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MikeGangGree... Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:09 AM) good
MikeGangGree... Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:09 AM) Best day of the week is the day after a Jets Win!
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:12 AM) Rob you think the offense started off ugly? we scored on our first 4 drives, and controlled the ball 80% of the time the first half. We didn't even punt until the 2nd half
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:21 AM) I meant the hits on Fitz at on the first Drive or two with the fumbles and almost fumbles....The Tom Brady rule where balls that used to be fumbles are incomplete. We recovered the ball on all but one but it was ruled incomplete
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:26 AM) The offensive line stepped off after Hughes got hurt for however long he was out. I don't blame J. Marsh for that fumble because that was just a hell of a play. Imo Fitz had a career best game even with only 1 td passing. Never seen him so accurate. So yeah when I meant ugly I meant dline penetration and the 1st two drives ending up in fieldgoals
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:30 AM) But 31 points given up passing by the defense passing was bad. It wasn't just 2 long bombs and that defensive touchdown leading to 21 points. 3q1 against a bad team was terrible for the defense. Without the offense putting up 37 the Jets,would have lost so yeah I consider it an ugly start on both ends
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:32 AM) I'm glad like everyone else that the Jets won. Especially with getting with by the Bills multiple times it was nice revenge.
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:34 AM) Just saying that the Bills look like a bad team this year and the Jets have to face a lot of teams that are probably playoff bound again so yes there is a lot of concern
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 11:39 AM) fitz look good and lets not forget the 50+ yarder to decker that was called back on a BS holding penalty. plus if you rewatch it, the jets d-line was getting held like crazy and never got calls. I seen McLendon, williams, and wilk all complaining about it
azjetfan Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:32 PM) I think the game plan for the D was to keep Taylor in the pocker
azjetfan Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:33 PM) They didn't want him running around when they only rushed 3-4 guts
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:37 PM) bills fired their OC today after the loss yesterday lol
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:38 PM) yeah we didn't really rush, we just tried to keep contain on the outside and collapse the middle
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:38 PM) on the salas TD, one of our LBers went for the sack and broke contain and pryor got away and made the play
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:39 PM) when we did rush which was rare, we had a spy
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 11:11 PM) As far as the Bills firing the oc I'm not sure I agree with it with Watkins having major foot problem with a steel rod in his surgically repaired foot but I dont follow the Bills so cant really say. I do think they need to get rid of Rob Ryan though. He had a decent year with the Browns then was terrible with the Cowboys and Saints. He isn't half the DC that Rex is. I still think Rex can be a good head coach withe the right coaches and roster but Rob Ryan isn't the answer. But if Rex wants to ruin his chance of staying a head coach by keeping his brother on the coaching staff like he ruined his head coaching job keeping Sanchez as a starter then that's his stupidity
ganggreen2003 Icon : (17 September 2016 - 12:20 AM) The A Football Life of Curtis Martin is a MUST WATCH!!!!
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (17 September 2016 - 02:03 PM) They got rid of their OC after their defense was ripped apart
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:03 PM) Well hell that makes even less sense. The defense gets ripped apart so let's get rid of the oc instead of the dc.they didn't have much of a run game but a lot of passes yards. If they wanted to blame anyone for nearly 40 points against them it was their defense. But guess Rex used the ocean as the scale goat instead of his brother
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:04 PM) Oc not ocean. Damn Auto correct on phone
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:04 PM) And scape goatee
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:05 PM) Lol still can't get it right
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:13 PM) Not sure about anyone else but I'm extremely interested in the 49r/ Panther game at 1pm. Just want to see if the 49rs are actually good this year or if the Rams have become one of the worst teams in the league this year
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:16 PM) If the Rams have regressed that much then all the Todd Gurley owners in fantasy will likely have low points from him all year. Might even be worth trying to trade him early if they look just as bad this week before his stock drops
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:26 PM) I drafted him last year and also had David Johnson, Chris Johnson, Roetlesburger, Romo, Palmer, Barnage,, .....my whole team was stacked with starters. Entire team wasc stacked with starters. Even bench. Made tge Superbowl but did have a rough start at behinning of season when Romo and Roethlisberger wentvdown at the start of season also lost amazing starting rb and wr all within the 1st 4 games but worked the waivers really well..shut out until garbage time by a team that was terrible last year
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:28 PM) Last part meant Rams were shut out entire game even in garbage time against 49r backups
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:29 PM) Sorry about typos. Hard to type on small phone screen
MikeGangGree... Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:00 PM) This is why I'm glad Rex is gone. Fire the OC after the D gives up 500 yards??
MikeGangGree... Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:01 PM) UPDATE THE UPDATE!!!!
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:25 PM) Yep Rex isn't a bad coach but he needs to have all player and coach decisions as far as firing and hiring taken out of his hands. His problem is he doesn't know to separate the job from loyalty to players and is unable to let underperforming players go
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:27 PM) He was great as a DC because he wasn't in charge of roster and firing decisions. He will never make it as a good head coach until he can get rid of loyalty and run a team like any boss runs a business.
azjetfan Icon : (17 September 2016 - 07:16 PM) I loved Rex as a person. But he is severely handicapped in his skill set as a HC. He has not adapted and will not adapt. That's why he isn't here and will be fired from Buffalo.
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:05 AM) It's all guessing and I will like likely stick with my two starters that are injured and playing but D.Thomas looks like he is still in a lot of pain and Stewart is still in the locker room getting ankle treatment so both could be on a snap count
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:06 AM) I have good wr's on bench and good rb's on bench but they have bad matchups. Do t trust Diggs against Greenbay or Doug Martin against Arizona both on bench
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:08 AM) If I made changes I have Crabtree for Oakland Aagainst Atlanta and Abdullah for Detroit against 49rs as my two options I would choose if I made any changes
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:10 AM) Actually have it backwards with my running back teams
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:12 AM) Detroit vs Titans who I believe has a legit defense. Panthers have a better team but the ankle for Stewart and both the Titans and 49rs are ranked #1 against the run. Not a believer in the 49rs defensesthough
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:13 AM) Believe the Rams oline just sucks
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:15 AM) Abdullah splits carries but he did get 17 last week and also catches a lot of passes and has a better qb so could exploit the Titans still
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:16 AM) Will most likely do my own thing anyway just looking for input from those that actually study in fantasy if anyone feels like offering their opinions. If not it's cool too. Thanks
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:18 AM) If not for the injuries to the two players I'd keep them in for sure but all it takes for Thomas is a hit to the hip and a tackle by the ankle for Stewart if they aren't on a snap count already or if pain doesn't get to them.
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 12:45 PM) Well looks like leaving in Stewart was,a,bad move in locker room
MikeGangGree... Icon : (18 September 2016 - 04:54 PM) Good news! Dolphins suck
santana Icon : (19 September 2016 - 08:08 AM) Thanks professor
Jetsfan115 Icon : (23 September 2016 - 03:55 PM) updated roster. FB howsare released, TE bowman added to roster
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Posted 15 January 2007 - 11:25 AM

QUOTE (Smedsthejet @ Jan 15 2007, 11:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The Chargers won't settle for a 3rd and maybe not a 2nd either because they know how much they can get for him as a lot of teams will be interested.

Theres probaly 3 teams that are interested, most teams in the league already have a featured back. No team will give a 1st round pick for a RB, they will find that out, only LT, Reggie Bush types of backs are 1st rounds. RBs are way to easy to find to have them worth so much. Man to think, we would of had him this year, but Sproles got injured so they didnt want to trade their back up. They will put a first round tender on him, but in the end some team will work out a deal with them so then they will sign him then trade him. I would package McCariens into the deal. They need WRs, and McCariens is a decent #2 WR. Also, we have the #24 open for him, I would love to see that # in our back field come next year! Either him or Marshawn Lynch, they are the only 2 backs I want. Thomas Jones is a UFA, so another team that needs a RB can take him. There are not many teams at all that needs backs, the only ones are, the Packers, Jets, Texans, Browns Though I dont really think the Browns need one that bad, they need a offensive line more and a QB.
The team with the biggest need for a RB is us and the Texans. I seriously doubt the Giants go after a RB, they will have Jacobs as their feature back, and they will pick up a back to be a backup, so they wont get Lynch or Turner, they need CBs more. Im actually worried, that the Giants will take Asante Samuel, I really want him to be a Jet next year too.
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Posted 15 January 2007 - 11:38 AM

QUOTE (Jetsfan115 @ Jan 14 2007, 10:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
once again your wrong. just cause SD puts a tender on him doens't mean we have to pay that. we could work out a trade for turner. maybe a 2nd rounder and j-mac for turner. i'd to that immediatly


Technically...yes...but come on jetsfan you know the Chargers won't settle for that. Especially AJ Smith...you know Smith is going to get the most out of Turner.

Turner will cost a first and maybe more...so please stop saying we can get him for less...it's not like the Chargers are gonna be feeling generous and just give Turner away.

Bottom line for me is he has never proven to be a full time back. Yeah I like the way he plays...yes he may become a starter and be flat out amazing...but I'm simply not willing to be the guinea pig team to find that out.

Once again...the only thing Turner has proven is that he can occasionally spell the best back in the league, behind a very good offensive line, and get a good YPC. He only has 157 carries in 3 years...the average starter gets well over 300 carries a season. Yet this guy has somehow proven he can be an effective starter?

QUOTE (Jetsfan0099 @ Jan 15 2007, 12:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Thomas Jones is a UFA, so another team that needs a RB can take him.


No he's not...

QUOTE (Jetsfan0099 @ Jan 15 2007, 12:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Also, we have the #24 open for him, I would love to see that # in our back field come next year!


Why the love with the # 24? Lynch would likely wear 24...that being the number he wore his freshman year before he switched to 10. But really...why would Turner go for 24? He's never worn 24 before? haha....
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Posted 15 January 2007 - 11:55 AM

QUOTE (HurricaneJet32 @ Jan 15 2007, 09:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Technically...yes...but come on jetsfan you know the Chargers won't settle for that. Especially AJ Smith...you know Smith is going to get the most out of Turner.

Turner will cost a first and maybe more...so please stop saying we can get him for less...it's not like the Chargers are gonna be feeling generous and just give Turner away.

Bottom line for me is he has never proven to be a full time back. Yeah I like the way he plays...yes he may become a starter and be flat out amazing...but I'm simply not willing to be the guinea pig team to find that out.

Once again...the only thing Turner has proven is that he can occasionally spell the best back in the league, behind a very good offensive line, and get a good YPC. He only has 157 carries in 3 years...the average starter gets well over 300 carries a season. Yet this guy has somehow proven he can be an effective starter?
No he's not...
Why the love with the # 24? Lynch would likely wear 24...that being the number he wore his freshman year before he switched to 10. But really...why would Turner go for 24? He's never worn 24 before? haha....



the chargers arne't gonna be giving him away. a 2nd rounder for a career back-up is very good. think about how many players recently brought in a 1st round pick. randy moss, john abe, ricky williams. those are the only 3. williams was an 1800 yard RB, moss was the TD leader and a 5 time pro bowler, and abe was a 3 time pro bolwer and a 10+ sack guy almost every year. how is turner in there league. he's not. lamont would have went for a 2nd but the raiders didn't want to give it, they offered a 3rd. lamont had higher value then turner has. i doubt any team offers more then a 2nd and they will trade him since they have LT and sproles.
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Posted 15 January 2007 - 11:58 AM

Chargers will put a 1st round tender, but they will negoiate on a trade for less. They will take a 2nd round pick.
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Posted 15 January 2007 - 11:59 AM

QUOTE (Jetsfan0099 @ Jan 15 2007, 05:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Chargers will put a 1st round tender, but they will negoiate on a trade for less. They will take a 2nd round pick.


If they put a 1st round tender on him, then surely they believe he is worth a 1st round pick.
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Posted 15 January 2007 - 12:39 PM

Most of the vets on this board know I'm so torn over a back. Alot of draft boards are suggesting that we will have no shot a Lynch without moving up. However I didn't know that Michael Bush if he hadn't gotten injured he could be a mid 1st round pick. I kind of see Bush like Gore in a sense. His stock plummets because of an injury and is better then perceived and could be a major steal

Turner on the other hand is another guy where you can't ignore his skill set. However Hurricane, I tend to disagree with you're analogy on the amount of carries & yards Tuner has versus years he's played in San Diego. Martyball has always been about L.T and keep in mind that Marty is an oldschool minded coach. L.T subs himself out whenever he feels he needs a blow. There are not scripted plays for Turner. Turner is simply a guy to give L.T a rest not a guy that's involved in the scheme of the offense. Therefore his carries/yards vs years he's played doesn't factor into you're argument here. So I can't really think of it in the way you are. It wasn't like when K.C got L.J and Priest was getting injured and they ran a 2 back scheme. L.T has always been healthy making him thee #1 back and a number 1 back in the purest form.

I'm so torn on a back this offseason but I know I'll be happy with either Lynch,Bush or Turner so the whole debate for me is trying to predict which way the Org will lean.

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Posted 15 January 2007 - 12:41 PM

QUOTE (Smedsthejet @ Jan 15 2007, 09:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If they put a 1st round tender on him, then surely they believe he is worth a 1st round pick.


they have to put a 1st. cause their options are a a 5th, a 1st, or a 1st or a 5th. if they put a 5th on him they know someone will sign him and easily give up the 5th. a 1st is only 1.3 mil for 1 year which is actually pretty damn cheap for a very good back-up RB with starter potential. ladell betts got like 2.2 mil a year to be portis' back-up
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Posted 15 January 2007 - 12:55 PM

QUOTE (Smedsthejet @ Jan 15 2007, 12:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If they put a 1st round tender on him, then surely they believe he is worth a 1st round pick.

They will put a first round tender on him so that if they can get a first round then they get that, but when they find out no one will trade a 1st round, they will go lower, they were going to trade him to us, remember that from August, when we were trying to get a RB, Turner was almost a Jet,but effing sproles got injured.
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Posted 15 January 2007 - 01:31 PM

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Most of the vets on this board know I'm so torn over a back. Alot of draft boards are suggesting that we will have no shot a Lynch without moving up. However I didn't know that Michael Bush if he hadn't gotten injured he could be a mid 1st round pick. I kind of see Bush like Gore in a sense. His stock plummets because of an injury and is better then perceived and could be a major steal

Turner on the other hand is another guy where you can't ignore his skill set. However Hurricane, I tend to disagree with you're analogy on the amount of carries & yards Tuner has versus years he's played in San Diego. Martyball has always been about L.T and keep in mind that Marty is an oldschool minded coach. L.T subs himself out whenever he feels he needs a blow. There are not scripted plays for Turner. Turner is simply a guy to give L.T a rest not a guy that's involved in the scheme of the offense. Therefore his carries/yards vs years he's played doesn't factor into you're argument here. So I can't really think of it in the way you are. It wasn't like when K.C got L.J and Priest was getting injured and they ran a 2 back scheme. L.T has always been healthy making him thee #1 back and a number 1 back in the purest form.

I'm so torn on a back this offseason but I know I'll be happy with either Lynch,Bush or Turner so the whole debate for me is trying to predict which way the Org will lean.


My argument isn't that Michael Turner couldn't carry the load...it's simply that he hasn't. I'm never trying to take away from Turner's abilities. No one can argue that Turner has a great combo of size and speed. He can carry it inside, outside, short, long... However, he has never proven he can do that as a feature back all game...at all.

My point about him only getting 157 carries in three years means he hasn't even come remotely close to carrying the load. He's carried half a season's worth of carries in 3 years...yet somehow people think he's proven he can carry the load? A backup couldn't be in a better situtation to make big runs when you very rarely get carries...equals fresh legs...the best back in the league has worn down defenses all game long...equals high yards per carry...and you have an excellent run blocking offensive line. So when he becomes a full time starter I gurantee you will see his yards per carry drop dramatically...and he will start to wear down towards the end of the game. He hasn't started since college...at small time Northern Illinois...so his conditioning won't be used to pounding the ball for 16 games a season. That's a lot harder to do than it may at first seem. A lot of guys really wear down...especially rookies. Because in college it's usually a maximum of 12 games...with a lot more off time. College teams get 2 or 3 bye weeks...and than a big break before their bowl game. Now Turner obviously isn't a rookie...but he also has never been exposed to the greuling, long haul a 16 game season of starting can be...especially with how much Schottenheimer likes to run the ball.
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Posted 15 January 2007 - 04:04 PM

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My argument isn't that Michael Turner couldn't carry the load...it's simply that he hasn't. I'm never trying to take away from Turner's abilities. No one can argue that Turner has a great combo of size and speed. He can carry it inside, outside, short, long... However, he has never proven he can do that as a feature back all game...at all.

My point about him only getting 157 carries in three years means he hasn't even come remotely close to carrying the load. He's carried half a season's worth of carries in 3 years...yet somehow people think he's proven he can carry the load? A backup couldn't be in a better situtation to make big runs when you very rarely get carries...equals fresh legs...the best back in the league has worn down defenses all game long...equals high yards per carry...and you have an excellent run blocking offensive line. So when he becomes a full time starter I gurantee you will see his yards per carry drop dramatically...and he will start to wear down towards the end of the game. He hasn't started since college...at small time Northern Illinois...so his conditioning won't be used to pounding the ball for 16 games a season. That's a lot harder to do than it may at first seem. A lot of guys really wear down...especially rookies. Because in college it's usually a maximum of 12 games...with a lot more off time. College teams get 2 or 3 bye weeks...and than a big break before their bowl game. Now Turner obviously isn't a rookie...but he also has never been exposed to the greuling, long haul a 16 game season of starting can be...especially with how much Schottenheimer likes to run the ball.



you make a very good point as u usually do. but i see things as opposite. turner has proven he can make big plays and he has great size speed combo and is only 24 years old with hardly no wear and tear. he has very fresh legs and hasat least 5 great years in him. and if he can't carry the ull load ti won't matter he can still split time with the explosive washingotn. if they each get 15 carries a game it will be tough to gameplan against with turners power and inside ability and leons speed and outside ability and to have 2 back that can break it anytime. face it when houston or barlow are in we have no threat to break a big run. with turner or leon we'd have a big threat which will help chad out as well. and also SD feels like turner is a better runner between the tackles then LT. the same LT who led the NFL in TDs. they could be our low budget verison of the NO backfield with duece and bush. and we can run a 2 RB set since turner is big enough to line up as a FB. i say shitcan barlow and blaylock. make houston the 3rd RB and have turner and leon split carries

and we all know his YPC will go down. martin had a career average of 4.1 i believe. turner could easily average 4.5 to 5.0 whoch is great. westbrrok had 5.1, tiki had a 4.8 i think. LT had a 5.3.
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Posted 15 January 2007 - 06:39 PM

another quick note for this topic.... is there a better running back in the draft after AP and lynch? Both should be gone by the time we are on the clock....I think we can get turner for a 2nd or a 2nd and a player. I am all about getting this guy if we dont have to part with our 1st rounder...

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Posted 15 January 2007 - 07:17 PM

QUOTE (Jetsfan115 @ Jan 15 2007, 04:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
you make a very good point as u usually do. but i see things as opposite. turner has proven he can make big plays and he has great size speed combo and is only 24 years old with hardly no wear and tear. he has very fresh legs and hasat least 5 great years in him. and if he can't carry the ull load ti won't matter he can still split time with the explosive washingotn. if they each get 15 carries a game it will be tough to gameplan against with turners power and inside ability and leons speed and outside ability and to have 2 back that can break it anytime. face it when houston or barlow are in we have no threat to break a big run. with turner or leon we'd have a big threat which will help chad out as well. and also SD feels like turner is a better runner between the tackles then LT. the same LT who led the NFL in TDs. they could be our low budget verison of the NO backfield with duece and bush. and we can run a 2 RB set since turner is big enough to line up as a FB. i say shitcan barlow and blaylock. make houston the 3rd RB and have turner and leon split carries

and we all know his YPC will go down. martin had a career average of 4.1 i believe. turner could easily average 4.5 to 5.0 whoch is great. westbrrok had 5.1, tiki had a 4.8 i think. LT had a 5.3.


I'll give you that...Michael Turner definitely should have fresh legs...

That's part of the reason I like Marshawn Lynch too...he didn't get a lot of carries at all at Cal...but like Turner...he maximizes them and has a career 6.6 yards per carry.



QUOTE (extmenace @ Jan 15 2007, 07:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
another quick note for this topic.... is there a better running back in the draft after AP and lynch? Both should be gone by the time we are on the clock....I think we can get turner for a 2nd or a 2nd and a player. I am all about getting this guy if we dont have to part with our 1st rounder...


Some might say Michael Bush is better...but I would tend to disagree with that...
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Posted 15 January 2007 - 09:37 PM

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Chargers will put a 1st round tender, but they will negoiate on a trade for less. They will take a 2nd round pick.



PLease, Tangini is way to smart for this, if we gave up 3rd rounder okay but anything lower than that is highway robbery and A.J smith know it thats why he should take that crap to the Giants
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Posted 15 January 2007 - 09:57 PM

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another quick note for this topic.... is there a better running back in the draft after AP and lynch? Both should be gone by the time we are on the clock....I think we can get turner for a 2nd or a 2nd and a player. I am all about getting this guy if we dont have to part with our 1st rounder...




There definitely is........this is one of the deepest drafts ever, their isnt too many sure fire hall of famers as in the last draft but a lot more quality players for one their is michael bush who was at top 10 prospect before he got injured and gary russell, a relatively unknown back out of minnesota who was lawrence maroney's backup and still rushed over 1000 yards but he got kicked out of school last year for low grades (no discipline problems) and frank walker from notre dame is coming out even though i dont like him alot.....also tony hunt from penn state who has 1st round potential but will go later in the draft
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Posted 15 January 2007 - 10:17 PM

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There definitely is........this is one of the deepest drafts ever, their isnt too many sure fire hall of famers as in the last draft but a lot more quality players for one their is michael bush who was at top 10 prospect before he got injured and gary russell, a relatively unknown back out of minnesota who was lawrence maroney's backup and still rushed over 1000 yards but he got kicked out of school last year for low grades (no discipline problems) and frank walker from notre dame is coming out even though i dont like him alot.....also tony hunt from penn state who has 1st round potential but will go later in the draft


That's Darius Walker...and I'm not big on him either. He isn't a feature back...only a role player. Too slow...but he was great in college. Classic example of a guy who was great on the college level but won't have enough speed and agility to carry him to the next level.

And this draft isn't too deep at RB at all. Adrian Peterson...Marshawn Lynch...Michael Bush. Those are the only guys with sure fire feature back material. There are other good backs...but none of them that appear to be feature backs. Some may turn out to be...but when you need a feature back...you don't draft a late go hoping for the best. We did that last year with Leon Washington.
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Posted 15 January 2007 - 10:30 PM

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That's Darius Walker...and I'm not big on him either. He isn't a feature back...only a role player. Too slow...but he was great in college. Classic example of a guy who was great on the college level but won't have enough speed and agility to carry him to the next level.

And this draft isn't too deep at RB at all. Adrian Peterson...Marshawn Lynch...Michael Bush. Those are the only guys with sure fire feature back material. There are other good backs...but none of them that appear to be feature backs. Some may turn out to be...but when you need a feature back...you don't draft a late go hoping for the best. We did that last year with Leon Washington.



Leon was great for a rookie considering we had a young O-Line and teams dont respect our deep ball so they play closer to the line of scrimmage....what do you think of Tony Hunt and Gary Russell? 2 very good rbs but not the hype of any of the top guys
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Posted 15 January 2007 - 10:37 PM

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Leon was great for a rookie considering we had a young O-Line and teams dont respect our deep ball so they play closer to the line of scrimmage....what do you think of Tony Hunt and Gary Russell? 2 very good rbs but not the hype of any of the top guys


Tony Hunt is too slow and stiff. We already have a bruiser in Cedric Houston.

Gary Russell...don't know as much about...but I have seen him play on several occasions. He isn't in the class of Gopher alumn Laurence Maroney or Marion Barber in my opinoin. He is a well built guy and an apparent TD machine...18 TD's while sharing carries with Maroney last year.
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