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Ryan Howard 48 now...can he get to 60?

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Posted 29 August 2006 - 11:14 PM

Ryan Howard has made Jim Thome a distant memory for us Phils fans. He tied the single season franchise mark at 48 Tuesday night and has over a month to break that mark. Since it's nearly obvious that he'll break the mark and get to 50...I'm wondering if you guys think he has a chance at 60. Steve Phillips thinks he'll hit 61..what do you guys think?
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Posted 29 August 2006 - 11:46 PM

yea i think he will hit 60+. this guy was on my fantasty but i dropped him lol, idk why.

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Posted 29 August 2006 - 11:47 PM

QUOTE (penningtonpays @ Aug 30 2006, 12:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
yea i think he will hit 60+. this guy was on my fantasty but i dropped him lol, idk why.

thats brutal





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Posted 30 August 2006 - 02:17 AM

Just calculated the pace..he's on pace for 59, but Howard is clutch, so down the stretch in a wild card race. It's likely he'll get more.
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Posted 30 August 2006 - 08:00 AM

I think the train will stop at 60, because if theydo win the wild card (highly unlikely) they'd rest him, but to him 12 homers in a month is pretty tough, but for him I'd say 60. MVP race is between him, Pujols, and Soriano in my books.
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Posted 30 August 2006 - 09:29 AM

QUOTE (Chadforpresidentin08 @ Aug 30 2006, 09:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think the train will stop at 60, because if theydo win the wild card (highly unlikely) they'd rest him, but to him 12 homers in a month is pretty tough, but for him I'd say 60. MVP race is between him, Pujols, and Soriano in my books.

Well I don't know how it's unlikely they win the wild card..they're either tied or .5 back, not sure...and they basically play all sub .500 teams from here on. However the team that does scare me down the stretch is the Marlins and I think we play them like 10 times.

And yeah, 12 homers in a month for anyone is tough..but I think he has 14 already in August beach.gif so clearly he's capable.
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Posted 30 August 2006 - 12:32 PM

anything steve phillips says is usually wrong, i see just below 60 but not winning mvp because the phillies miss the playoffs.
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Posted 30 August 2006 - 12:46 PM

QUOTE (green_blood @ Aug 30 2006, 02:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
anything steve phillips says is usually wrong, i see just below 60 but not winning mvp because the phillies miss the playoffs.

Steve Phillips says the Phillies wont make the playoffs, and since he's usually wrong, I guess they will now!! yahoo.gif
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Posted 30 August 2006 - 12:46 PM

QUOTE (Chadforpresidentin08 @ Aug 30 2006, 08:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think the train will stop at 60, because if theydo win the wild card (highly unlikely) they'd rest him, but to him 12 homers in a month is pretty tough, but for him I'd say 60. MVP race is between him, Pujols, and Soriano in my books.

how could you not even give beltrn a mention?

mets are 12 ahead in the entire NL

39 homers
110 rbis
as to get some mention





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Posted 30 August 2006 - 07:06 PM

QUOTE (EnRiCH13 @ Aug 30 2006, 02:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
how could you not even give beltrn a mention?

mets are 12 ahead in the entire NL

39 homers
110 rbis
as to get some mention

iagree.gif It's gotta be between Howard and Beltran. It comes down to if the Phillies make the playoffs. If they do, it's gotta be Howard. If they don't, it's gotta be Beltran.
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Posted 31 August 2006 - 05:09 PM

QUOTE (EnRiCH13 @ Aug 30 2006, 01:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
how could you not even give beltrn a mention?

mets are 12 ahead in the entire NL

39 homers
110 rbis
as to get some mention

True, and I should also include David Wright into consideration. So really between those 5, and in the AL it's Ortiz, Jeter, and Hafner.
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Posted 31 August 2006 - 09:47 PM

Howard blasted 49 tonight...new Phillies record...but the Phils let the game slip away. That could bite them in the ass at the end of the season.
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Posted 01 September 2006 - 03:33 PM

Guys,THE PHILS ARE NOT OUT OF IT! THERE IS EXACTLY 1 MONTH TO GO IN THE SEASON AND THERE ONE GAME BACK!!!!!!!


Ryan Howard is gonna hit atleast 55 hrs.!
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Posted 02 September 2006 - 12:41 AM

QUOTE (JerseyJet @ Sep 1 2006, 05:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Guys,THE PHILS ARE NOT OUT OF IT! THERE IS EXACTLY 1 MONTH TO GO IN THE SEASON AND THERE ONE GAME BACK!!!!!!!
Ryan Howard is gonna hit atleast 55 hrs.!

Not to mention their entire schedule from here on out is against teams that are under .500, I think they can do it, but its gonna come down to Pat Burrell and the pitching staff.
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Posted 02 September 2006 - 01:17 AM

QUOTE (JerseyJet @ Sep 1 2006, 04:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Guys,THE PHILS ARE NOT OUT OF IT! THERE IS EXACTLY 1 MONTH TO GO IN THE SEASON AND THERE ONE GAME BACK!!!!!!!
Ryan Howard is gonna hit atleast 55 hrs.!

Whew \
When i started reading that i thought you were one of those crazy philly fans that think the division was still winable

you are sane!
no doubt they have a shot at the WC
but so does the marlins
should get interesting





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Posted 02 September 2006 - 09:28 AM

QUOTE (EnRiCH13 @ Sep 2 2006, 02:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Whew \
When i started reading that i thought you were one of those crazy philly fans that think the division was still winable

you are sane!
no doubt they have a shot at the WC
but so does the marlins
should get interesting

Marlins are scarin the shit outta me, and we have like 10 games against them the rest of the year so we have to take advantage of that.
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Posted 03 September 2006 - 02:12 PM

This just figures...the day after I go to the game, Ryan Howard hits 3 jacks. Suddenly he has only 8 to go for 6o.
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Posted 04 September 2006 - 06:15 PM

53 now, he's on pace to pass Maris.
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Posted 04 September 2006 - 08:33 PM

Okay, never mind my last comment, he will have the true record (meaning no roids involved) by the end of the season. This guy is just a monster, especially for a 2nd year player.
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Posted 04 September 2006 - 09:00 PM

74 HRS? I a huge Howard fan, and even I doubt that!
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