NYJetsFan.com Forums: Is Jets' Q. B Competition Really Open? - NYJetsFan.com Forums

Jump to content

Toggle shoutbox NYJETSFAN BANTER

ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:52 PM) Week 5 Bye after the London Game against the Dolphags
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) Rivers is likely going to Tennessee. Would LOVE to have him here but we likely won't make the trade. I'd easily give this year and next year
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) 's first rounder for him
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 11:03 AM) IMO that's a steep price. I would swap this years first and a conditional 1st next year. Assuming we make the AFC Championship. That would be a 28-32nd pick. Otherwise a second.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:07 PM) Yes 2 1st is a lot
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:10 PM) draft is next week, pumped
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:02 PM) What are thoughts on getting a RB in round 1? McShay's newest mock has us taking Gurley at 6. I don't think we should take him that high, but if we trade down and he's available I'd love to snag him, ACL and all. He's got an unreal skill set that, once healthy, will translate readily to the NFL. We're not getting a QB this year without paying a king's ransom, and unless we pay a ransom for a top guy I say ignore QB. I don't want us to take a Hundley or Petty type in the 2nd or 3rd round when we need other pieces (edge rush, OL)
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:11 AM) @ArifHasanNFL

.@LanceZierlein says on http://sports790.com that Shane Ray will need surgery on foot, 5 months recovery. "Could drop out of first"
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
MikeGangGree... Icon : (24 April 2015 - 09:40 PM) TEH RANGERS
santana Icon : (24 April 2015 - 11:32 PM) TEH WIZ
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:57 AM) Teh Suarez
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:58 AM) Vic Beasley is all speed. No moves, no power. Straight up the field. Could have some big games, then nothing in the next
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:59 AM) If we don't get Mariota, we should be looking at Schreff or trading down, IMO.
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:59 AM) A lot of good edge rushers in this draft... I wouldn't want to take Dupree that high.
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 07:00 AM) Until next time fellas!
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 01:19 PM) Helloooooooooo
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 01:19 PM) Bueller
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 01:33 PM) Manish says the Jets should trade down and draft Andrus Peat round 1
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 04:39 PM) Even an idiot can say something that's right every now and then
Resize Shouts Area

Page 1 of 1
  • You cannot start a new topic
  • You cannot reply to this topic

Is Jets' Q. B Competition Really Open?

#1 User is offline   S-Dubb Icon

  • 2008 Best Insider Award
  • Icon
  • View blog
  • Group: Assistant Admin
  • Posts: 31,145
  • Joined: 02-May 05
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:---
  • Interests:Hardcore Jets & Knicks fan - Gym rat - health and nutrition - family man and proud father.

    Twitter: @NYJETSFANCOM

  • NFL Team:

  • MLB:

Posted 11 May 2009 - 08:12 AM

http://www.northjersey.com/sports/jets/44653592.html

Is Jets' QB competition really open?
Sunday, May 10, 2009 NorthJersey.com
; 0 Comments

After being drafted by the Jets, Mark Sanchez called his new teammate, Kellen Clemens, later that evening.

It was the first of what likely will be many conversations between the two in the coming months. The question is which of the two quarterbacks eventually will be carrying a clipboard during those chats.

As offensive coordinator Brian Schottenheimer recently indicated, Clemens has a three-year head start over Sanchez in terms of his experience in the Schottenheimer's offense. But that advantage might not be nearly enough to enable the fourth-year veteran to hold off the matinee-idol rookie, whose "buzz" factor already is just about off the charts.

When Clemens met with reporters last week for the first time since Sanchez was drafted, he exuded the same confidence he had three weeks earlier, when he was competing with former undrafted free agent Brett Ratliff.

Clemens hardly seemed like a beaten man, saying "I expect to be under center opening day in Houston.

"In speaking with coach [Rex] Ryan, it's an open competition," Clemens said. "I'm going to get a fair shot at the starting job."

But will he? Only Ryan knows the answer. As Baltimore's defensive coordinator last season, Ryan watched rookie Joe Flacco win the starting job by default when veterans Kyle Boller (shoulder) and Troy Smith (tonsillitis) weren't ready for opening day. Ryan said earlier this month he knew last spring that Flacco was the best QB on the Baltimore roster.

While Flacco performed more than creditably in helping the Ravens reach the AFC final, his stats weren't exactly the stuff of legend. He threw 14 touchdown passes and 12 interceptions, and his passer rating of 80.3 was 22nd in the NFL among quarterbacks with enough attempts to qualify. Among quarterbacks whose teams made the postseason, only Pittsburgh's Ben Roethlisberger (80.1) and Minnesota's Gus Frerotte (73.7) had lower ratings. Flacco benefited from a tough defense that finished second in the NFL in total defense and third in points allowed.

Overall 2008 No. 1 pick Matt Ryan had better numbers in leading Atlanta to the playoffs, throwing 16 touchdowns and 11 picks and getting a rating of 87.7. So in the copycat league that is the NFL, starting rookie quarterbacks could become even more popular than the Wildcat formation.

But even Sanchez knows all that might be a blip on the screen.

"I think it raised a lot of other people's expectations of a rookie quarterback," Sanchez said of what Ryan and Flacco accomplished. "They were really anomalies among rookies. ... They would be the first to say that they had a ton of help. For me to be successful this year for this team to be successful, it's about the defense playing well, playing well on special teams and the return game and the offense moving the ball efficiently."

If nothing else, Clemens believes it will be a friendly competition, although certainly intense.

"He's a great dude," Clemens said of Sanchez. "He's obviously a very talented quarterback. I think it will be a good working relationship between he and I. I'll certainly try to be as helpful to him as Chad [Pennington] was to me."

Clemens just hopes he won't be the one with the clipboard.

After being drafted by the Jets, Mark Sanchez called his new teammate, Kellen Clemens, later that evening.

It was the first of what likely will be many conversations between the two in the coming months. The question is which of the two quarterbacks eventually will be carrying a clipboard during those chats.

As offensive coordinator Brian Schottenheimer recently indicated, Clemens has a three-year head start over Sanchez in terms of his experience in the Schottenheimer's offense. But that advantage might not be nearly enough to enable the fourth-year veteran to hold off the matinee-idol rookie, whose "buzz" factor already is just about off the charts.

When Clemens met with reporters last week for the first time since Sanchez was drafted, he exuded the same confidence he had three weeks earlier, when he was competing with former undrafted free agent Brett Ratliff.

Clemens hardly seemed like a beaten man, saying "I expect to be under center opening day in Houston.

"In speaking with coach [Rex] Ryan, it's an open competition," Clemens said. "I'm going to get a fair shot at the starting job."

But will he? Only Ryan knows the answer. As Baltimore's defensive coordinator last season, Ryan watched rookie Joe Flacco win the starting job by default when veterans Kyle Boller (shoulder) and Troy Smith (tonsillitis) weren't ready for opening day. Ryan said earlier this month he knew last spring that Flacco was the best QB on the Baltimore roster.

While Flacco performed more than creditably in helping the Ravens reach the AFC final, his stats weren't exactly the stuff of legend. He threw 14 touchdown passes and 12 interceptions, and his passer rating of 80.3 was 22nd in the NFL among quarterbacks with enough attempts to qualify. Among quarterbacks whose teams made the postseason, only Pittsburgh's Ben Roethlisberger (80.1) and Minnesota's Gus Frerotte (73.7) had lower ratings. Flacco benefited from a tough defense that finished second in the NFL in total defense and third in points allowed.

Overall 2008 No. 1 pick Matt Ryan had better numbers in leading Atlanta to the playoffs, throwing 16 touchdowns and 11 picks and getting a rating of 87.7. So in the copycat league that is the NFL, starting rookie quarterbacks could become even more popular than the Wildcat formation.

But even Sanchez knows all that might be a blip on the screen.

"I think it raised a lot of other people's expectations of a rookie quarterback," Sanchez said of what Ryan and Flacco accomplished. "They were really anomalies among rookies. ... They would be the first to say that they had a ton of help. For me to be successful this year for this team to be successful, it's about the defense playing well, playing well on special teams and the return game and the offense moving the ball efficiently."

If nothing else, Clemens believes it will be a friendly competition, although certainly intense.

"He's a great dude," Clemens said of Sanchez. "He's obviously a very talented quarterback. I think it will be a good working relationship between he and I. I'll certainly try to be as helpful to him as Chad [Pennington] was to me."

Clemens just hopes he won't be the one with the clipboard.
0

Page 1 of 1
  • You cannot start a new topic
  • You cannot reply to this topic

1 User(s) are reading this topic
0 members, 1 guests, 0 anonymous users