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Hiring Mangini Was A Mistake And Woody Johnson is too much of a tightwad...

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Post icon  Posted 20 September 2007 - 04:53 PM

First, Herm Edwards wasn't a bad coach. He did what even Bill Parcells couldn't do: guide the Jets in to the playoffs for two consecutive years, anas well as two playoff victories. If you look at all of the Jets' past coaches besides Weeb Ewbank, he actually ranks right up there.

For Woody Johnson to refuse to pay Herm Edwards the money he wanted was stupid. To refuse to pay Pete Kendall the money he wanted was stupid (that's why Chad Pennington is injured right now). Woody Johnson is a tightwad and it is costing the team. I don't think the guy really cares that much about winning as much as he does saving money.

As far as the rest of the front office goes, Mike Tannenbaum and Eric Mangini, for blowing the whistle on Belichick, are idiots, especially during a game in which the Pats would have won anyway. Spying or not, in the first two games, the Jets defense has SUCKED. That's what the Jets should be focusing on (no turnovers or sacks, and not even any pressure on opposing QBs so far). Perhaps the base 3-4 D was the wrong idea. Anyway, this season is going to be just like every other season for Gang Green: a waste of time. Hiring Mangini was a mistake.
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Posted 20 September 2007 - 04:57 PM

HAHAHAHAHAH!!!


I can't wait to see the responses to this post.
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Posted 20 September 2007 - 05:07 PM

Ah, what the hell...

Herm did have a decent record as a Jets head coach even though it was a losing record (the 4-12 season killed it). But you are forgetting so many aspects about the team. Parcells took over a crap Jets team. He rebuilt the team from nothing to make them a playoff calibur team. Herm just tookover a playoff team and never got us to the next level like he should of. Herm is not a good head coach. Woody was smart to give him to the Chiefs. Look how it turned out for them.

Mangini has a plan for this team. Dynasty's are not built in 2 seasons. Give him time and have some patience. I am tired of everyone getting their panties in a bunch because we are 0-2 right now. Did anyone really expect to go to the Super Bowl this year? Take a chill pill and let Mangini build this team the way he wants it. Only then will we be a playoff team and then hopefully a super bowl team.

Have some faith Jets fans. Damn.
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Posted 20 September 2007 - 05:18 PM

QUOTE (GreenRebel @ Sep 20 2007, 05:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ah, what the hell...

Herm did have a decent record as a Jets head coach even though it was a losing record (the 4-12 season killed it). But you are forgetting so many aspects about the team. Parcells took over a crap Jets team. He rebuilt the team from nothing to make them a playoff calibur team. Herm just tookover a playoff team and never got us to the next level like he should of. Herm is not a good head coach. Woody was smart to give him to the Chiefs. Look how it turned out for them.

Mangini has a plan for this team. Dynasty's are not built in 2 seasons. Give him time and have some patience. I am tired of everyone getting their panties in a bunch because we are 0-2 right now. Did anyone really expect to go to the Super Bowl this year? Take a chill pill and let Mangini build this team the way he wants it. Only then will we be a playoff team and then hopefully a super bowl team.

Have some faith Jets fans. Damn.



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Posted 20 September 2007 - 05:23 PM

OMG were not calling for Mangini's head in his 2 year are we? bad.gif
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Posted 20 September 2007 - 05:29 PM

Just 1 thing. At todays date, and time. You cannot mention Mr. Bill Parcells' name, with any of the 2 coaches since Mr Bill Parcells in the same sentence, let alone compare them......
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Posted 20 September 2007 - 05:33 PM

oh my god. go root for the chiefs
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Posted 20 September 2007 - 05:51 PM

Although I have no way to prove it since the IP tracker is messing it up, I'm like 85% sure this is Evanston or Richkotite2006
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Posted 20 September 2007 - 07:17 PM

Inpain, I have to disagree w/you on certain points. 1st, Herm was a good motivator-period-, he was not a disciplinarian at all (players did whatever they felt like doing whenever they felt like doing it), he was not a good playcaller, & his time management skills were the worst. Lastly, he inherited a playoff team, so I don't put too much credence into the fact that he had 2 consecutive playoff teams. Mangini has coached this team for ONLY 19 games (including the playoff game) & has a record of 10-9. I personally like Mangini & Tannenbaum, their both young & eager to succeed, committed to excellence, & most importantly have chemistry together. Give them at least 3-4 more seasons to see if their efforts have borne fruit before condemning them to the chopping block.
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Posted 20 September 2007 - 07:25 PM

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Posted 20 September 2007 - 07:25 PM

herm was really bad with clock managment and too conservative. the only disadvantage ive seen from mangini so far is that vilma's been a little less productive in the 3-4 but its a new system for him so thats a given, and also either way hes still dominant.
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Posted 20 September 2007 - 07:27 PM

I hate people who just make posts to try and get rises out of other people.
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Posted 20 September 2007 - 07:29 PM

ok..1...the person that made this thread - BAN HIM
2.Herm...got us to the playoffs..thats it
3.Mangini..has been coach for 19 games total......10 wins.....and i'm glad he took care of the bellicheck thing..exposing them...for what they are
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Posted 20 September 2007 - 07:39 PM

i will really love mangini if he gets the balls to put clemens in and stop caring so much about chad's feelings.
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Posted 20 September 2007 - 07:44 PM

QUOTE (ColesReturns87 @ Sep 20 2007, 08:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i will really love mangini if he gets the balls to put clemens in and stop caring so much about chad's feelings.


Mangini doesn't want his future QB injured to poor o-line play, I can see why. Chad's on his way out the door.
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Posted 20 September 2007 - 07:48 PM

QUOTE (HarlemHxC814 @ Sep 20 2007, 06:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Although I have no way to prove it since the IP tracker is messing it up, I'm like 85% sure this is Evanston or Richkotite2006


I think more so Evanston then Kotite.
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Posted 20 September 2007 - 08:02 PM

QUOTE (theanalogkid @ Sep 20 2007, 08:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Mangini doesn't want his future QB injured to poor o-line play, I can see why. Chad's on his way out the door.

yeah i can see where your coming from i definitely could understand that. i look for us to draft OG in the 2nd-3rd round, 1st round knowing the jets is a TE/FB
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Posted 20 September 2007 - 09:05 PM

INPAIN has an opinion just as we have........we are 0-2 and there ain't much to brag about.
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Posted 20 September 2007 - 09:33 PM

wow.................
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Posted 20 September 2007 - 09:35 PM

Yes, of course.
Herman Edwards' superior coaching ability is displayed in Kansas City. bullshit.gif
Watch as Edwards' single handedly destroys that team.
The Jets could have been so much better the years Edwards' coached them.
Sal Paolantonio commenting on the difference in the Ryan and Mangini atmospheres in the building:
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