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azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:52 AM) He is a good QB and I would love to have him. However IMO our 6 is not good value for us. Not to mention if he hates the idea of LA what is he going to think of NY? Contract situation would have to be worked out prior to trade as well. Extreme long shot to land Rivers. My money says we are more likely to land Brees.
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:53 AM) which is still a very long shot
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:46 AM) he may just hate ownership. LT's comments yesterday was interesting.
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) “I personally don’t think so,” Tomlinson said. “I really think this is a situation where Philip Rivers wants to move on. The reason why I think that and the reason why I feel like that is the Chargers have already approached Philip about doing another contract and he declined it. He doesn’t want anything to do with it; he didn’t even want to talk about another contract with the San Diego Chargers. That tells me that he’s thinking about moving on.”

“You never want to trade your franchise quarterback,” Tomlinson said, “that’s never the case. However, in this situation they might have no choice but to do so because I don’t know if Philip [Rivers] wants to be there anymore. I think he’s lost confidence in the organization. He’s seeing a lot of changes going on and the L.A. thing is valid; him not wanting to go to L.A., that is very valid, I can see that. So no, it doesn’t make sense to move on from Philip because he’s a franchise quarterback and he still has three to four very good years left.”
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) missed the LA line. nvm. guess that is a legit concern.
Mr_Jet Icon : (21 April 2015 - 03:57 PM) He doesn't want to play for a franchise based in Los Angeles, but he'd be okay with playing for one based in New York City?
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 04:28 PM) That's the point we have all been making.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:05 PM) Jets vs colts Monday night week2
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:09 PM) Jets open at home against the browns
ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:52 PM) Week 5 Bye after the London Game against the Dolphags
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) Rivers is likely going to Tennessee. Would LOVE to have him here but we likely won't make the trade. I'd easily give this year and next year
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) 's first rounder for him
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 11:03 AM) IMO that's a steep price. I would swap this years first and a conditional 1st next year. Assuming we make the AFC Championship. That would be a 28-32nd pick. Otherwise a second.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:07 PM) Yes 2 1st is a lot
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:10 PM) draft is next week, pumped
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:02 PM) What are thoughts on getting a RB in round 1? McShay's newest mock has us taking Gurley at 6. I don't think we should take him that high, but if we trade down and he's available I'd love to snag him, ACL and all. He's got an unreal skill set that, once healthy, will translate readily to the NFL. We're not getting a QB this year without paying a king's ransom, and unless we pay a ransom for a top guy I say ignore QB. I don't want us to take a Hundley or Petty type in the 2nd or 3rd round when we need other pieces (edge rush, OL)
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:11 AM) @ArifHasanNFL

.@LanceZierlein says on http://sports790.com that Shane Ray will need surgery on foot, 5 months recovery. "Could drop out of first"
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
MikeGangGree... Icon : (24 April 2015 - 09:40 PM) TEH RANGERS
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Peter King On - Cutler Trade

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Posted 31 March 2009 - 11:47 PM

Broncos, Cutler reach a stalemate; Denver now accepting trade offers


Apparently convinced that their rift with Jay Cutler is irreconcilable, the Broncos have decided to pursue a trade for their disgruntled quarterback before the April 25 draft.

In a stunning turn of events, Broncos owner Pat Bowlen released a statement at 9 p.m. ET Tuesday saying both he and coach Josh McDaniels had been unable to get Cutler to call them back over the last 10 days.

Bowlen said he spoke with Cutler's agent, Bus Cook, on Tuesday and came away convinced "that Jay no longer has any desire to play for the Denver Broncos."

Therefore, Bowlen said, "We will begin discussions with other teams in an effort to accommodate his request to be traded."

This development is in stark contrast to what the Broncos' stance was at the NFL meetings last week. McDaniels, who created a firestorm of discontent with Cutler when he attempted to secretly trade him in February and the trade failed, seemed certain last week week he would be able to mend fences with Cutler in a private meeting.

A source Tuesday night said McDaniels felt he was at the point of no return with Cutler and had no choice but to pursue a trade.

Among the teams certain to be interested are Tampa Bay, the New York Jets and Detroit, which holds the No. 1 pick in this year's draft. But the Lions may have been swayed to pick Georgia quarterback Matthew Stafford No. 1 overall after his impressive workout Tuesday on the Georgia campus.

Other teams are likely to be interested, including Cleveland, Minnesota, San Francisco and possibly Carolina. It's a virtual certainty that the Bucs and Jets, both without a bonafide No. 1 quarterback entering the draft, will bid aggressively for Cutler.

Cutler, 25, was the Broncos' first pick and 11th overall in the 2006 draft. Although his record as a starter is only 17-20, he is widely considered to be a player a team can install at quarterback and not worry about the position for the next decade.

He threw for 4,526 yards in 2008, but his relationship with the franchise soured after the man who drafted him, Coach Mike Shanahan, was fired by Bowlen in January and after an offensive coordinator he highly respected, Jeremy Bates, left for a similar position at USC when McDaniels chose not to keep him.

The day before free agency began in late February, McDaniels entertained two offers -- thought to be from Tampa Bay and Detroit -- in deals that would have netted the Broncos former McDaniels' pupil Matt Cassell from New England.

When Cutler discovered he had been shopped, he was furious because McDaniels had spoken to him as though he would be the long-term quarterback. Over the last month Cutler has simply been unable to get over it.
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Posted 31 March 2009 - 11:54 PM

Don't rule the Browns out by any stretch....


From the reports that I've been reading, they are one of the 6 teams "allegedly" in the running..And they have Quinn and Anderson. Question would be how much does Mcdaniels/bowlen want either of those 2 guys..

Can you imagine Eric mangini getting Cutler and winning a couple of Super bowls down the road eventually?
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Posted 31 March 2009 - 11:59 PM

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Don't rule the Browns out by any stretch....


From the reports that I've been reading, they are one of the 6 teams "allegedly" in the running..And they have Quinn and Anderson. Question would be how much does Mcdaniels/bowlen want either of those 2 guys..

Can you imagine Eric mangini getting Cutler and winning a couple of Super bowls down the road eventually?


Hey...if it is NOT us....then i truly hope it is the Browns.

That means whomever Denver doesn't take...is available in a trade for us.

I would gladly take Anderson or Quinn to add to the competition at QB on our team. And would come cheap.
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Posted 01 April 2009 - 03:02 AM

QUOTE (Leon#29 @ Apr 1 2009, 12:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Don't rule the Browns out by any stretch....


From the reports that I've been reading, they are one of the 6 teams "allegedly" in the running..And they have Quinn and Anderson. Question would be how much does Mcdaniels/bowlen want either of those 2 guys..

Can you imagine Eric mangini getting Cutler and winning a couple of Super bowls down the road eventually?



since when is Cutler the 2nd comming? hes a garunteed ticket to the SB NOW? he better hope he gets traded to the NFC if he wants to see the super bowl, cus as soon as Philip Rivers sees Cutler in the playoffs, Cutler will tuck tail and be done.
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Posted 01 April 2009 - 04:33 AM

QUOTE (Clemens11 @ Apr 1 2009, 04:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
since when is Cutler the 2nd comming? hes a garunteed ticket to the SB NOW? he better hope he gets traded to the NFC if he wants to see the super bowl, cus as soon as Philip Rivers sees Cutler in the playoffs, Cutler will tuck tail and be done.


You take everything so literally. Leon was pretty much saying that is our luck. We give up on Mangini, and don't get Cutler, and they combine to win some superbowls. Why do you give everyone crap man?
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Posted 01 April 2009 - 07:03 AM

QUOTE (Leon#29 @ Apr 1 2009, 12:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Don't rule the Browns out by any stretch....


From the reports that I've been reading, they are one of the 6 teams "allegedly" in the running..And they have Quinn and Anderson. Question would be how much does Mcdaniels/bowlen want either of those 2 guys..

Can you imagine Eric mangini getting Cutler and winning a couple of Super bowls down the road eventually?


If the Browns do get involved, McDaniels probably wants Quinn because of the Charlie Weis connection.

And on the second thing, that would just be Jets luck.
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Posted 01 April 2009 - 07:26 AM

What intelligent Jet fan does not want the Jets to go after Cutler? This opportunity will not present itself again for years. When was the last time a young franchise Qb was available? Sanchez or Freeman are no where near Cutler. Ratliff and Clemens are no where near Cutler. If you want to settle for five or more mediorce years, then by all means keep pulling for the Clemens/Ratliff era. If you want to be a relevant team then Cutler is our man. Pull out all the stops Tanny. Make it happen. Sorry but I've seen enough 7-9 to 9-7 Jet teams.
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Posted 01 April 2009 - 07:40 AM

Look, either way we're gonna go after him. I personally would not want to see him on my team, i think we would have to give up way to much for him and i think that anyone whose "feelings" are hurt cuz you were attempted to be traded is too much of an emotional liability. this is the nfl, deal with it. but if they accept our offer, then he's our qb. great. i hope his diabetes doesn't prevent him from a full career and he's able to get over himself, and next time when he says "i'm better than brett favre" maybe if he was, his team wouldn't be trading him.
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Posted 01 April 2009 - 08:36 AM

QUOTE (FroNTROw50yRdLyNe @ Apr 1 2009, 08:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I personally would not want to see him on my team, i think we would have to give up way to much for him and i think that anyone whose "feelings" are hurt cuz you were attempted to be traded is too much of an emotional liability.


I have come to the realization that most pro athletes have the "world revolves around me" attitude, so I'm not too surprised to see Cutler react this way, but when a player refuses to answer or return calls from the teams OWNER, then I think he is taking this too far. Regardless, I don't know what is happening behind the scenes, so I can't get on his case too much. Is he justified in the way he is acting? I don't know and at this point I don't think I really care.

I hope the Jets do pursue him because I think it would be silly not to explore all possibilities. But I have enough confidence in Clemens that I am not willing to give up too much for Cutler. I know "too much" means different things to different people, so having that discussion of what "too much" is a different argument. But if we do get Cutler, he won't be the main reason we win and he won't be the main reason we lose. As long as we have a capable, smart QB (which Cutler is and which I believe Clemens will be), I'm satisfied.
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