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HarlemHxC814 Icon : (26 August 2014 - 03:13 PM) I'm just glad there aren't anymore greedy bastards on the team to deal with
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (26 August 2014 - 03:13 PM) Or street thugs
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (26 August 2014 - 03:13 PM) f*** a CB problem
Jetsman05 Icon : (26 August 2014 - 03:49 PM) need 1 more in the fantasy league
RetireChrebet Icon : (26 August 2014 - 08:33 PM) Dimitri suspended for the rest of preseason. I'm sorry, I know we are bone dry at corner these days but they should have cut this prick on the spot . He's going to get torched regardless this year and I'd rather cut ties with any potential cancerous attitutudes before the season even starts.
RetireChrebet Icon : (26 August 2014 - 08:34 PM) Where I come from you take responsibility for your actions. Not showing up for a game is cowardly and selfish. f*** him
RetireChrebet Icon : (26 August 2014 - 08:36 PM) Also he doesn't know what the acronym AWOL means so he's also an idiot. No wonder he's never been anything but a journeyman corner is this league.
azjetfan Icon : (26 August 2014 - 09:11 PM) So how do you really feel?
RetireChrebet Icon : (26 August 2014 - 11:18 PM) I think my last three posts pretty much summarize how I feel haha. He's making 1.5 mill this year and no call no shows because his feeling are hurt. Would rather you play corner azjetfan than this guy
MikeGangGree... Icon : (27 August 2014 - 08:12 AM) Need 1 more for FFB!!
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (27 August 2014 - 08:39 AM) Stephen Hill is going to get cut, guy sucks. Greg Salas is a better football player and deserves a spot over him
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (27 August 2014 - 11:27 AM) So when do we show up to 115s house with pitchforks, tar and feathers?
Jetsfan115 Icon : (27 August 2014 - 12:03 PM) i'd rather see idzik go then hill. fire idzik
bleedsgreen Icon : (27 August 2014 - 12:21 PM) Hill is such a disappointment. I really was hopping for so much when he scored 2 TDs his first game
MikeGangGree... Icon : (27 August 2014 - 03:11 PM) We need to get the J-E-T-S chant back this year to the way it was
MikeGangGree... Icon : (27 August 2014 - 03:13 PM) idk if any of u guys went to any of the games last year[Im sure some of u did] but im not a fan of the drumline leading the chant
MikeGangGree... Icon : (27 August 2014 - 03:14 PM) its not the same as 70,000 people doing it during every kickoff and after every score
Jetsfan115 Icon : (27 August 2014 - 05:43 PM) injuries and poor QB play aren't good for a WR to develop
Jetsman05 Icon : (27 August 2014 - 06:08 PM) 115 and Hill. Lol!
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (27 August 2014 - 10:18 PM) the excuses, Hill is just a terrible football player. no debate, just a fact. guy is soft as shit as well
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 10:43 AM) right cause all our other WRs were lighting it up
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Yesterday, 07:04 PM) Hill is useless bro lol
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 09:05 PM) All I can say I streamed this game and if anyone thinks about recording it from NFL Network at 4pm Eastern Saturday.....DONT!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 09:07 PM) This game was pure sh1t. Even though it was back up players the Jets got totally destroyed in this game. After seeing this game Im really worried about the Jets starting core because these backup guys looked like they shouldn't have even been on the field at all. I just hope the starters are 3000 times better than these guys that played in game 4
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 09:09 PM) The Jets got horse f*cked by the Eagles in this game.
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 09:24 PM) we are hosed in the secondary
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 09:26 PM) we need to cut this assclown patterson
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 09:34 PM) did Hill get cut yet?
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 09:36 PM) lol. We might need to look at the Eagles cuts for possible 2nd and 3rd stringers
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 09:36 PM) If they keep ZHill after this game I will be shocked.
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 09:38 PM) Philly gave us a worse ass whipping than Detroit gave Buffalo. only difference is we scored
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 09:42 PM) Im just wondering what manning will put up on our secondary? 70?
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 10:12 PM) who cares about getting destroyed in a preseason game, especially the 4th one. Most of these guys won't even make the team
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 10:15 PM) Hill cut yet?
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 10:18 PM) FIRE IDZIK
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Yesterday, 10:21 PM) Yeah this game means nothing...except to Stephen Hill (who fumbled lol) and 115
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 10:23 PM) Hill is a bum, hes pretty much never shown much football skill. The Jets fucked up big time taking him over Alshon Jeffery.
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Yesterday, 10:29 PM) I'm still pissed off about that
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 10:43 PM) Its not that Im worried about the preseason game itself. i could care less about that. Its the fact of how bad we got destroyed. And some of the guys will be on the team and others on the fringe so getting destroyed like that doesnt fill me with confidence
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 10:44 PM) It would be one thing if it was just the second half or 4th quarter but this was the whole game. especially getting destroyed in the 1st quarter and at least part of the 2nd where a lot of the guys will be on the team
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 10:48 PM) 2nd and 3rd stringers making the team had something to prove and even our 2nd stringers got owned so yes Im very concerned. The first stringers need breaks and also if some of them get injured they need to step up. So no after this performance start to finish Im very concerned
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Today, 06:39 AM) Meh...you're reading too much into it
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Today, 06:40 AM) Even in seasons where the Jets blew, I haven't seen anyone refer to the preseason to complain. Ever.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Today, 09:15 AM) fire izdik http://theredzone.or...rs/Default.aspx
Jetsman05 Icon : (Today, 11:17 AM) I picture Rob and 115 as real life friends
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Unless Titans Rookie Rips Off Long Gains, Look For Jets Upset

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Posted 18 November 2008 - 05:34 PM

By Charley Casserly
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On Sunday, the undefeated Titans (10-0) play host to the 7-3 New York Jets, who are in first place in the AFC East. This, to me, is the Game of the Year so far.

After a 1-2 start, the Jets have gone 6-1, with their only loss being to Oakland in overtime. The Jets come into this game off a crucial overtime win at New England last Thursday night and with three extra days of rest for the players and preparation time for the coaches. Those points should not be underestimated. At this time of year, extra rest will help all players, but especially the Jets, who have some older players like Brett Favre, Alan Faneca and Damien Woody, to name a few. It will also help the backs and receivers get "fresher" legs going into this game.

Because the Tennessee defense can shut down the middle, Thomas Jones will need to bounce his runs to the outside. (AP)
This will be the Titans' toughest game to date and, with the next three opponents being Detroit, Cleveland and Houston -- matchups Tennessee will be decidedly favored in -- this game probably is all that stands in the way of the Titans being 14-0 going into their Week 16 showdown at home with the Pittsburgh Stealers.

The best teams the Titans have played are probably Baltimore, with a rookie QB, and Indianapolis, with Peyton Manning still trying to find his grove. But take nothing away from the Titans: They won both of those games with strong fourth quarters. In fact, the common perception -- and I agreed with it -- was to stack your defense to stop the run and let Kerry Collins and the Titans wide receivers beat you. Guess what? In the past four games, that has been the strategy and Collins and the receivers have responded to help the Titans stay undefeated.

For the Jets, the season has been a growing process. The obvious issue was merging newcomer Favre with the offense. The coaches and players had to learn Favre and he had to learn the system and players. One area where the coaches have adjusted to Favre was putting in more empty-backfield formations. The empty backfield means there are no backs behind the quarterback.

This was a popular formation in Green Bay when Favre was there. It allows the QB to scan the field quickly and find an open receiver and get rid of the ball. This plays to one of Favre's strengths: scanning the field from sideline to sideline and making a quick decision where to throw the ball. It declares the coverage and blitz intention of the defense earlier, which makes a veteran quarterback like Favre especially dangerous.

The Jets have had to incorporate all the new starters they have on offense and defense. This takes time for the players to mesh and learn the system, as well as for the coaches to learn the players' strengths and weaknesses. The Jets added at times eight new starters to their team. It is only logical it would take some time for this group to come together and play well as a team.

Here are some of the keys to the game:

Titans offense vs. Jets defense

The Titans have one of the best rushing offenses in the NFL, and the Jets are one of the best teams defending the run. The key matchup in this battle will be Jets nose tackle Kris Jenkins vs. Titans center Kevin Mawae.

In a 3-4 defense, which is what the Jets play, the nose tackle must dominate the center in one-on-one battles and force a guard help the center. If that happens, it frees up one of the inside linebackers to run free to the ball. An unsung hero of the Jets defensive line is Shaun Ellis, who will move around and line up in different positions to get advantageous matchups.

Watch the play of the outside linebackers Calvin Pace and Bryan Thomas as the Jets try to stop Tennessee's ground game. Both of these players were originally defensive ends. They are big and physical and should present problems for Titans tight ends.


If the Jets can stop the Titans' running game with only seven men in the box, then that will be an edge -- and I think they can do it. As I watch each play unfold, I want to see if Jenkins is winning his matchup with Mawae. I will then look at the side the Titans are running to and see if Pace and Thomas are winning their matchups.

The key for the Titans is staying patient with the run, because they have a home-run threat in rookie running back Chris Johnson. He can go along and be stopped a number of times and then, with one seam being opened because the Jets misplayed a gap, Johnson can make a big play. The Jets must play their gaps with discipline in this game.

The Jets have struggled vs. no-huddle teams. The Titans will be aware of this. The other area the Titans will try to exploit is the pass coverage of New York's outside linebackers. As I said before, there were originally defensive ends. The way to exploit this is to spread your formations out and make them play in space.

If the Titans try to stay tight in their formations, they will have trouble running the ball because I think Jenkins and the rest of the Jets' front seven will give them problems. But if Tennessee varies its formations and tempo with some hurry-up offense, it will move the ball on the ground.

The key for the Titans when throwing the ball is giving Collins time, which is something they do very well. The key for the Jets will be their pass rush; a strong inside pass rush does not allow a quarterback to step up into the pocket. The key man again will be Jenkins. The matchup inside that favors Jenkins the most will be against Titans guard Eugene Amano.

I think the Jets will force Collins to try to win it again by making plays to his wide receivers. I would look for the Titans to go after rookie corner Dwight Lowery. The interesting thing will be how much Ty Law plays. I think Law can help in nickel or short-area coverage, but I doubt he can be effective in off-man coverage.

Jets offense vs. Titans defense

The Titans defense starts with Albert Haynesworth. He can be a dominating player, which will make it a real treat to watch two of the year's best defensive lineman, Haynesworth and Jenkins, in action.

Haynesworth against Faneca will be a great matchup, with Haynesworth probably being prodded all week by his coaches about this showdown. Faneca, who has a lot of pride, will rise to the occasion and probably play his best game of the year. Where the Titans have a bigger edge is at the other DT-OG matchup: Tony Brown of the Titans vs. Brandon Moore of the Jets.

I think the Titans will make it hard for the Jets to run inside the tackles. The Jets have the backs to be effective running outside with Thomas Jones and Leon Washington, and I would look for them to try to do this. I believe they can be effective.

In fact, when you defend the Jets, you must stop Washington first. He is the big-play weapon. He not only is effective running the ball but he is also good on screens, draws and kick returns, and he has the versatility to line up in different positions. Since the Jets move him around a lot, I do not know if you can plan a specific defense for him, but one way to limit his effectiveness is to wear him down. Make sure you get a hit on him, whether he has the ball or not. If he has the ball, emphasize gang tackling and being extra physical in doing it.

That brings us to Favre. There are a couple of constants with Favre: No play is ever over and no receiver is ever out of a play. Both of these situations can work for you -- or against you. Brett has the field vision to see things most quarterbacks won't and he can still make a lot of big-time throws, but he will also take some chances. Will Favre play like he did in New England, error free, or will he make the one or two bad plays that haunted him in the weeks leading up to the Pats game?

We have not seen him make many throws down the field recently. Some might question his arm strength to throw the deep ball, but he is playing with two good receivers, Laveranues Coles and Jerricho Cotchery, who aren't big speed guys. That might explain some of the recent lack of big pass plays down the field. By the way, in the Cardinals game on Sept. 28, four of Favre's six touchdown passes came when Arizona either blew the coverage or had a defender fall down.

Favre is still an effective passer and inspires confidence in the Jets that their offense can score every time they get the ball and win every game. Because of him, the Jets will not be intimidated by going to Nashville to play the undefeated Titans and their top-flight defense.

Don't look for Jets receivers to have big games against the Titans secondary; the player to watch is rookie tight end Dustin Keller. He was a major weapon in the victory over the Pats. The Jets need a big game from him, and it seems Favre is in sync with him. What makes Keller effective is he is quick and fast and hard for linebackers or safeties to match up with.

I like the Jets to upset the Titans in this game. The 10 days off is an advantage for the Jets: They will be well rested, have an extra day to practice and a couple of extra days to prepare for this game. Also not to be taken lightly is their confidence gained in beating New England.

The negative for the Jets, besides playing a terrific, well-balanced team, is they are going to play in Tennessee, where the crowd noise will give the Titans' talented defensive line the split-second advantage that makes it tough to block them. This is the best defense the Titans have faced since Baltimore on Oct. 5. I think the Jets defense will contain the Titans running game and ask Collins to win it, which he has proven he can do. Let's not forget Collins has been to the Pro Bowl and Super Bowl, so his clutch performances over the past month should not be a complete surprise. That being said, I do not think the Titans will score a lot of points.

I don't think the Jets will score a lot of points, either, but I think they will win because they will take the key matchups: Jenkins vs. Mawae, Jets outside linebackers vs. Titans tight ends, and the Jets' outside running game vs. Titans outside linebackers and defensive ends. I like Favre to outplay Collins, though the Jets will ask more of Favre in this game then the Titans will ask of Collins.

The aspect of the game that could tip it to the Titans is if Johnson makes more big plays then Washington does.
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Posted 18 November 2008 - 05:49 PM

Nice read. Thanks.
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Posted 18 November 2008 - 06:52 PM

Very good read! Extremely insightful and gives a good preview of the jets titans matchup



-When u have a Qb like Chad Pennington at the helm, who wouldnt want to play with him... Laveraneus Coles

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Posted 18 November 2008 - 10:39 PM

so basically the same stuff i posted a few days ago that i said. i should have a job writing these lol
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Posted 19 November 2008 - 12:29 AM

Casserly has an excellent football mind....reading that and knowing that it was a guy associated with the NFL for so many years, instead of a "beat writer" is getting me really pumped up for this game!!!
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Posted 19 November 2008 - 02:11 AM

Very good read! And I agree with basically everything he said. Hopefully we win like he predicts.
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Posted 19 November 2008 - 03:25 PM

Leon's going to have to pull this one out for us? No problem, he's been the difference maker all year.
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Posted 19 November 2008 - 04:39 PM

I felt this way as soon as we won the game vs the pats . we couldn't catch cassel he is big young and has good speed.
Collins will need help .
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