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S-Dubb Icon : (29 January 2016 - 10:18 AM) what up home dawgs?
S-Dubb Icon : (29 January 2016 - 10:22 AM) long time no chat, Ya boy has returned from the depths. Good to see everyone alive and well. Another season down the drain... what else is new? Fitz coming back next yr means we wont be going to the superbowl. We seriously need to land a QB. I hope Petty is the future and Im still quietly waiting for Geno to show up. IF they retain him it would speak volumes
Mr_Jet Icon : (29 January 2016 - 11:23 AM) I'm done with Geno. Never really expected much from him from the beginning. So I'm also looking for Petty to be the future.
vjdbbq Icon : (29 January 2016 - 04:33 PM) GENO SUCKS MONKEY DICK
MikeGangGree... Icon : (29 January 2016 - 07:16 PM) S-Dubb??.Who's that guy?
MikeGangGree... Icon : (29 January 2016 - 07:17 PM) FIRE S-DUBB
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (30 January 2016 - 09:10 AM) Dubb and Amen? Did I take a wrong turn and land back in 2007?
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (30 January 2016 - 09:10 AM) Haha good to see both of you
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (30 January 2016 - 03:28 PM) I don't care if Cro comes back, I think Marcus Williams can start opposite Revis. Hes a ball hawk and has performed well everytime hes called on.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (30 January 2016 - 03:41 PM) I want Fitz back as starter, he lacks arm talent but he is scrappy
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (30 January 2016 - 03:41 PM) The team loves him as a leader and he is a good bridge QB as we groom a QB of the future.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (30 January 2016 - 03:42 PM) He also has top notch pocket awareness.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (30 January 2016 - 03:42 PM) He allows our playmakers to make plays. After years of terrible QB play, I'll take 31 TD 15 INTs almost 4,000 yards
MikeGangGree... Icon : (01 February 2016 - 12:41 AM) I can't stop thinking about the off season...... what the hell are we gonna do!!
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (02 February 2016 - 09:59 AM) Maccagnan is going to have to show his worth
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (02 February 2016 - 10:00 AM) They can't have Wilkerson on that franchise tag, they have to sign him long term with a small cap hit or trade him. Otherwise we are in trouble with other FAs.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (02 February 2016 - 10:00 AM) We need Harrison back, you can't run a effective 3-4 without a stud NT.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (02 February 2016 - 10:01 AM) I hope we get Harrison back on a 4 yr contract.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (02 February 2016 - 12:55 PM) I really think we are going to have to tag and trade Wilkerson
MikeGangGree... Icon : (02 February 2016 - 12:56 PM) If we keep wilk we lose Harrison or Fitzpatrick maybe both
MikeGangGree... Icon : (02 February 2016 - 12:56 PM) And ivory
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (02 February 2016 - 07:23 PM) We can't keep Wilkerson, Richardson, and Williams. A move has to be made
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (02 February 2016 - 07:25 PM) If the Jets want to go cheaper, they can try to trade Wilkerson and have Richardson/Williams for cheap
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (02 February 2016 - 07:25 PM) Then they can re-sign Harrison, FItzpatrick, Ivory, and maybe Powell.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (03 February 2016 - 09:59 AM) Kaepernick apparently wants out of SF and wants to join the Jets
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (03 February 2016 - 09:59 AM) Guess he sees the Jets as a team with a great WR tandem and a quality OC who builds a offense around the players
MikeGangGree... Icon : (03 February 2016 - 10:29 AM) No thanks
MikeGangGree... Icon : (03 February 2016 - 10:29 AM) Unless he's dirt cheap
MikeGangGree... Icon : (03 February 2016 - 10:30 AM) The jets would be fools to take on that contract
Jetsfan115 Icon : (03 February 2016 - 02:09 PM) keep powell, snakcs, wilkerson, and fitz. let ivory walk, trade richardson, cut cromartie, restructure brick
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (03 February 2016 - 04:18 PM) Marshall said no to Kaepnerick, he wants FItzpatrick as his QB
vjdbbq Icon : (04 February 2016 - 12:07 PM) Where's Rob ? I need some ass shots !!!!!
MikeGangGree... Icon : (07 February 2016 - 04:16 PM) its crazy how dead this site is
MikeGangGree... Icon : (07 February 2016 - 04:16 PM) its super bowl Sunday!!
vjdbbq Icon : (07 February 2016 - 04:47 PM) Everybody is at Rob's house ; checking out the asses !!!!!
Smedsthejet Icon : (07 February 2016 - 05:17 PM) Hope Cotchery gets a ring tonight
santana Icon : (07 February 2016 - 07:04 PM) Yeah I would rather see a panther win
santana Icon : (07 February 2016 - 07:25 PM) Zzzz
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (07 February 2016 - 09:03 PM) I want to see Manning go out on top
vjdbbq Icon : (07 February 2016 - 11:03 PM) Jerricho got screwed on the call in the first quarter but he dropped a few later on .
vjdbbq Icon : (07 February 2016 - 11:04 PM) Screw Manning and his chicken parm .
MikeGangGree... Icon : (07 February 2016 - 11:29 PM) We need a pass rushing LB!! Look at Denver.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (07 February 2016 - 11:30 PM) Nothing against manning but he wasn't good at all this year and gives me hope that we can reach a super bowl with Fitzpatrick
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (08 February 2016 - 06:42 AM) Denver has two future HOF edge rushers with Miller and Ware.
ganggreen2003 Icon : (08 February 2016 - 08:01 PM) NO to kapergimmick
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Posted 16 January 2007 - 06:27 PM

i think we should draft him if we can, think about it, we've all been saying we need a NT, i would had said this earlier but wasnt sure if he was gonna be in the draft or not, i mean i like him cause hes from michigan but hes also nice as hell, and hes BIG, what do u guys think, u think we'll have a shot at drafting him
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Posted 16 January 2007 - 06:31 PM

Well he's ranked 7th on Mel Kiper's big board. So I'm gonna guess not...
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Posted 16 January 2007 - 06:45 PM

i wish, but he is a top 10 pick anyway you look at it.

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Posted 16 January 2007 - 06:59 PM

probably a top 5 pick....but we would have to unload some picks and trade for the position to get him which im not in favor of. we have a 1st and a really high 2nd and another decent 2nd pick. Id rather have 3 players....

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Posted 16 January 2007 - 07:04 PM

We all wish!
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Posted 16 January 2007 - 07:11 PM

i know i might be wrong but who really needs a NT that bad before us, i say i might be wrong cause im not really sure of the draft order
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Posted 16 January 2007 - 07:18 PM

Thing is...he isn't really a NT. Plenty of teams will take him to be a dominant DT in any system. I know he has plenty of size to be a NT. But he isn't really a space eaterand would best utilized as a DE in the 3-4. It's scary to think how good Alan Branch could be as a DE in the 3-4. And while I'm sure he could play NT...it wouldn't be worth trading up that far to put him in an unnatural position...

Actually...I've heard some rumblings that Branch might start dropping because he isn't really a run stopper...and isn't really a fantastic pass rusher...plus he doesn't even have anything noteworthy in the stat column. I try not to look at stats...but put it all together he may end up a mid first rounder. Problem is...there isn't another DT who could really beat him out for first DT taken...so I suppose he stays Top 10.

If he did fall...for whatever reason...I think he'd be a good pickup...but as a DE. Hell...I might be willing to give up my Marshawn Lynch man crush if Branch fell...haha. But it won't happen...so the man love continues...
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Posted 16 January 2007 - 07:36 PM

i've been asking for this guys since day one but i doubt we'd land him, all the other team that goes ahead of us will most likely look to get him
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Posted 16 January 2007 - 09:17 PM

well if we cant get this guy and we dont get a RB this year, MIKE HART IN 08!
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Posted 16 January 2007 - 10:05 PM

the more and more i see the patriots on tv or read about them, the more i want a player like seymour on our team. lets hope your right and his stock does drop and we somehow pick him up. he has the potential to be better than seymour.

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Posted 16 January 2007 - 10:19 PM

QUOTE (penningtonpays @ Jan 16 2007, 10:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
the more and more i see the patriots on tv or read about them, the more i want a player like seymour on our team. lets hope your right and his stock does drop and we somehow pick him up. he has the potential to be better than seymour.


That's the truth right there!
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Posted 17 January 2007 - 08:03 AM

i hate to burst the bubble but we already have a guy just as good as seymour in 2006

Shaun Ellis ---------------------Richard Seymour
tackles-58 ---------------- tackles-40
solo-37 --------------------- solo-22
asst-21---------------------- asst-18
sacks-5 ----------------------- sacks-4
pass Def-3 ------------------- pass Def-7
int- 0 ---------------------------- int-1
ff-1 --------------------------- ff-0
fumblerec-0 ---------------------- fumblegarec-1
games-16 ----------------------- games-16




Shaun ellis had just as good if not better numbers than seymour in the same number of games and this is his first year in a 3-4....we can hate on him because he wont be the 10 sack guy he was in herm's scheme but i give him alot of credit because most high paid defensive ends like abraham or strahan would of cried and asked for a trade because their stats would drop but he played his ass off. But hey i would take both guys in a heart beat.


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Posted 17 January 2007 - 08:11 AM

QUOTE (tipceey @ Jan 17 2007, 08:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i hate to burst the bubble but we already have a guy just as good as seymour

Shaun Ellis Richard Seymour
tackles-58 ---------------- tackles-40
solo-37 --------------------- solo-22
asst-21 asst-18
sacks-5 sacks-4
pass Def-3 pass Def-7
int- 0 int-1
ff-1 ff-0
fumblerec-0 fumblegarec-1
games-16 games-16
Shaun ellis had just as good if not better numbers than seymour in the same number of games and this is his first year in a 3-4....we can hate on him because he wont be the 10 sack guy he was in herm's scheme but i give him alot of credit because most high paid defensive ends like abraham or strahan would of cried and asked for a trade because their stats would drop but he played his ass off. But hey i would take both guys in a heart beat.
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wow! That is eye opening. I thought that ELIS had a quiet year. The guy actually had a very nice season!
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Posted 17 January 2007 - 11:02 AM

QUOTE (tipceey @ Jan 17 2007, 08:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i hate to burst the bubble but we already have a guy just as good as seymour in 2006

Shaun Ellis ---------------------Richard Seymour
tackles-58 ---------------- tackles-40
solo-37 --------------------- solo-22
asst-21---------------------- asst-18
sacks-5 ----------------------- sacks-4
pass Def-3 ------------------- pass Def-7
int- 0 ---------------------------- int-1
ff-1 --------------------------- ff-0
fumblerec-0 ---------------------- fumblegarec-1
games-16 ----------------------- games-16
Shaun ellis had just as good if not better numbers than seymour in the same number of games and this is his first year in a 3-4....we can hate on him because he wont be the 10 sack guy he was in herm's scheme but i give him alot of credit because most high paid defensive ends like abraham or strahan would of cried and asked for a trade because their stats would drop but he played his ass off. But hey i would take both guys in a heart beat.
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Do me a favor and burn the stat book...

Stats will never show what a defensive linemen does in the 3-4. Shaun Ellis didn't control the line of scrimmage the way Seymour did. Ellis did a good job, no doubt, but he is part of the run defense problem...not the biggest part, obviously, but a part of it.
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Posted 17 January 2007 - 11:49 AM

QUOTE (JetsMan4012 @ Jan 17 2007, 12:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i know i might be wrong but who really needs a NT that bad before us, i say i might be wrong cause im not really sure of the draft order


Thing is one team in the top 15 who doesn't neccessarilly require a NT will take him simply because of his talent. Last year Carolina had DeShaun Foster on their roster but that didn't stop them taking DeAngelo Williams same with the Saints and Bush as they had McAllister although passing on Bush would have been a mistake (isn't that right Texans?).

QUOTE (HurricaneJet32 @ Jan 17 2007, 04:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Do me a favor and burn the stat book...

Stats will never show what a defensive linemen does in the 3-4. Shaun Ellis didn't control the line of scrimmage the way Seymour did. Ellis did a good job, no doubt, but he is part of the run defense problem...not the biggest part, obviously, but a part of it.


Exactly. Seymour would have commanded more double teams than Ellis did simply because of his reputation around the league as one of the best DEs in the league.
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Posted 17 January 2007 - 12:40 PM

in all honesty id rather have Lamar Woodley to play DE instead of Branch, Woodley could play that OLB/DE pos that thomas plays. seriously anyone else watch michigan play this guy is a monster
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Posted 17 January 2007 - 12:54 PM

I could be wrong, but I don't think Woodley would play DE in the 3-4. He's 6-2 and 268 lbs. Compare that to Bryan Thomas who is 6-4 and 266 lbs. Woodley is the perfect size for an OLB in the 3-4, assuming he's fast enough.
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Posted 17 January 2007 - 01:09 PM

QUOTE (VaNDelaYInDusTrIEs @ Jan 17 2007, 01:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I could be wrong, but I don't think Woodley would play DE in the 3-4. He's 6-2 and 268 lbs. Compare that to Bryan Thomas who is 6-4 and 266 lbs. Woodley is the perfect size for an OLB in the 3-4, assuming he's fast enough.


yes he would be an OLB
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Posted 17 January 2007 - 01:35 PM

QUOTE (HurricaneJet32 @ Jan 17 2007, 11:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Do me a favor and burn the stat book...

Stats will never show what a defensive linemen does in the 3-4. Shaun Ellis didn't control the line of scrimmage the way Seymour did. Ellis did a good job, no doubt, but he is part of the run defense problem...not the biggest part, obviously, but a part of it.


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RIGHT ON THE MONEY!!! Ellis is no seymor...bottom line.

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Posted 17 January 2007 - 07:24 PM

QUOTE (VILMAmazing51 @ Jan 17 2007, 02:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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RIGHT ON THE MONEY!!! Ellis is no seymor...bottom line.



You cant fault ellis for a couple of reasons the biggest of which was the lack of a NT....Of all the 3-4's in the league we are the only one that doesnt have a real NT. Teams could collapse 2 or 3 blockers on him because he was the only guy on the line causing any disruption......Robertson had an OK year but his mobility is seriously limited by a degenerative knee condition which alot of pro's think might end his career earlier than expected and Kimo as we all know is awful and shouldnt have been starting on an nfl roster last year. Give him Wilfork and ty warren type players and another year in the 3-4 system and we'll see who the most dominant DE in the 3-4 really is. I'll admit that the numbers dont tell the whole truth but if it wasnt for Ellis getting blocks collapsed on him the way they did the sacks that rhodes and thomas got wouldnt be there.....he basically was the NT because he occupied the space.......another thing is this was his first year in the 3-4 so i think he deserves credit for putting up numbers and not gripes about a change in philosophy which pretty much an high paid DE in the league would have done.........numbers may not tell the whole truth but they dont lie either
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