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MikeGangGree... Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:09 AM) Best day of the week is the day after a Jets Win!
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:12 AM) Rob you think the offense started off ugly? we scored on our first 4 drives, and controlled the ball 80% of the time the first half. We didn't even punt until the 2nd half
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:21 AM) I meant the hits on Fitz at on the first Drive or two with the fumbles and almost fumbles....The Tom Brady rule where balls that used to be fumbles are incomplete. We recovered the ball on all but one but it was ruled incomplete
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:26 AM) The offensive line stepped off after Hughes got hurt for however long he was out. I don't blame J. Marsh for that fumble because that was just a hell of a play. Imo Fitz had a career best game even with only 1 td passing. Never seen him so accurate. So yeah when I meant ugly I meant dline penetration and the 1st two drives ending up in fieldgoals
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:30 AM) But 31 points given up passing by the defense passing was bad. It wasn't just 2 long bombs and that defensive touchdown leading to 21 points. 3q1 against a bad team was terrible for the defense. Without the offense putting up 37 the Jets,would have lost so yeah I consider it an ugly start on both ends
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:32 AM) I'm glad like everyone else that the Jets won. Especially with getting with by the Bills multiple times it was nice revenge.
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:34 AM) Just saying that the Bills look like a bad team this year and the Jets have to face a lot of teams that are probably playoff bound again so yes there is a lot of concern
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 11:39 AM) fitz look good and lets not forget the 50+ yarder to decker that was called back on a BS holding penalty. plus if you rewatch it, the jets d-line was getting held like crazy and never got calls. I seen McLendon, williams, and wilk all complaining about it
azjetfan Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:32 PM) I think the game plan for the D was to keep Taylor in the pocker
azjetfan Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:33 PM) They didn't want him running around when they only rushed 3-4 guts
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:37 PM) bills fired their OC today after the loss yesterday lol
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:38 PM) yeah we didn't really rush, we just tried to keep contain on the outside and collapse the middle
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:38 PM) on the salas TD, one of our LBers went for the sack and broke contain and pryor got away and made the play
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:39 PM) when we did rush which was rare, we had a spy
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 11:11 PM) As far as the Bills firing the oc I'm not sure I agree with it with Watkins having major foot problem with a steel rod in his surgically repaired foot but I dont follow the Bills so cant really say. I do think they need to get rid of Rob Ryan though. He had a decent year with the Browns then was terrible with the Cowboys and Saints. He isn't half the DC that Rex is. I still think Rex can be a good head coach withe the right coaches and roster but Rob Ryan isn't the answer. But if Rex wants to ruin his chance of staying a head coach by keeping his brother on the coaching staff like he ruined his head coaching job keeping Sanchez as a starter then that's his stupidity
ganggreen2003 Icon : (17 September 2016 - 12:20 AM) The A Football Life of Curtis Martin is a MUST WATCH!!!!
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (17 September 2016 - 02:03 PM) They got rid of their OC after their defense was ripped apart
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:03 PM) Well hell that makes even less sense. The defense gets ripped apart so let's get rid of the oc instead of the dc.they didn't have much of a run game but a lot of passes yards. If they wanted to blame anyone for nearly 40 points against them it was their defense. But guess Rex used the ocean as the scale goat instead of his brother
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:04 PM) Oc not ocean. Damn Auto correct on phone
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:04 PM) And scape goatee
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:05 PM) Lol still can't get it right
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:13 PM) Not sure about anyone else but I'm extremely interested in the 49r/ Panther game at 1pm. Just want to see if the 49rs are actually good this year or if the Rams have become one of the worst teams in the league this year
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:16 PM) If the Rams have regressed that much then all the Todd Gurley owners in fantasy will likely have low points from him all year. Might even be worth trying to trade him early if they look just as bad this week before his stock drops
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:26 PM) I drafted him last year and also had David Johnson, Chris Johnson, Roetlesburger, Romo, Palmer, Barnage,, .....my whole team was stacked with starters. Entire team wasc stacked with starters. Even bench. Made tge Superbowl but did have a rough start at behinning of season when Romo and Roethlisberger wentvdown at the start of season also lost amazing starting rb and wr all within the 1st 4 games but worked the waivers really well..shut out until garbage time by a team that was terrible last year
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:28 PM) Last part meant Rams were shut out entire game even in garbage time against 49r backups
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:29 PM) Sorry about typos. Hard to type on small phone screen
MikeGangGree... Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:00 PM) This is why I'm glad Rex is gone. Fire the OC after the D gives up 500 yards??
MikeGangGree... Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:01 PM) UPDATE THE UPDATE!!!!
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:25 PM) Yep Rex isn't a bad coach but he needs to have all player and coach decisions as far as firing and hiring taken out of his hands. His problem is he doesn't know to separate the job from loyalty to players and is unable to let underperforming players go
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:27 PM) He was great as a DC because he wasn't in charge of roster and firing decisions. He will never make it as a good head coach until he can get rid of loyalty and run a team like any boss runs a business.
azjetfan Icon : (17 September 2016 - 07:16 PM) I loved Rex as a person. But he is severely handicapped in his skill set as a HC. He has not adapted and will not adapt. That's why he isn't here and will be fired from Buffalo.
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:05 AM) It's all guessing and I will like likely stick with my two starters that are injured and playing but D.Thomas looks like he is still in a lot of pain and Stewart is still in the locker room getting ankle treatment so both could be on a snap count
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:06 AM) I have good wr's on bench and good rb's on bench but they have bad matchups. Do t trust Diggs against Greenbay or Doug Martin against Arizona both on bench
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:08 AM) If I made changes I have Crabtree for Oakland Aagainst Atlanta and Abdullah for Detroit against 49rs as my two options I would choose if I made any changes
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:10 AM) Actually have it backwards with my running back teams
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:12 AM) Detroit vs Titans who I believe has a legit defense. Panthers have a better team but the ankle for Stewart and both the Titans and 49rs are ranked #1 against the run. Not a believer in the 49rs defensesthough
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:13 AM) Believe the Rams oline just sucks
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:15 AM) Abdullah splits carries but he did get 17 last week and also catches a lot of passes and has a better qb so could exploit the Titans still
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:16 AM) Will most likely do my own thing anyway just looking for input from those that actually study in fantasy if anyone feels like offering their opinions. If not it's cool too. Thanks
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:18 AM) If not for the injuries to the two players I'd keep them in for sure but all it takes for Thomas is a hit to the hip and a tackle by the ankle for Stewart if they aren't on a snap count already or if pain doesn't get to them.
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 12:45 PM) Well looks like leaving in Stewart was,a,bad move in locker room
MikeGangGree... Icon : (18 September 2016 - 04:54 PM) Good news! Dolphins suck
santana Icon : (19 September 2016 - 08:08 AM) Thanks professor
Jetsfan115 Icon : (23 September 2016 - 03:55 PM) updated roster. FB howsare released, TE bowman added to roster
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Today, 10:09 AM) BREAKING NEWS: Santana is a jinx during JETS games
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Posted 15 July 2005 - 03:35 PM

uuummm...JetsOn......QUIT IT!!!

You're still fighting with yourself!
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Posted 15 July 2005 - 03:38 PM

Before I go just wanted to point out how you left out the part that says Belichick is still there, he is more important than the coordinators so he will keep them from collapsing into a 6-10 team. And I would not be shocked to see them atop the AFC again. Yes the team has changed my point was that Belichick will keep them a contender. Once again both of us are stating opinions. Not facts. The season is coming. Time will tell. Go Jets. I'm out.
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Posted 15 July 2005 - 03:39 PM

Why dont you try to mind your own business? I have nothing to say to you Miami. And your real cute to purposely misspell my ID. You are real cool bud.
I already explained what my purpose was and you have no say in anything.
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Posted 15 July 2005 - 03:44 PM

Ok, glad I'm cute, but how did I mispell your name? I actually tried to get it right. Or is that a zero? In which case I don't understand your name at all?

This forum is for all of us! It is public right? Well then I do have a say in it, if you wanted a personal *beep*-fight with nightowl pm him, if not, I'm going to give my two cents....it's my opinion! I suggest you learn what that is!
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Posted 15 July 2005 - 03:47 PM

Lowercase j and a zero not an "O".
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Posted 15 July 2005 - 03:50 PM

QUOTE (HurricaneJet32 @ Jul 15 2005, 05:19 PM)
Ok, glad I'm cute, but how did I mispell your name?  I actually tried to get it right.  Or is that a zero?  In which case I don't understand your name at all?

This forum is for all of us!  It is public right?  Well then I do have a say in it, if you wanted a personal *beep*-fight with nightowl pm him, if not, I'm going to give my two cents....it's my opinion!  I suggest you learn what that is!


Very true about a public forum. Wonderful I am glad, then have an opinion on the topic at hand and not on my personality problems. Comment on whether Coaching is important and whether or not losing 2 coordinators will hurt the Patriots. And dont call me names or it will get ugly.
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Posted 15 July 2005 - 03:50 PM

i still don't understand your name?


And you own the name-calling record.


And with that I'm done with this topic, have fun with yourself jets0n
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Posted 15 July 2005 - 03:53 PM

Well I dont know what to tell you.
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Posted 15 July 2005 - 03:55 PM

QUOTE (HurricaneJet32 @ Jul 15 2005, 05:25 PM)
i still don't understand your name?
And you own the name-calling record.
And with that I'm done with this topic, have fun with yourself jets0n


Real cool bud. Thanks for being so cool, I bet you really scored points with everyone showing how cool you are. You can be a little pissy girl because I refused to aknowledge you as a participant in what is being said here. I dont mind.
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Posted 15 July 2005 - 04:03 PM

I still dont understand how coaching is important, yet since Belichick [ owning 5 rings ] is the exception to the rule. Last time I checked there was a coaching staff and OC and DC's. Each is responsible for their side of the football. Offensive Coordinator runs the offense and Defensive Coordinator runs the defense. That's how it works. Sorry to dissapoint, but Belichick doesnt call the offense regardless of how much you are in love with him. Otherwise he would be like Brian Billick and wouldn't have hired an OC at all. But Billick obviously knows that you can't do both successfully which is why he hired Fasell as an OC to run the offense.

Now I did say that occasionally Head Coaches will veto what a Coordinator is doing, but that doesn't mean they are running the offense. So losing Coordinators on both sides of the ball WILL have an effect on a team.

Hence, that's why we went from horrible on defense to great on defense in 1 season after hiring Donnie Henderson. That's why we are expecting to go from inept on offense to great and explosive in the hiring of Dinger.

I can't believe I had to explain this so many times.
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Posted 15 July 2005 - 04:22 PM

By the way, if this was only about one man stating his opinion then why were mine and others opinions attacked? Go to page 1 that's where this all started. I was told my posts weren't rational. So in actuality, when they got proved wrong they turned it on me and said I was forcing my opinion on them, which wouldn't have happened if I wasn't spoken of this way:

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Make a rational point and I'll respond in a rational manner. But it's not a one way street.


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Its post like that, that make people on this site look dumb


So let me ask you, who was being attacked for their opinion? All I did was defend myself with logical questions and once they figured out that I had made them look like a fool on losing 1 player rather than losing coordinators then they wouldn't answer my questions anymore. Then I was told I need "anger management" and that I am forcing my opinions on people when I was merely defending myself for being called stupid and irrational. So incase people like HurricaneJet32 want to jump into something and start pointing fingers when they dont know they situation I have outlined it completely. That's all ... I am done with this.
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Posted 15 July 2005 - 07:45 PM

Holy cow jets0n (I.m scared to spell it wrong now) I haven't seen you this wound up since...well, since I first got on the board and did it. I'm always nervous when I get on after not being on for a day and their is a 3+ page thread, I should learn to just skip them.

Well, well...all right. NE lost their coordinators, both talented guys that were arguably the best at their position. Anyone that comes in to fill in for someone that is one of the very best at what they do is going to be a downgrade, at least to some extent. Still (and if someone has said this, forgive me, because I skimmed after mouthes started frothing over), Eric Mangini is a hot coaching prospect that teams have showed a real interest in over the last few years. Can he replace Crennel? Probably not, and certainly not right away.

Now, I don't really get what is going on with the OC...why exactly that isn't getting addressed and what exactly Belichick will be doing offensivly. So to me, yes, that is an area of concern. But, I don't think there are many teams in the league (history) with an offense that has won three Super Bowls, and I can't ignore any offense with two HoF players and a SB MVP on it.

So to sum it up, the NE Patriots have suffered two (potentially three) big hits this offseason. Weis left, Crennel left, and Bruschi may miss the season. As I already said, Mangini should keep the defense from dropping off (especially still having some very nice talent in it).
To me, the Patriots are going to drop off some, it is hard to imagine them not, but what is a realistic fall? They still have talent all around, a coach who (whatever anyone says) has taken three teams to the promised land, and have all that experience spread around. I've said this time and time again, the Patriots are still a solid contender for the playoffs, and a team with this much playoff experience and tested players is doubly dangerous come the postseason. As far as I'm concerned, the Patriots have to be exposed thourghly and fully before I am ready to discount them.
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Posted 16 July 2005 - 12:48 AM

LOL ... please dont tell me it was over Mike Vick that you last saw me riled up cause that is a sore subject as well. All I want is for people to give credit where credit is due, and it's not fair that Romeo and Charlie get looked at by some as pawns to Belichick when they are the ones that made HIM famous not the other way around. That's all. I agree though I did get really heated but only after others on this board as well as myself ( notice how I mentioned others first ) were critisized for thinking anything bad about the Pats. I am sick of hearing about them and as a FOOTBALL fan I see the Pats in trouble, not as a Jets fan. But yeah I sure was pissed about it and sort of still am which is why I am on here at 1:37AM.

I guess I got carried away at being called irrational and illogical and stupid from people who aren't even involved in 3/4 of what goes on here on NYJetsFan.com.

By the way, dont read this the wrong way, I am in NO WAY apologizing to anyone. Those guys know shit about football and I intended to prove it by pressing them for a response which they continually dodged by resorting to name calling. I know I told them they were stupid but atleast I gave them a way to prove why they weren't and they wouldn't. All they told me was I was stupid and needed anger management. What kind of football talk is that? I just wasn't gonna let them off until they proved that they contradicted themselves especially after insulting me and Herminator and Loco.

You know what I am talking about a1elbow.
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Posted 16 July 2005 - 01:48 AM

QUOTE (jets0n @ Jul 16 2005, 02:23 AM)
LOL ... please dont tell me it was over Mike Vick that you last saw me riled up cause that is a sore subject as well. All I want is for people to give credit where credit is due, and it's not fair that Romeo and Charlie get looked at by some as pawns to Belichick when they are the ones that made HIM famous not the other way around. That's all. I agree though I did get really heated but only after others on this board as well as myself ( notice how I mentioned others first ) were critisized for thinking anything bad about the Pats. I am sick of hearing about them and as a FOOTBALL fan I see the Pats in trouble, not as a Jets fan. But yeah I sure was pissed about it and sort of still am which is why I am on here at 1:37AM.

I guess I got carried away at being called irrational and illogical and stupid from people who aren't even involved in 3/4 of what goes on here on NYJetsFan.com.

By the way, dont read this the wrong way, I am in NO WAY apologizing to anyone. Those guys know shit about football and I intended to prove it by pressing them for a response which they continually dodged by resorting to name calling. I know I told them they were stupid but atleast I gave them a way to prove why they weren't and they wouldn't. All they told me was I was stupid and needed anger management. What kind of football talk is that? I just wasn't gonna let them off until they proved that they contradicted themselves especially after insulting me and Herminator and Loco.

You know what I am talking about a1elbow.

This is the most bizarre thread I've ever seen. You just can't leave it alone. Here you are back again in the middle of the night still repeating your mantra over and over and over and over and aiming more vitriol my way. There's obviously something about Belichick, me or both that really sets you off to continue this long. Do you really expect to "convert" me to your way of thinking somehow? How could you possibly think that? You lost me somewhere around the time you started calling me lots of not so nice names simply because I happen to disagree with you. Well in a public forum that's just too bad. Football is a passion for me as well as you but I know where to draw the line, say we agree to disagree and move on. Everyone else has also been trying to tell you that this thread should have been over about 40 posts ago. Your response? You turned on your own fellow Jets fans and started calling them all names as well. What did you think you could possibly gain from all of this? This is supposed to be just a FUN DIVERSION where football fans can exchange ideas--everyone's ideas. Is that not the point? Here's a solution--just put me on ignore and I can't bother you and we'll both be happy. Fair enough?
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Posted 16 July 2005 - 08:29 AM

Not an option. I gave you the solution already, watch how you talk to people on here otherwise this will be a common occurrence. Dont critisize my posts or others on here and I wont vehemently set out to make you look like a little school girl when it comes to football. End of story. wink.gif
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Posted 16 July 2005 - 09:03 AM

guys this is now the premier board going! Do we need these kind of battles? I suggest that you both go private and argue there. There is room for a difference of opinion on this board in my opinion. There is also room for civility and respect for each other's right to an opinion without rancor!
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Posted 16 July 2005 - 11:30 AM

QUOTE (jets0n @ Jul 16 2005, 10:04 AM)
Not an option. I gave you the solution already, watch how you talk to people on here otherwise this will be a common occurrence. Dont critisize my posts or others on here and I wont vehemently set out to make you look like a little school girl when it comes to football. End of story. wink.gif

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Posted 16 July 2005 - 11:37 AM

I am here now, you may continue.
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Posted 16 July 2005 - 12:02 PM

QUOTE (jets0n @ Jul 16 2005, 12:23 AM)
You know what I am talking about a1elbow.


Having been on the other side of the fence with you several times (although I doubt it was about Vick, I'm usually pretty down on him too), I do know what you are talking about.

Really though, I think you and Nightowl are two of the more knowledgeable members on the site and your not as far apart on this argument as it seems. Early bad blood probably kept you guys from seeing seach other's points at the start.


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Posted 17 July 2005 - 08:25 AM

QUOTE (nightowl @ Jul 15 2005, 01:14 PM)
I could defend this post but instead I'll just say you're absolutely right. No doubt about it. The Patriots are in total disarray and Belichick cries in his office every night because Charlie knew where to get really good pizza. The pressure of Super Bowls was nothing compared to Brady's calling a few audibles this year and he'll suffer a nervous breakdown right on the field. Bruschi is absolutely gone for the season.  All of the workouts, running and classroom work he's doing are nothing more than a smokescreen. Belichick has been living a lie all of these years as well. He has never drawn up a game plan or actually overruled Charlie Weis on a playcall and will be exposed as a coaching "lightweight". The stories Roger Staubach has told of an 11 year old Belichick studying film for him at Navy looking for opposition tendencies--all lies. All of this makes the Jets now a prohibitive favorite to go to Detroit.  Now can I be an honorary Jets fan?



Finally a Pats fan that talks some sense ..of corse you can be a Jets fan .. we'll even help you burn all that pesky Patsies stuff you've got hanging around :toungue:


seriously though I'm gonna lock this topic before it gets any worse .. although it seems to have died down a bit

Im not choosing sides or saying who is right or wrong .. because after page 3 of this topic my head felt like it was gonna explode and Ive just skipped to the end

Id like to see us keep arguments on the subject of football and not go after each other personally .. hey nobody hates the pats more than me .. but as memebrs of a FOOTBALL ALLIANCE nyjetsfan.com members should know that fans of all teams are welcome here .. and there will be PLENTY as the season starts .. we had them last year and aside from the steelers crew we managed to have a pretty good time of it .. lets try to keep it sociable in here


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