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ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:26 AM) The offensive line stepped off after Hughes got hurt for however long he was out. I don't blame J. Marsh for that fumble because that was just a hell of a play. Imo Fitz had a career best game even with only 1 td passing. Never seen him so accurate. So yeah when I meant ugly I meant dline penetration and the 1st two drives ending up in fieldgoals
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:30 AM) But 31 points given up passing by the defense passing was bad. It wasn't just 2 long bombs and that defensive touchdown leading to 21 points. 3q1 against a bad team was terrible for the defense. Without the offense putting up 37 the Jets,would have lost so yeah I consider it an ugly start on both ends
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:32 AM) I'm glad like everyone else that the Jets won. Especially with getting with by the Bills multiple times it was nice revenge.
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:34 AM) Just saying that the Bills look like a bad team this year and the Jets have to face a lot of teams that are probably playoff bound again so yes there is a lot of concern
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 11:39 AM) fitz look good and lets not forget the 50+ yarder to decker that was called back on a BS holding penalty. plus if you rewatch it, the jets d-line was getting held like crazy and never got calls. I seen McLendon, williams, and wilk all complaining about it
azjetfan Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:32 PM) I think the game plan for the D was to keep Taylor in the pocker
azjetfan Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:33 PM) They didn't want him running around when they only rushed 3-4 guts
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:37 PM) bills fired their OC today after the loss yesterday lol
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:38 PM) yeah we didn't really rush, we just tried to keep contain on the outside and collapse the middle
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:38 PM) on the salas TD, one of our LBers went for the sack and broke contain and pryor got away and made the play
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:39 PM) when we did rush which was rare, we had a spy
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 11:11 PM) As far as the Bills firing the oc I'm not sure I agree with it with Watkins having major foot problem with a steel rod in his surgically repaired foot but I dont follow the Bills so cant really say. I do think they need to get rid of Rob Ryan though. He had a decent year with the Browns then was terrible with the Cowboys and Saints. He isn't half the DC that Rex is. I still think Rex can be a good head coach withe the right coaches and roster but Rob Ryan isn't the answer. But if Rex wants to ruin his chance of staying a head coach by keeping his brother on the coaching staff like he ruined his head coaching job keeping Sanchez as a starter then that's his stupidity
ganggreen2003 Icon : (17 September 2016 - 12:20 AM) The A Football Life of Curtis Martin is a MUST WATCH!!!!
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (17 September 2016 - 02:03 PM) They got rid of their OC after their defense was ripped apart
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:03 PM) Well hell that makes even less sense. The defense gets ripped apart so let's get rid of the oc instead of the dc.they didn't have much of a run game but a lot of passes yards. If they wanted to blame anyone for nearly 40 points against them it was their defense. But guess Rex used the ocean as the scale goat instead of his brother
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:04 PM) Oc not ocean. Damn Auto correct on phone
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:04 PM) And scape goatee
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:05 PM) Lol still can't get it right
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:13 PM) Not sure about anyone else but I'm extremely interested in the 49r/ Panther game at 1pm. Just want to see if the 49rs are actually good this year or if the Rams have become one of the worst teams in the league this year
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:16 PM) If the Rams have regressed that much then all the Todd Gurley owners in fantasy will likely have low points from him all year. Might even be worth trying to trade him early if they look just as bad this week before his stock drops
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:26 PM) I drafted him last year and also had David Johnson, Chris Johnson, Roetlesburger, Romo, Palmer, Barnage,, .....my whole team was stacked with starters. Entire team wasc stacked with starters. Even bench. Made tge Superbowl but did have a rough start at behinning of season when Romo and Roethlisberger wentvdown at the start of season also lost amazing starting rb and wr all within the 1st 4 games but worked the waivers really well..shut out until garbage time by a team that was terrible last year
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:28 PM) Last part meant Rams were shut out entire game even in garbage time against 49r backups
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:29 PM) Sorry about typos. Hard to type on small phone screen
MikeGangGree... Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:00 PM) This is why I'm glad Rex is gone. Fire the OC after the D gives up 500 yards??
MikeGangGree... Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:01 PM) UPDATE THE UPDATE!!!!
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:25 PM) Yep Rex isn't a bad coach but he needs to have all player and coach decisions as far as firing and hiring taken out of his hands. His problem is he doesn't know to separate the job from loyalty to players and is unable to let underperforming players go
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:27 PM) He was great as a DC because he wasn't in charge of roster and firing decisions. He will never make it as a good head coach until he can get rid of loyalty and run a team like any boss runs a business.
azjetfan Icon : (17 September 2016 - 07:16 PM) I loved Rex as a person. But he is severely handicapped in his skill set as a HC. He has not adapted and will not adapt. That's why he isn't here and will be fired from Buffalo.
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:05 AM) It's all guessing and I will like likely stick with my two starters that are injured and playing but D.Thomas looks like he is still in a lot of pain and Stewart is still in the locker room getting ankle treatment so both could be on a snap count
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:06 AM) I have good wr's on bench and good rb's on bench but they have bad matchups. Do t trust Diggs against Greenbay or Doug Martin against Arizona both on bench
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:08 AM) If I made changes I have Crabtree for Oakland Aagainst Atlanta and Abdullah for Detroit against 49rs as my two options I would choose if I made any changes
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:10 AM) Actually have it backwards with my running back teams
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:12 AM) Detroit vs Titans who I believe has a legit defense. Panthers have a better team but the ankle for Stewart and both the Titans and 49rs are ranked #1 against the run. Not a believer in the 49rs defensesthough
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:13 AM) Believe the Rams oline just sucks
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:15 AM) Abdullah splits carries but he did get 17 last week and also catches a lot of passes and has a better qb so could exploit the Titans still
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:16 AM) Will most likely do my own thing anyway just looking for input from those that actually study in fantasy if anyone feels like offering their opinions. If not it's cool too. Thanks
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:18 AM) If not for the injuries to the two players I'd keep them in for sure but all it takes for Thomas is a hit to the hip and a tackle by the ankle for Stewart if they aren't on a snap count already or if pain doesn't get to them.
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 12:45 PM) Well looks like leaving in Stewart was,a,bad move in locker room
MikeGangGree... Icon : (18 September 2016 - 04:54 PM) Good news! Dolphins suck
santana Icon : (19 September 2016 - 08:08 AM) Thanks professor
Jetsfan115 Icon : (23 September 2016 - 03:55 PM) updated roster. FB howsare released, TE bowman added to roster
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Today, 10:09 AM) BREAKING NEWS: Santana is a jinx during JETS games
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Today, 11:40 AM) HUGE game today
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Today, 11:40 AM) Santana PLEASE refrain from entering the BanterBox cause you are a JINX
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Today, 01:48 PM) JETS wear the WHITE Jersey today
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Posted 22 June 2005 - 10:42 AM

QUOTE (Jetsfan115 @ Jun 22 2005, 02:30 PM)
the franchise in 2k5 was way better. 2K can't make games anymore because maden paid big time money to buy out the NFL license. it had nothing to do with quality. donald trump could have bought it and made his own game and madden would be no more


In the bold print, thanks for the joke, I really did need a laugh. Thanks. There is no way 2K has a better franchise then Madden. 2K has no chance of wining in that category, not a shot. Donald Trump would not buy a football game, lol. Madden is still better then 2kK, for sure. There is only one game that is, and ever was better then EA Sports Madden, and thats Tecmo Superbowl, I am sure everyone would agree with me on that one.
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Posted 22 June 2005 - 11:29 AM

no way the madden mode was so stupid the OXM made fun of it along with other websites. He said he benched vick to se what would happen and screwed up his whole franchise because vick demanded to be traded and it killed his cap. it also said fabini wanted like 8 mil a year from him then signed with another team for 2. 2K5 gave features like they talked about rookies during the season then you have to go to the combine and scout players which makes it more realistic then gettting a projected rating like madden gives. Also it allows you to set up meeting and workouts and filter them to a postion to improve them before a gaem for instace you can really work your Cbs hard befor a game with the rams and boost them up a few points for the week but if you overwork them they'll lose a few points. i bet u never even pplayed 2k5 to think that. madden knew it was better that why they bought out the competition. every year 2k series cut more and more into the madden sales
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Posted 22 June 2005 - 11:45 AM

QUOTE (Jetsfan115 @ Jun 22 2005, 05:04 PM)
no way the madden mode was so stupid the OXM made fun of it along with other websites. He said he benched vick to se what would happen and screwed up his whole franchise because vick demanded to be traded and it killed his cap. it also said fabini wanted like 8 mil a year from him then signed with another team for 2. 2K5 gave features like they talked about rookies during the season then you have to go to the combine and scout players which makes it more realistic then gettting a projected rating like madden gives. Also it allows you to set up meeting and workouts and filter them to a postion to improve them before a gaem for instace you can really work your Cbs hard befor a game with the rams and boost them up a few points for the week but if you overwork them they'll lose a few points. i bet u never even pplayed 2k5 to think that. madden knew it was better that why they bought out the competition. every year 2k series cut more and more into the madden sales


Oh yeah and what were the rookies names in the ESPN game? All these names that are NOT in college football. In Madden all you have to do is put them into it. I know the players have no names but, I know someone who could get me them all. Then I get all these real players, while 2k gets all these fake players. Now... what would you rather have? real or fake? Obviously real would have to be the choice. Combine, and stuff does not make a game more realistic, you are just sayinh you'd rather sim a game in franchise, then play it. Yeah, and remind me how is 2k gonna do this year in cutting Madden's sales?
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Posted 22 June 2005 - 12:13 PM

You can’t rate real college players of akili smith and tim couch would be 90+. You can’t tell how the’ll do in the NFL. Plus the fact that the players get names and faces is better then a number and a blacked out face with a bogus rating. I used to like madden since 93 on sega genisys but in 2k3 I though they were both even games then after 2k4 I kicked madden out the door and moved on. Until now.
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You can’t rate real college players of akili smith and tim couch would be 90+. You can’t tell how the’ll do in the NFL. Plus the fact that the players get names and faces is better then a number and a blacked out face with a bogus rating. I used to like madden since 93 on sega genisys but in 2k3 I though they were both even games then after 2k4 I kicked madden out the door and moved on. Until now.


Yeah, and now your gonna have to buy Madden, if you want a real football game, so face the facts... Madden wins...
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Posted 22 June 2005 - 12:36 PM

So they bought a fan base whats your point. Real gamers know whats up. Money doesn’t make u the best and never will.
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QUOTE (Jetsfan115 @ Jun 22 2005, 06:11 PM)
So they bought a fan base whats your point. Real gamers know whats up. Money doesn’t make u the best and never will.


Unless the games name is Madden, and has been on top of the world of Football gaming since the early 90's. Madden has as much as it's fans because it has been here for along time, and it was like the only football game going around, other then gameday, and well gameday has always sucked, except for '98.

Also, I like this little video game discussion we are having...
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Posted 22 June 2005 - 01:05 PM

That’s exactly why. I agree with you 100% madden was good ( I loved madden 96 for PS1, its one of my all time favs) but since 2002 its kinda sucked. I have madden 03 and 04 on my modded xbox and they don’t compare to the 2k series. 2K5 is the best football game of all time. I also loved NFL football for the super Nintendo. And the mutant league one was fun for sega. You could actually bribe the ref. anyway madden built a fan base so its hard for a new guy to step in. its the only reason it sells so much
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Posted 23 June 2005 - 02:09 PM

Not to go back on old topic, but the rosters and rankings for madden aren't finalized until the first depth charts come out in july. The new feature is gonna be a passing cone to make the game more realistic, and it look 10% harder than 05. To go along with the 2k5 argument, so many people say 2k5 is better, from a game standpoint, but if you look at it it really isn't. The graphics suck, and there is only a limited amount of stuff you can do with the rosters. My brother, ewokentourage, likes 2k5 but he's dumb

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Posted 23 June 2005 - 02:31 PM

Actually u can do a lot more with the rosters and every single game magazine agrees that the graphics are way better (at least on xbox they are). 2K5 was better in every way except madden had better training mode
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Posted 24 June 2005 - 08:19 PM

I played 2k5 (either 02 or 03), and I wasn't too impressed.

THe big thing for me is game physics. In most cases, the "extras" don't even do much. I owned the last Madden, and let me throw out some examples:

1-the Radio
This was really cool, at first. But after a season or so I had heard everything the game had to say and so was forced to listen to it over and over and over.

2-Madden challenge
THis is the worst. If I want to play Blitz, and kick a 90 yard FG or have unlimited pass range, I'll play Blitz.

3-Trades
I was never ONCE offered a trade for players. If I had players on the block, I didn't get offered a trade. I mean literally, never. THe closest thing was in the draft, when I would be offered absurd pick for pick trades (ex: their 2nd and 5th for my 1st).

4-scouting
I thought it was really lame to barely be able to scout anyone. You get three wounds of scouting, where you can scout ten players in each round. TO get any really good info, you have to scout someone in every round, and only scouting someone once gives yo ualmost nothing. Basically, you can scout 10 guys. That is extremly lame.

I could probably come up with more, but I want to get to my real grip abotu football games...

THE PHYSICS SUCK!!!

I expect the game to be harder on the highest levels, but I wish their was one pure middle level game with really good physics. As it stands (and I have owned 2 of the last 3 Maddens), I have CBs with 4 foot verts knocking perfectly thrown balls out of the air, guys with speed in the high 70s catching up to a guy with 95+, or Emmit Smith breaking...SEVEN tackles in one play!*

I have yet to play a football game that has as good of physics as most Basketball, Baseball, or Hockey games. Usually, I think they are really poor, due to the above examples and many more like them. Is Madden the truest football game now? Yes. Is it likely to be representative of the real game? I doubt it.


*(this was an '03 game) Emmit broke through the line, knocking down BOTH my DTs. THen he stiff armed a LB, and broke the tackle of another one. Just then he spun, knocking over a LB (maybe a DB) from behind and a CB coming in front. He had a clear path now, and took off downfield, but another DB came in and tried to tackle him from behind. He hit him, but Emmit highstepped and the DB fell down.

All in all he broke seven tackles, and ran in for a 50ish yard TD. Having already had this sort of thing happen several times, I packed up the game and returned it...di I mention that this happened on the "normal" setting?
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Posted 27 June 2005 - 08:58 AM

the physics ion 2k3 had problems but by 2k5 it was completey fixed. as far as the cone. the best passing feature was total control passing in NFL fever 2004. the game sucked but the passing was really cool. you controlled a target with the right thumbstick then used the right trigger to throw it so you through to a spot. anyway back on topic madden has the worst physics evey. i scored a TD by picking up the ball off my friends back in the endzone? plus a deep post to stallworth will burn u all the time. all they care about in madden is speed. and the DBs jump 10fit in the air
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