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Jetsfan0099 Icon : (18 August 2014 - 03:51 PM) Milliner did suffer a high ankle sprain, that sucks. could linger all year
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (18 August 2014 - 03:52 PM) I think Patterson sucked vs the Colts because he was injured, which he always is.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 06:49 PM) As much as people criticized Tannanbaum for spending too much. It's starting to look like Idzik is going to be too cheap.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 06:52 PM) You get what you pay for and when you let quality players go because you don't want to pay them, this is what happens. You're left with scrub players.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 07:55 PM) I'm still on board with the Idzik plan. Even with Revis and Revis we still are not going to the SB this year. But the down time sucks. If Milliner comes back healthy by week 3 or so we should be fine.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 08:18 PM) Regardless of our SB chances this year or next year. If Idzik keeps acting like a cheapskate and continues to let quality players go, we won't have to worry about winning much of anything this decade.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 09:36 PM) He wants to build through the draft. Not blow the bank on FA. I get what your saying but there is a balance and right now we are not one or two pieces away.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 11:00 PM) It's not about being one or two pieces away. It's about keeping the good pieces you have and building upon that.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 11:04 PM) But there is no sense in trying to build through the draft if he's only going to end up letting the good players he picks up go in FA after a few years. All because he wants to do things on the cheap.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:02 AM) FIRE IDZIK
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:33 AM) out side of Revis who left we should have kept?
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:34 AM) The Revis deal sucks but $16 million was too much for a CB and once he was gone he was not coming back.
Mr_Jet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 11:00 AM) Matt Slauson
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 01:00 PM) Eh. I think with our current cap situation we will be able to retain guys like Wilkerson and whomever we want to keep. We are in a good position right now.
Mr_Jet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 01:49 PM) Time will tell.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 02:00 PM) landed revis abck. got DRC, nope we take patterson who got owned and always hurt. milner always hurt. 3rd round CB done for season. were gonna get passed on all day
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 02:44 PM) Yea the DRC bit makes me iffy
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 03:35 PM) better then patterson
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 05:45 PM) No I mean the fact that he whiffed on him.
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 05:46 PM) I'm not saying Idzik is perfect. I just like the direction we are heading. It's going to take some patience.
RetireChrebet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:27 PM) I like how our lack of secondary is the hot topic right now. The bigger issue is we still will not be able to throw the ball. We are not going to do much of anything regardless until we get a QB. Sorry for being so negative just my honest opinion.
RetireChrebet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:29 PM) With that said I think our running game with CJ and Powell will be top 10 or somewhere around there
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:35 PM) i have faith that if geno messes up that vick can come in and do well. but i have 0 faith in our secondary right now which has been our strong point for the past 4 years or so
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:35 PM) I agree 115. but the one thing is Rex has done some good things in the past with shitty DBs and still had a solid D going back to his years in BAL
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:37 PM) Corey Ivy CB
36 Jim Leonhard SS/PR
43 Haruki Nakamura FS
25 Evan Oglesby CB
20 Ed Reed FS
22 Samari Rolle CB
39 Daren Stone FS
41 Frank Walker CB
31 Fabian Washington in 2008
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:39 PM) Reed is a HOF but Rolle was way past his prime
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:41 PM) SNOOPY BOWL FRIDAY!!!
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:41 PM) WOOOOOOOOOOOOO
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:26 PM) I assume we will pick up a guy after the cuts happen.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 10:14 PM) we'll see but I think we see better QB play than we have in a while.
518-JeTS-FaN Icon : (20 August 2014 - 08:54 AM) disgusted with my local programming, instead of jets and giants they are airing the raiders vs packers..wtf
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (20 August 2014 - 09:23 AM) Glad I don't live up there anymore haha
ganggreen2003 Icon : (20 August 2014 - 06:59 PM) The JETS are #6 in the Forbes List for most franchise value
ganggreen2003 Icon : (20 August 2014 - 06:59 PM) The Buffalo Jills are #31 and the Miami Dolphags are #16 respectively
ganggreen2003 Icon : (20 August 2014 - 07:00 PM) The JETS are worth $1.8 billion
jet-man Icon : (20 August 2014 - 10:03 PM) that's less than the clippers
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Yesterday, 01:07 PM) I'm very excited with the amount of preseason touchdowns the Jets have
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 03:21 PM) FIRE IDZIK
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 07:22 PM) Calvin Pryor and Darrin Walls will start tomorrow
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 08:52 PM) The SIMPSONS MARATHON has been on for almost 12 hours...
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 08:57 PM) Sanchez looks so much more confident and better in Chip's offense than he did with us
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 09:50 PM) EVERY SIMPSONS EVER!!!!!
2JBallar01 Icon : (Today, 07:10 AM) Sanchez is looking good for the eagles. Crazy how a good offense and the right system can make you look so much better. When you're put into a situatuon to succeed, magic happens. Happy for Sanchez, i think he needed a change just as much as the Jets did.
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Today, 08:02 AM) Preseason doesn't matter at all
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Today, 11:10 AM) anyone have a stream for the preseaosn agme by chance?
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Posted 15 July 2005 - 12:50 PM

QUOTE (jets0n @ Jul 15 2005, 02:22 PM)
Now you are winking at me like you got me riled up or something? I told you go after Billy the Queer not me. And of course I needed to set you straight cause you think you can attack our knowledge of football because you are a Pats fan and you are in denial.

I certainly can attack your knowledge of the Patriots.
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Posted 15 July 2005 - 12:51 PM

QUOTE (jets0n @ Jul 15 2005, 02:22 PM)
Now you are winking at me like you got me riled up or something? I told you go after Billy the Queer not me. And of course I needed to set you straight cause you think you can attack our knowledge of football because you are a Pats fan and you are in denial.

I can certainly attack your knowledge concerning the Patriots.
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Posted 15 July 2005 - 12:52 PM

Yeah well you haven't done it yet because you some how feel that coaching isn't a big deal yet you think your coach can do anything so yet coaching is everything at the same time so which one is it?
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Posted 15 July 2005 - 12:53 PM

Belichick is right now the best coach in the NFL, can we stop attacking him just cause he stood up the Jets?
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Posted 15 July 2005 - 12:56 PM

No because everyone wants to give all the credit to the guy in charge and no credit to the Coordinators.

Let me ask you something, who is responsible for our Defense? Herm or Donnie? Exactly what I thought. It's the Head Coaches job to hire the right people and manage situations but its the coordinators job to call the right plays and coach his side of the ball, be it personelle or playcalling.
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Posted 15 July 2005 - 12:57 PM

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Yeah well you haven't done it yet because you some how feel that coaching isn't a big deal yet you think your coach can do anything so yet coaching is everything at the same time so which one is it?

The Patriots have a great head coach. The Jets have great coordinators. No coordinator has ever told Belichick how to run his team and that's why he'll be fine. He was always in charge before and is now. If you're paying close attention to the Patriots, you'd be focusing much more on the Bruschi situation which is still unresolved. Bruschi's loss WOULD be a big deal to the D and could potentially affect the Patriots much more than the playcalling situation will.
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Posted 15 July 2005 - 12:58 PM

Ok so Donnie has all the credit for defense, Hackett all his fault for offense, what exactly was Herm doin? And don't say managing the clock.
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Posted 15 July 2005 - 12:58 PM

That is probably the DUMBEST statement I have ever heard from anyone "claiming" to have football knowledge. You are telling me that losing 1 guy on Defense is more detrimental then losing the guy that tells your 1 guy what to play? Where is your superior logic and reasoning abilities?
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Posted 15 July 2005 - 01:03 PM

QUOTE (NYJBlueHen @ Jul 15 2005, 02:33 PM)
Ok so Donnie has all the credit for defense, Hackett all his fault for offense, what exactly was Herm doin? And don't say managing the clock.



I already addressed that, Herm's job is to manage the situations and boost player morale, get the most out of his players, etc...

If you think that the head coach calls the plays and this and that you are mistaken. They delegate those responsibilities to Coordinators and sometimes they will veto their opinion. Does the President deal with all the issues of government? If so why have a House of Reps or a Senate or a Court system? The President hires people when he gets elected to do certain jobs, like Secretary of Defense. Same thing with the head coach.
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Posted 15 July 2005 - 01:03 PM

QUOTE (jets0n @ Jul 15 2005, 02:31 PM)
No because everyone wants to give all the credit to the guy in charge and no credit to the Coordinators.

Let me ask you something, who is responsible for our Defense? Herm or Donnie? Exactly what I thought. It's the Head Coaches job to hire the right people and manage situations but its the coordinators job to call the right plays and coach his side of the ball, be it personelle or playcalling.

That's the way it works in New York and with many other teams. It's not the way it works in New England and never has. Belichick always works on the game plans. The coordinators call the routine plays but on third downs and other critical plays, The coordinators would check with Belichick first.
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Posted 15 July 2005 - 01:07 PM

QUOTE (jets0n @ Jul 15 2005, 02:33 PM)
That is probably the DUMBEST statement I have ever heard from anyone "claiming" to have football knowledge. You are telling me that losing 1 guy on Defense is more detrimental then losing the guy that tells your 1 guy what to play? Where is your superior logic and reasoning abilities?

It only sounds dumb because you may know the Jets but when it comes to the Patriots you don't know what you don't know.
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Posted 15 July 2005 - 01:10 PM

Yes I know how football coaches work, but thanks for that little lesson, but Head Coaches has the final say and are responsible for the whole team. And Belichick clearly takes on more duties then most. Just accept that he is a great coach, it doesn't make you any less of a Jet fan. Intelligent fans give respect where respect is due. 3 rings earn my respect.
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Posted 15 July 2005 - 01:13 PM

You didn't answer my question, in fact you dodged right over it so I will ask it again:

You feel that coaching isn't important because the Coordinators [ because of your personal conversations w/ Billy and cause you are at the practices and so forth ] dont do anything but what Belichick tells them to do and your head coach is the best coach to ever live because of his superior coaching skills and he is all you need. Well some people said that about Joe Gibbs, Marty, and a few others and those guys have more talent on their teams than the Pats do, so why are they not there? Because they dont have good Coordinators and this exposes them as not actually being the geniuses everyone thought them to be.

So what is it: Coaching is important, or coaching doesn't mean anything at all? Cause you can't have it both ways. You have to admit it sooner or later that Coordinators are a MAJOR part of how a team operates and that by losing your Coordinators you aren't the same Patriots.
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Posted 15 July 2005 - 01:15 PM

I have respect for what he has done, however I respect his Coordinators which YOU wont do. Neither one of you infact will give credit where credit is due so dont give me your "little lessons".
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Posted 15 July 2005 - 01:21 PM

Nightowl, I didn't disappear from a thread. Just didn't keep up with it. I am a very busy man running a business and can't really keep up with all the responses in threads. To be honest, I can't believe I'm even engaging with a fan from another team on a Jets forum.
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Posted 15 July 2005 - 01:23 PM

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Nightowl, I didn't disappear from a thread.  Just didn't keep up with it.  I am a very busy man running a business and can't really keep up with all the responses in threads.  To be honest, I can't believe I'm even engaging with a fan from another team on a Jets forum.


Exactly ... they come in here cause they are scared of the Jets. They have been taught by the media that the Jets suck, no dont worry about the Jets, yet we were 2 f'ked up kicks from playing the Pats and I bet we wouldve won that game due to all the momentum we would've had. Playing games that were important and winning them in OT and such and just battling it out. We had amazing confidence and momentum and Pats fans fear us for that cause our team is still intact and infact got better with hiring the most successful OC in the league.
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Posted 15 July 2005 - 01:25 PM

And there team did nothing but lose a whole bunch, but it doesn't matter. They could have the Dolphins team playing for Belicheck and they will win a Superbowl, right?
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Posted 15 July 2005 - 01:28 PM

QUOTE (jets0n @ Jul 15 2005, 02:48 PM)
You didn't answer my question, in fact you dodged right over it so I will ask it again:

You feel that coaching isn't important because the Coordinators [ because of your personal conversations w/ Billy and cause you are at the practices and so forth ] dont do anything but what Belichick tells them to do and your head coach is the best coach to ever live because of his superior coaching skills and he is all you need. Well some people said that about Joe Gibbs, Marty, and a few others and those guys have more talent on their teams than the Pats do, so why are they not there? Because they dont have good Coordinators and this exposes them as not actually being the geniuses everyone thought them to be.

So what is it: Coaching is important, or coaching doesn't mean anything at all? Cause you can't have it both ways. You have to admit it sooner or later that Coordinators are a MAJOR part of how a team operates and that by losing your Coordinators you aren't the same Patriots.

You're hatred of all things Belichick (and quite possibly me as well) is showing because now you're rambling. To be honest I don't have the slightest idea of what you're trying to say in this post. Care to rephrase?
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Posted 15 July 2005 - 01:30 PM

QUOTE (jets0n @ Jul 15 2005, 02:58 PM)
Exactly ... they come in here cause they are scared of the Jets. They have been taught by the media that the Jets suck, no dont worry about the Jets, yet we were 2 f'ked up kicks from playing the Pats and I bet we wouldve won that game due to all the momentum we would've had. Playing games that were important and winning them in OT and such and just battling it out. We had amazing confidence and momentum and Pats fans fear us for that cause our team is still intact and infact got better with hiring the most successful OC in the league.

That is out and out funny. You DO remember what happened in week 15, don't you?
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Posted 15 July 2005 - 01:31 PM

Oh my god you are dumb so I will quote myself again:

QUOTE (For the idiot Pats fan)
Yeah well you haven't done it yet because you some how feel that coaching isn't a big deal yet you think your coach can do anything so yet coaching is everything at the same time so which one is it?


If you can't understand this then I am going to end all converstation with you.
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