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azjetfan Icon : (15 April 2015 - 08:44 PM) So your opinion of the line is right and my opinion is wrong? Is that what your saying? I don't know you. I'm not a drinking buddy of yours. Maybe you should learn some social tact.
ROBJETS Icon : (15 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) you felt it was harmless but you were the only one. Everyone else understood why I got was extremely offended about it the first time because you cross the line with what you say to people. Apparently you realized it enough to send me a long pm apologizing and having communication problems that get you in trouble sometimes. But now you cant understand the difference?
azjetfan Icon : (15 April 2015 - 08:48 PM) I understand why. What I'm saying is if you take a jab people will jab back. Have you heard that saying " dont throw rocks when you live in a glass house?"
ROBJETS Icon : (15 April 2015 - 08:49 PM) The way you understand things if I call you an idiot about not wanting to trade for a high end qb its no different from me disrespecting your family. Thats what Im getting from you. So the way you see things everything is equally personal
azjetfan Icon : (15 April 2015 - 08:50 PM) From complete strangers on an Internet forum? Yes. Man up
azjetfan Icon : (15 April 2015 - 08:51 PM) Nod the debate was if he is a "high end" player. I thought he was well above average but not worth a 6th overall pick
ROBJETS Icon : (15 April 2015 - 08:55 PM) Not worth my time to even acknowledge anymore. Just going to ignore you like I do Mr. Jet. You have a lot of mental growing up to do.
azjetfan Icon : (15 April 2015 - 08:57 PM) That's funny coming from a guy who went butt f*** crazy a couple hours ago
azjetfan Icon : (15 April 2015 - 08:57 PM) Meanwhile you can't seem to respect that others opinions are different than yours
azjetfan Icon : (15 April 2015 - 08:59 PM) You are emotionally weak. You went through some serious shit growing up and you can't adjust. You take it out on your keyboard.
azjetfan Icon : (15 April 2015 - 09:00 PM) When someone challenges your immaturity you have a complete crazy freak out and act like a girl on her first period
azjetfan Icon : (15 April 2015 - 09:00 PM) Hence the "go wipe your pussy and man up comment
Mr_Jet Icon : (15 April 2015 - 10:16 PM) Please Rob, leave my name out of your little bitchfest.
ROBJETS Icon : (15 April 2015 - 11:46 PM) My bad. You have been respecting my request to you I had a while backI made to you by us not commenting to each other to keep peace between us. I was totally in the wrong for bringing your name up at all and into an argument with member that has issues. I got furious furious with a child. I should've just ignored him like I do the other immature kids on some game forums and sites I belong to. Wont happen again. My apologies for bringing your name into it Mr. Jet.
azjetfan Icon : (16 April 2015 - 07:04 AM) Dude.... Get back on your meds.
blk_orion Icon : (16 April 2015 - 07:47 AM) WTF? Really???
blk_orion Icon : (16 April 2015 - 07:48 AM) Now back to our regular scheduled program......
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (16 April 2015 - 08:08 AM) Lol that escalated quickly
azjetfan Icon : (16 April 2015 - 10:24 AM) Rex is chirping again.
azjetfan Icon : (16 April 2015 - 10:26 AM) He said he is going to try and kick the Shit out of the Jets
azjetfan Icon : (16 April 2015 - 10:26 AM) http://sports.yahoo....l8xBHNlYwNzcg--
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Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 April 2015 - 01:25 PM) i miss rex. love his demeanor
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 April 2015 - 01:26 PM) i'd be happy if he kicks the shit out of miami and NE every year
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Jetsfan0099 Icon : (16 April 2015 - 09:56 PM) I'm excited for the new coaching staff
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (16 April 2015 - 09:56 PM) Rex wsa fun, but he was too much with the defense instead of the entire football team
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (16 April 2015 - 09:57 PM) also he didn't always hold players accountable. I think Bowles will make the team more disciplined.
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 02:50 AM) I don't have any faith in bowles
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 08:15 AM) “San Diego Chargers will ultimately make a deal with the Tennessee Titans for the number two overall pick. As part of that trade, the Chargers will send the number 17 overall pick and Philip Rivers, just as a start, for the number two pick.”
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azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 08:16 AM) http://national.sunt...s-mariota-trade
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 10:13 AM) So we would now lose out on maroita and rivers
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The Moves I Would Make If I were the GM

#1 User is offline   SignalZero Icon

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Posted 23 January 2007 - 02:32 PM

Sign Michael Turner (giving up our 1st rounder if SD puts a first-round tender on him )

Sign Asante Samuels, Tully Banta-Cain, Adalius Thomas, Terdell Sands & Leonard Davis

Draft Adam Carriker with our 2nd rounder if possible or trade up into the bottom of round 1 to grab him.

Use the rest of the draft to get more defensive help at DT and LB with other best available players taken in the right spots.

Now I know getting all of the free agents I listed will be extremely hard if not impossible, but I sure as hell would do my best.

Bonus... Trade Vilma for a good 1st round pick. beach.gif
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Posted 23 January 2007 - 02:41 PM

Terdell Sands is too tall to be a NT...

What would we do with Banta-Cain and the 30 year old Adalius Thomas?...

I like the Leonard Davis signing however...

I would never give up a first rounder for Turner...

And trading Vilma is ridiculous...
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Posted 23 January 2007 - 02:57 PM

QUOTE (SignalZero @ Jan 23 2007, 04:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sign Michael Turner (giving up our 1st rounder if SD puts a first-round tender on him )

Sign Asante Samuels, Tully Banta-Cain, Adalius Thomas, Terdell Sands & Leonard Davis

Draft Adam Carriker with our 2nd rounder if possible or trade up into the bottom of round 1 to grab him.

Use the rest of the draft to get more defensive help at DT and LB with other best available players taken in the right spots.

Now I know getting all of the free agents I listed will be extremely hard if not impossible, but I sure as hell would do my best.

Bonus... Trade Vilma for a good 1st round pick. beach.gif


1. i do not think micheal turner is worth a 1st round draft choice. even though it will be at #25, we should bring in our own players via the draft and coach them up in our system. i just feel like we would be getting ripped off because SD wouldn't be losing anything. whether or not turner is on their team next season does not really matter since they have LT. giving them a 1st rounder when james and alexander couldn't even get a 2nd rounder would be totally unfair to us. we should just draft micheal bush at #37 since he might be the steal of the draft when he turns out to be a TD machine.

2. we should sign samuel, since it would take him away from the pats and make our secondary very strong. it would give miller the few years he needs to develop into a better CB while dyson holds the fort down. however, who knows if the pats will let him walk. they let players walk when they were winning super bowls but maybe they react differently since they lost.

3. i do not know much about tully banta-cain, but he will be 27 next season and again, we should draft our own players and groom them. i've never heard of this guy before and he might have had a good season due to the patriots system.

4. we definitely should not pick up adalius thomas for reasons i have stated here. http://nyjetsfan.com...topic=16624&hl=
we are a young team and there is no reason to overpay for a player that does not fit the youth movement, will get way overpaid, all while his production declines.

5. terdell sands will be 28 and he doesn't even start for his own team. what makes you think he can come here and become a full time starter?? he also seems too lean at 6'7 335. he should be at least 350-360 if he was also really thick. just think, hes 5 inches taller than wilfork, but just 10 lbs heavier?? prob not a good option at NT, considering the best one in the league is hamption who is 6'1 320.. much like our current NT.

6. leonard davis might be a good instant upgrade at guard over moore. hes huge and is known for his run blocking skills. not sure how much he would cost because he was a super high pick some time ago, so he still might command a lot of money.

7. we should draft carriker with our first rounder, and then bush in the second. (both ways, the RB and DE positions are filled, though turner is not worth a 1st and carriker won't drop to the second round)
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Posted 23 January 2007 - 02:57 PM

I don't like giving up a 1st rounder for Michael Turner either...the guy has never started, I would much rather address the RB situation in the draft and its a deep one! I would like the Leonard Davis signing he is HUGE!
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Posted 23 January 2007 - 03:12 PM

I would take turner for our second second rounder no higher.

If I were GM I would do the following.

Defensive Line:
We need a NT as a priority. D-Rob can move to Right side if needed but if trading him means we can pick up a big strong right end with pass rush potential I wouldn't be opposed.

Linebacker: We need another linebacker big versatile linebacker in the Vrabel of the Patriots Mould, someone who can line up anywhere. I would keep the 4 starters from this year to see if the aquired NT improves things.

Cornerback: Need a decent corner, no matter how well he plays if we are starting Hank Poteat something is wrong, Samuel should be a great pick up.

Safety: I have gone right off Coleman, I understand we constantly had to blitz Rhodes because of our poor QB pressure leaving him isolated but that's 2 years running I haven't been happy with him. I think Smith should be given a shot.

Offensive Line - Right Guard is priority to me, I'm happy with Clement if we have too many needs to address it.

WR - If we loose J-Mac, is Brad Smith ready, possibly. We need to find a lower round WR to cover this loss.

QB - veteran back up cause Ramsey will be gone.

TE - I'd like another one. However we do have the guy who's name I can't remember coming back.

RB/FB - Askew, Barlow and Houston can all go for me. There is a guy from Hawaii that is 5-9 and 240, I'd like someone like that to be our goal line battering ram, Leon can carry the load from until the red zone is reached.
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Posted 23 January 2007 - 03:22 PM

thats all an ok plan besides the vilma trade, will ppl stop talking about trading vilma, hes r best player and hes young so theirs like 99% chance hes only gonna get better, besides if we traded him it would bite us in the ass and we would all regret it and call the front office stupid and one of the worst trades in jet history
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Posted 23 January 2007 - 04:13 PM

If Turner is the real deal worth our #1 pick, nobody would know that better than Schotty. If he said to do it, I wouldn't hesitate.
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Posted 23 January 2007 - 08:27 PM

QUOTE (SignalZero @ Jan 23 2007, 04:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If Turner is the real deal worth our #1 pick, nobody would know that better than Schotty. If he said to do it, I wouldn't hesitate.


Brian Shottenheimer? The QB coach...I'm sure he's knows no more than your average scout about Turner. Except for maybe his jock size...

I will be pissed if we give up a first for Turner...a second rounder I could deal with....but I'd rather leave Turner alone...
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Posted 23 January 2007 - 08:30 PM

QUOTE (HurricaneJet32 @ Jan 23 2007, 09:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Brian Shottenheimer? The QB coach...I'm sure he's knows no more than your average scout about Turner. Except for maybe his jock size...

I will be pissed if we give up a first for Turner...a second rounder I could deal with....but I'd rather leave Turner alone...

No you mean Brian Schottenheimer the same coach that got to see Turner up close and personal during his time in SD.
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Posted 23 January 2007 - 08:50 PM

QUOTE (SignalZero @ Jan 23 2007, 09:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
No you mean Brian Schottenheimer the same coach that got to see Turner up close and personal during his time in SD.


Yeah he got to see him in practice...the general public can watch that...but he never worked with him. He may know if he's a good guy or hard worker. But he never ran drills with him...never sat in the film room and studied tape with him...never reviews photos of previous plays he ran in game with him...

Schottenheimer can't tell you much more than a scout can...except for maybe what he heard from the RB coaches...
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Posted 24 January 2007 - 01:03 AM

QUOTE (HurricaneJet32 @ Jan 23 2007, 09:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah he got to see him in practice...the general public can watch that...but he never worked with him. He may know if he's a good guy or hard worker. But he never ran drills with him...never sat in the film room and studied tape with him...never reviews photos of previous plays he ran in game with him...

Schottenheimer can't tell you much more than a scout can...except for maybe what he heard from the RB coaches...

Wrong answer sports fan....

You're going to try and tell me that Schott doesn't have more intel on Turner than your average scout? Dude, he not only got to see him close up every day but I'm sure he got the heads up on what the other coaches thought of him as well, from the RB coach right on up to his Dad.
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Posted 24 January 2007 - 02:10 AM

QUOTE (SignalZero @ Jan 24 2007, 01:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Wrong answer sports fan....

You're going to try and tell me that Schott doesn't have more intel on Turner than your average scout? Dude, he not only got to see him close up every day but I'm sure he got the heads up on what the other coaches thought of him as well, from the RB coach right on up to his Dad.


I agree. Schott has got to know more then some scout. The guy practiced with him and watched him play for 2-3 years and if Schott says pull the trigger I'm with him.
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Posted 24 January 2007 - 07:46 AM

QUOTE (SignalZero @ Jan 24 2007, 01:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Wrong answer sports fan....

You're going to try and tell me that Schott doesn't have more intel on Turner than your average scout? Dude, he not only got to see him close up every day but I'm sure he got the heads up on what the other coaches thought of him as well, from the RB coach right on up to his Dad.



Yeah that is exactly my point...he only knows what other people tell him. He has no first hand experience and never coached him directly. That isn't that much different than asking a scout...yes...he can talk to the other coaches...but that is other people's opinion...I wouldn't make a big GM decision based on what another team's coaches tell me about a guy...
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