop out of first"
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
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Posted 15 January 2007 - 03:04 PM

This has to be a huge priority again this offseason. Our right side needs to be upgraded. Against the Pats the offensive line was pushed around and were dominated, they did some good things but the first half was a mess. Brick and Mangold were a good start, but we need to continue building the line with some more guys. We need a OT and a OG. I think if we sign Eric Steinbach, that would be a good move, it would give us a good young player for OG. He can play OT too. If we do end up doing that, then maybe we can draft a RT and resign Clements and have Clements start for another season with a rookie RT under him. We would also need a replacement for Kendall who is getting old, he probaly has one more year in him then we need a new starter there.
Hopefully Brick gains some weight, and has a better 2nd year and does a good job. Hopefully we upgrade the line a little bit more and then we have a great offensive line next year instead of just a good line this year.
Also has anyone relised how much it hurt us by not resigning Mckenzie, he was a dominate run blocker for us. I really wish we resigned him, I guarentee if Mr.T and Mangini were the head guys then we would of resigned him.
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Posted 15 January 2007 - 03:26 PM

how about letting ferguson go also....itd be nice to have him right now

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Posted 15 January 2007 - 03:28 PM

QUOTE (VILMAmazing51 @ Jan 15 2007, 04:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
how about letting ferguson go also....itd be nice to have him right now

Yea but I am talking about offensive line right now, but you are right Jason Ferguson has been awesome all year at NT for the Cowboys. I hate them for taking him from us!
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Posted 15 January 2007 - 03:37 PM

I agree that the right side of the o line really needs to be upgraded. Clement had an ok year, but is by no means a long term solution. I've stated several times that I've never really been a big fan of Brandon Moore. It would be great if they could get Eric Steinbach but I'm not sure if he's gonna leave Cincy. The offensive line is so important in football. The reason the Jets were so inconsistent in the running game is because a lot of the time, the o line just wasn't opening up any holes for the running backs. This put more pressure on Chad and contributed to his career high 17 INTs. Hopefully the running game will improve next year. That will make things a lot easier on Chad.

And it would be really nice if they still had McKenzie or Jason Ferguson.
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Posted 15 January 2007 - 03:41 PM

We need to upgrade Anthony Clement, but he's kind of solid. Something has to be done about Moore, every single game he has some kind of stupid penalty to screw us in the middle of a drive.

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Posted 15 January 2007 - 03:47 PM

Both players were grossly overpaid. It was the right decision to not pay them that kind of price. However, it was stupid to not replace them with adequate talent via the draft.
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Posted 15 January 2007 - 03:58 PM

just blalock, he can play guard or tackle, maybe with our 1st 2nd round pick we can take him.

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Posted 15 January 2007 - 04:28 PM

QUOTE (Jetsfan0099 @ Jan 15 2007, 04:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yea but I am talking about offensive line right now, but you are right Jason Ferguson has been awesome all year at NT for the Cowboys. I hate them for taking him from us!



i know this an o-line convo just stating some recent FA we let get away that would really fit our systems now.....ive been thinking about this alot...i know everyone wants a top RB this offseason, but I really sometimes questione how necessary it is....i mean look at denver, kc, pitt, etc....but especially denver....when you have a killer o-line it alsmost doesnt matter who is back there...i mean mike bell, tatum bell, portis, davis, it has never mattered who is back there.....for this reason i am inclined to hope for michael bush in the 2nd or even a sleeper later....thoughts?

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Posted 15 January 2007 - 05:21 PM

olandis gary?!?!? and mike anderson rushed for over a thousand yards behind that oline too

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Posted 15 January 2007 - 05:47 PM

QUOTE (Jetsfan0099 @ Jan 15 2007, 03:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This has to be a huge priority again this offseason. Our right side needs to be upgraded. Against the Pats the offensive line was pushed around and were dominated, they did some good things but the first half was a mess. Brick and Mangold were a good start, but we need to continue building the line with some more guys. We need a OT and a OG. I think if we sign Eric Steinbach, that would be a good move, it would give us a good young player for OG. He can play OT too. If we do end up doing that, then maybe we can draft a RT and resign Clements and have Clements start for another season with a rookie RT under him. We would also need a replacement for Kendall who is getting old, he probaly has one more year in him then we need a new starter there.
Hopefully Brick gains some weight, and has a better 2nd year and does a good job. Hopefully we upgrade the line a little bit more and then we have a great offensive line next year instead of just a good line this year.
Also has anyone relised how much it hurt us by not resigning Mckenzie, he was a dominate run blocker for us. I really wish we resigned him, I guarentee if Mr.T and Mangini were the head guys then we would of resigned him.

The Giants way overpaid for McKenzie; I was glad we didn't get stuck with that contract. Tangini would never pay that kind of $ for a decent guard. I would love to get Steinbach, he has the versatility we need.
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Posted 15 January 2007 - 06:19 PM

Yea but they would of resigned Mckenzie before he hit the open market so he would of been cheaper.
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Posted 15 January 2007 - 06:25 PM

I think we'll either get OT Sears or OG Ben Grubbs in like late 2nd or 3rd.

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Posted 15 January 2007 - 09:29 PM

This is another guy we could go after, Dielmen from the Chargers, he is a OG, a pretty good one too, he is going to the probowl this year, he is a UFA
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