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MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:07 PM) Yes 2 1st is a lot
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:10 PM) draft is next week, pumped
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:02 PM) What are thoughts on getting a RB in round 1? McShay's newest mock has us taking Gurley at 6. I don't think we should take him that high, but if we trade down and he's available I'd love to snag him, ACL and all. He's got an unreal skill set that, once healthy, will translate readily to the NFL. We're not getting a QB this year without paying a king's ransom, and unless we pay a ransom for a top guy I say ignore QB. I don't want us to take a Hundley or Petty type in the 2nd or 3rd round when we need other pieces (edge rush, OL)
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:11 AM) @ArifHasanNFL

.@LanceZierlein says on http://sports790.com that Shane Ray will need surgery on foot, 5 months recovery. "Could drop out of first"
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
MikeGangGree... Icon : (24 April 2015 - 09:40 PM) TEH RANGERS
santana Icon : (24 April 2015 - 11:32 PM) TEH WIZ
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:57 AM) Teh Suarez
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:58 AM) Vic Beasley is all speed. No moves, no power. Straight up the field. Could have some big games, then nothing in the next
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:59 AM) If we don't get Mariota, we should be looking at Schreff or trading down, IMO.
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:59 AM) A lot of good edge rushers in this draft... I wouldn't want to take Dupree that high.
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 07:00 AM) Until next time fellas!
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 01:19 PM) Helloooooooooo
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 01:19 PM) Bueller
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 01:33 PM) Manish says the Jets should trade down and draft Andrus Peat round 1
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 04:39 PM) Even an idiot can say something that's right every now and then
santana Icon : (Today, 08:08 PM) THE CAPS
santana Icon : (Today, 08:28 PM) RIOT
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Today, 08:37 PM) Missouri edge rusher Shane Ray was arrested Monday morning for possession of marijuana in Cooper County, Missouri, Brandon Kiley of KTGR in Columbia, Missouri reports.
santana Icon : (Today, 09:16 PM) Fuck the rangers!
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Posted 04 May 2007 - 10:53 AM

Hobson is in the last year of his contract, and the Jets have to decide to go with a Wolverine tandem at linebacker(Hobson and Harris) or retain Vilma(who will demand a large contract in the coming years), and team him up with Harris.


Victor Hobson is not an OLB in the 3-4 defense.. plain and simple. He is too slow and too small. Hobson however, does have ideal size to play the ILB in the 3-4.
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Posted 04 May 2007 - 11:50 AM

So why exactly cant Vilma be an outside LB? And also ..he didnt look slow when he was getting all those QB pressures.
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Posted 04 May 2007 - 12:09 PM

QUOTE (Pennington @ May 4 2007, 12:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So why exactly cant Vilma be an outside LB? And also ..he didnt look slow when he was getting all those QB pressures.


Because Vilma is too small to play OLB, he'd get pancaked every time. He has trouble enough getting in the backfield with Robertson in front of him, (not that Robertson is a great NT) he'd never see the backfield if he has no one in front of him. Hobson should be moved inside, he'd be much better off.
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Posted 04 May 2007 - 12:14 PM

So in other words you are saying he is too small to play inside backer and too small to play outside backer...

Interesting
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Posted 05 May 2007 - 06:58 PM

QUOTE (EvanstonJet @ May 4 2007, 11:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hobson is in the last year of his contract, and the Jets have to decide to go with a Wolverine tandem at linebacker(Hobson and Harris) or retain Vilma(who will demand a large contract in the coming years), and team him up with Harris.


Victor Hobson is not an OLB in the 3-4 defense.. plain and simple. He is too slow and too small. Hobson however, does have ideal size to play the ILB in the 3-4.

Jets would be fools if they dont retain vilma he is an impact player, didnt have a year like rookie year because he was playing out of position now with harris they could put vilma back at weak side lb, expect a big year for the Vman. vilma and kerry rhodes are the foundation of jets defense, take one away it all crumbles down. vilma will be signed during season , mangini ia a genius, we should just call him mangenius.

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Posted 05 May 2007 - 07:07 PM

QUOTE (theanalogkid @ May 4 2007, 01:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Because Vilma is too small to play OLB, he'd get pancaked every time. He has trouble enough getting in the backfield with Robertson in front of him, (not that Robertson is a great NT) he'd never see the backfield if he has no one in front of him. Hobson should be moved inside, he'd be much better off.



if anything hobson is the one that should go not vilma, only thing i doubt any team is interested in hobson, now vilma everyteam would want him on team, hes a gamer did u even watch his rookie year, he will get the 3-4 down, hes a film hawk he watches alot of film with kerry rhodes and thats what makes him the Vman. all pro year and a ring for Vima and company. now with D. Revis jets are gonna be a force to contend with. running backs and offenses are gonna have nightmares the night be4 gameday, just thinking about harris &vilma in the middle. dam scairy isnt it.
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Posted 07 May 2007 - 11:41 AM

QUOTE (Pennington @ May 4 2007, 01:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So in other words you are saying he is too small to play inside backer and too small to play outside backer...

Interesting


Yeah enteresting , defensive rookie of the year, 113 tackles in a new 3-4 scheme and D Rob in front of him , led jets in tackles both of his profesional years , but according to you he's too small , thats a very interesting concept, makes you wonder how knoledgable some people are about about the nfl.
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Posted 07 May 2007 - 12:39 PM

Closing...Evanston's suspended for 2 weeks so it doesn't make any sense to get into debates over threads like this.
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