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MikeGangGree... Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:09 AM) good
MikeGangGree... Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:09 AM) Best day of the week is the day after a Jets Win!
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:12 AM) Rob you think the offense started off ugly? we scored on our first 4 drives, and controlled the ball 80% of the time the first half. We didn't even punt until the 2nd half
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:21 AM) I meant the hits on Fitz at on the first Drive or two with the fumbles and almost fumbles....The Tom Brady rule where balls that used to be fumbles are incomplete. We recovered the ball on all but one but it was ruled incomplete
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:26 AM) The offensive line stepped off after Hughes got hurt for however long he was out. I don't blame J. Marsh for that fumble because that was just a hell of a play. Imo Fitz had a career best game even with only 1 td passing. Never seen him so accurate. So yeah when I meant ugly I meant dline penetration and the 1st two drives ending up in fieldgoals
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:30 AM) But 31 points given up passing by the defense passing was bad. It wasn't just 2 long bombs and that defensive touchdown leading to 21 points. 3q1 against a bad team was terrible for the defense. Without the offense putting up 37 the Jets,would have lost so yeah I consider it an ugly start on both ends
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:32 AM) I'm glad like everyone else that the Jets won. Especially with getting with by the Bills multiple times it was nice revenge.
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:34 AM) Just saying that the Bills look like a bad team this year and the Jets have to face a lot of teams that are probably playoff bound again so yes there is a lot of concern
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 11:39 AM) fitz look good and lets not forget the 50+ yarder to decker that was called back on a BS holding penalty. plus if you rewatch it, the jets d-line was getting held like crazy and never got calls. I seen McLendon, williams, and wilk all complaining about it
azjetfan Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:32 PM) I think the game plan for the D was to keep Taylor in the pocker
azjetfan Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:33 PM) They didn't want him running around when they only rushed 3-4 guts
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:37 PM) bills fired their OC today after the loss yesterday lol
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:38 PM) yeah we didn't really rush, we just tried to keep contain on the outside and collapse the middle
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:38 PM) on the salas TD, one of our LBers went for the sack and broke contain and pryor got away and made the play
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:39 PM) when we did rush which was rare, we had a spy
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 11:11 PM) As far as the Bills firing the oc I'm not sure I agree with it with Watkins having major foot problem with a steel rod in his surgically repaired foot but I dont follow the Bills so cant really say. I do think they need to get rid of Rob Ryan though. He had a decent year with the Browns then was terrible with the Cowboys and Saints. He isn't half the DC that Rex is. I still think Rex can be a good head coach withe the right coaches and roster but Rob Ryan isn't the answer. But if Rex wants to ruin his chance of staying a head coach by keeping his brother on the coaching staff like he ruined his head coaching job keeping Sanchez as a starter then that's his stupidity
ganggreen2003 Icon : (17 September 2016 - 12:20 AM) The A Football Life of Curtis Martin is a MUST WATCH!!!!
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (17 September 2016 - 02:03 PM) They got rid of their OC after their defense was ripped apart
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:03 PM) Well hell that makes even less sense. The defense gets ripped apart so let's get rid of the oc instead of the dc.they didn't have much of a run game but a lot of passes yards. If they wanted to blame anyone for nearly 40 points against them it was their defense. But guess Rex used the ocean as the scale goat instead of his brother
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:04 PM) Oc not ocean. Damn Auto correct on phone
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:04 PM) And scape goatee
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:05 PM) Lol still can't get it right
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:13 PM) Not sure about anyone else but I'm extremely interested in the 49r/ Panther game at 1pm. Just want to see if the 49rs are actually good this year or if the Rams have become one of the worst teams in the league this year
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:16 PM) If the Rams have regressed that much then all the Todd Gurley owners in fantasy will likely have low points from him all year. Might even be worth trying to trade him early if they look just as bad this week before his stock drops
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:26 PM) I drafted him last year and also had David Johnson, Chris Johnson, Roetlesburger, Romo, Palmer, Barnage,, .....my whole team was stacked with starters. Entire team wasc stacked with starters. Even bench. Made tge Superbowl but did have a rough start at behinning of season when Romo and Roethlisberger wentvdown at the start of season also lost amazing starting rb and wr all within the 1st 4 games but worked the waivers really well..shut out until garbage time by a team that was terrible last year
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:28 PM) Last part meant Rams were shut out entire game even in garbage time against 49r backups
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:29 PM) Sorry about typos. Hard to type on small phone screen
MikeGangGree... Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:00 PM) This is why I'm glad Rex is gone. Fire the OC after the D gives up 500 yards??
MikeGangGree... Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:01 PM) UPDATE THE UPDATE!!!!
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:25 PM) Yep Rex isn't a bad coach but he needs to have all player and coach decisions as far as firing and hiring taken out of his hands. His problem is he doesn't know to separate the job from loyalty to players and is unable to let underperforming players go
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:27 PM) He was great as a DC because he wasn't in charge of roster and firing decisions. He will never make it as a good head coach until he can get rid of loyalty and run a team like any boss runs a business.
azjetfan Icon : (17 September 2016 - 07:16 PM) I loved Rex as a person. But he is severely handicapped in his skill set as a HC. He has not adapted and will not adapt. That's why he isn't here and will be fired from Buffalo.
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:05 AM) It's all guessing and I will like likely stick with my two starters that are injured and playing but D.Thomas looks like he is still in a lot of pain and Stewart is still in the locker room getting ankle treatment so both could be on a snap count
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:06 AM) I have good wr's on bench and good rb's on bench but they have bad matchups. Do t trust Diggs against Greenbay or Doug Martin against Arizona both on bench
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:08 AM) If I made changes I have Crabtree for Oakland Aagainst Atlanta and Abdullah for Detroit against 49rs as my two options I would choose if I made any changes
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:10 AM) Actually have it backwards with my running back teams
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:12 AM) Detroit vs Titans who I believe has a legit defense. Panthers have a better team but the ankle for Stewart and both the Titans and 49rs are ranked #1 against the run. Not a believer in the 49rs defensesthough
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:13 AM) Believe the Rams oline just sucks
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:15 AM) Abdullah splits carries but he did get 17 last week and also catches a lot of passes and has a better qb so could exploit the Titans still
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:16 AM) Will most likely do my own thing anyway just looking for input from those that actually study in fantasy if anyone feels like offering their opinions. If not it's cool too. Thanks
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:18 AM) If not for the injuries to the two players I'd keep them in for sure but all it takes for Thomas is a hit to the hip and a tackle by the ankle for Stewart if they aren't on a snap count already or if pain doesn't get to them.
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 12:45 PM) Well looks like leaving in Stewart was,a,bad move in locker room
MikeGangGree... Icon : (18 September 2016 - 04:54 PM) Good news! Dolphins suck
santana Icon : (19 September 2016 - 08:08 AM) Thanks professor
Jetsfan115 Icon : (23 September 2016 - 03:55 PM) updated roster. FB howsare released, TE bowman added to roster
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Posted 23 January 2007 - 07:53 PM

Last week, I wrote about some sinking ships across the NFL landscape. These are players, primarily under contract for 2007, who could suffer a loss in fantasy value this off-season. Some players are at risk of being released, and others could lose playing time.

Thanks to everyone who sent in suggestions for players to write about this week. I took your advice on many below, but will save most of the free agents for our comprehensive free agent preview. Also much thanks to everyone who has been checking out the blog at NBC and making it hit on two continents.

Willis McGahee, Bills

McGahee has the salary demands of an elite player, and the numbers of a replacement level running back. His recent comments in Penthouse Magazine that the NFL should move the Bills from Buffalo to Toronto might be the last straw in a proud city.

I believe Marv Levy will let some other team pay McGahee's child support. Both New York teams, Denver, Houston, and Atlanta could be a fit. McGahee might be worth a second-round draft pick, but his contract demands could make a trade difficult. Even Clinton Portis wasn't worth the contract Washington gave him after two seasons and McGahee is not nearly as good a runner. I would guess McGahee has a 50/50 shot to return to Buffalo.

Clinton Portis, Redskins

It's amazing that Frank Gore is now the most valuable University of Miami running back. There have been rumblings that Portis could be available in a trade, but the cap hit to Washington would be significant because of his huge contract and signing bonus from 2005. Washington has enough cap problems without paying starter money to get rid of one of their best players.

Portis makes a lot of sense in Houston or back in Denver, but Washington may as well keep Portis if he's going to be on the books. His play on Sundays isn't the problem. Ladell Betts could steal more carries than usual, but I think Portis is set up for a big season. He'll be well rested.

Julius Jones, Cowboys

Julius was in the Bears locker room with his brother Thomas following the Chicago NFC Championship title. Will that be the closest Julius comes to being a starter in the Super Bowl?

With Bill Parcells out of Dallas, Jones has lost his primary supporter. He was already mentioned as a possible trade candidate this off-season even before Parcells left. Thomas didn't fulfill his potential until he left his original team, so perhaps a move could help.

While the Cowboys may see what Jones is worth on the trade market, they would best be served by bringing back Jones and Marion Barber and letting them battle for carries. Jones is explosive, but doesn't have great vision. Barber is a complete back, but has never carried a full load of carries, dating back to college. Fantasy owners don't want to hear it, but two backs are better than one.

Ricky Williams, Dolphins

Nick Saban saw something special in Ricky Williams as a player and as a person. Saban told the Miami media after he left he thought Ricky was worth a few wins on his own.

It's uncertain if Cam Cameron will feel the same, but it's worth that noting that Dolphins GM Randy Mueller traded Ricky once when he ran the Saints. He also wrote about Ricky's eccentricities at length working for ESPN.com. If Mueller stays on as GM, Ricky should go.

Ricky could be worth a fourth-round draft pick and the Dolphins would happily move on with Ronnie Brown. Denver, Houston, Atlanta, and Oakland are all logical fits. His fantasy value would be substantial in any of those locations.

Joe Horn, Saints

It's been a great ride. If Horn is cut this off-season, he'll leave as the best receiver in Saints franchise history. Horn is due $4.45 million next season and the team will ask him to take a paycut to stay. He is still a useful weapon in the offense, but is no longer explosive and has missed nine games in two seasons. Sean Payton also proved that he can make any receiver look good.

The Saints would take a decent cap hit to release him, but they have the salary cap room to do so if they choose. I think it makes sense for both sides to work something out. However Horn may believe he's still a number one receiver and force his way out. Leaving the Saints wouldn't help his fantasy value.

Domanick Williams (Davis), Texans

A lot of emails came into the mail box regarding the former Mr. Davis. The Texans act as if he doesn't exist. Many writers believe his career is over. Gary Kubiak will probably operate under the assumption that Williams won't be back. If he stays healthy in training camp, he will become a trading chip or compete for carries. Either way, it's a longshot that he will ever a top fantasy pick again.

Deuce McAllister, Saints

McAllister surprised a lot of people, including his own coaching staff, with his great post-ACL surgery effort in 2006. His base salary and bonuses only add up to $3.7 million in 2007. He wouldn't be free to deal because of his signing bonus from 2005.

The Saints would probably listen to trade offers for McAllister, but why mess with a good thing? Unless they got a first-round pick back (unlikely), they may as well hold on to him. McAllister and Reggie Bush make each other better. I doubt Deuce will get any more touches or touchdowns in 2007, so he's not a bad sell-high candidate.

Jake Plummer, Broncos

Plummer made it clear that he won't back up Jay Cutler in Denver. For all his faults, Plummer was a mostly consistent fantasy option and the Broncos didn't exactly surround him with talent this season. A trade to Houston to re-join Gary Kubiak makes perfect sense and would put Plummer back on the fantasy radar. In that scenario, he would have to compete with Sage Rosenfels for snaps. Which means someone else is moving on

David Carr, Texans

A fresh start would serve Carr well, and the Texans appear willing to oblige. There is a big list of teams in need of a veteran quarterback this off-season. Here are a few that could show interest in Carr: Oakland, Minnesota, Detroit, Green Bay, Washington, and Tampa Bay. The track record isn't there, but Carr would be a very popular target on the trade market and could net a first or second round pick. Young quarterbacks don't just come cheaply.


Byron Leftwich, Jaguars

The fans and media in Jacksonville wanted David Garrard. When they got him, they received startlingly similar numbers to Byron Leftwich. Garrard couldn't even hold on to the job, as Quinn Gray gave the Jaguars a shot in the arm with a great Week 17 effort.

Jack Del Rio has to make a choice between Leftwich and Garrard and I suspect he'll choose Leftwich. He was the one who drafted Leftwich. Dirk Koetter, the team's new offensive coordinator, doesn't require mobility in his offense but does require a big arm. Garrard could be moved for a second or third round pick to one of the quarterback hungry teams. Leftwich may cost a little more.

Troy Williamson, Vikings

Minnesota will bring in every veteran receiver possible this off-season, and then draft one or two more. Williamson is only 24, but he faces a vital off-season for his development. He could be at risk of losing a starting gig for good.

Mike Williams, Lions

A lot of people ripped the Vikings during the 2005 draft for passing on Mike Williams to draft Williamson. Who knew it didn't make a difference? There is an outside chance Mike Williams gets cut, and the Lions appear to have low expectations for the USC product. If he becomes a useful slot receiver, they will be pleasantly surprised. Expect Detroit to keep Detroit Mike Furrey and add more talent.

Edgerrin James, Cardinals

Many readers wanted my take on James this off-season. There isn't much to talk about really. New Cardinals coach Ken Whisenhunt may focus on the run more and should build a better offensive line. That's good news. James is a year older and is approaching 3,000 touches for his career. The Cardinals could also add talent behind him. That's the bad news.

Add it up, and I see more of the same for Edge.

Muhsin Muhammad, Bears

Muhammad's career year was in 2004, so it's easy to forget that he's finished 11 NFL seasons.

Still a useful pro, his days as a fantasy factor could be coming to an end. Bernard Berrian will pass him in production next season and Mark Bradley could be next.

Chris Brown, Titans

I saved most of the free agents for our upcoming preview, but many people emailed about Brown. It's hard to imagine a great career comeback here. He was below average in 2005 and lost his job to Travis Henry in 2006. Brown is talented enough to be a quality third-down back, but don't expect more.

Rod Smith, Broncos

He didn't have any fantasy value in 2006, and I doubt he'll have a starting job in 2007. If you can still get anything at all for Smith, do it now before he retires.
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Posted 23 January 2007 - 10:27 PM

You know what would be funny. If the Dolphins would choose Byron Leftwich for their next starting quarterback. Another guy who sucks, and wont last in that division.

Also, I would love to have McGahee on our team for a second rounder none the less too. I know he's expensive, but he's way more worth it then Michael Turner is. What would you guys rather do?

Turner for 25th overall
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McGahee for 38th overall
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Posted 23 January 2007 - 11:37 PM

QUOTE (JCBizkit87 @ Jan 23 2007, 11:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You know what would be funny. If the Dolphins would choose Byron Leftwich for their next starting quarterback. Another guy who sucks, and wont last in that division.

Also, I would love to have McGahee on our team for a second rounder none the less too. I know he's expensive, but he's way more worth it then Michael Turner is. What would you guys rather do?

Turner for 25th overall
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McGahee for 38th overall



Neither...I don't like the way McGahee bitches...and I don't want to give up anything more than a 4th for Turner...and since that isn't happening (because we don't have a 4th and the Chargers wouldn't trade him for that)...I'll take neither.

But if for the sake of argument we had to pick one...I would take Turner with the second round pick. I know you said Turner with the 25th...but I find it hard to believe any team would give up a first for him.
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Posted 23 January 2007 - 11:39 PM

QUOTE (HurricaneJet32 @ Jan 24 2007, 05:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Neither...I don't like the way McGahee bitches...and I don't want to give up anything more than a 4th for Turner...and since that isn't happening (because we don't have a 4th and the Chargers wouldn't trade him for that)...I'll take neither.

But if for the sake of argument we had to pick one...I would take Turner with the second round pick. I know you said Turner with the 25th...but I find it hard to believe any team would give up a first for him.


Well, we might not have a choice, especially if the Chargers put the 1st round label on Turner. That 1st round pick is worth way more than just Turner. I'd offer the 38th for Turner.
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