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ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:21 AM) I meant the hits on Fitz at on the first Drive or two with the fumbles and almost fumbles....The Tom Brady rule where balls that used to be fumbles are incomplete. We recovered the ball on all but one but it was ruled incomplete
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:26 AM) The offensive line stepped off after Hughes got hurt for however long he was out. I don't blame J. Marsh for that fumble because that was just a hell of a play. Imo Fitz had a career best game even with only 1 td passing. Never seen him so accurate. So yeah when I meant ugly I meant dline penetration and the 1st two drives ending up in fieldgoals
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:30 AM) But 31 points given up passing by the defense passing was bad. It wasn't just 2 long bombs and that defensive touchdown leading to 21 points. 3q1 against a bad team was terrible for the defense. Without the offense putting up 37 the Jets,would have lost so yeah I consider it an ugly start on both ends
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:32 AM) I'm glad like everyone else that the Jets won. Especially with getting with by the Bills multiple times it was nice revenge.
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:34 AM) Just saying that the Bills look like a bad team this year and the Jets have to face a lot of teams that are probably playoff bound again so yes there is a lot of concern
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 11:39 AM) fitz look good and lets not forget the 50+ yarder to decker that was called back on a BS holding penalty. plus if you rewatch it, the jets d-line was getting held like crazy and never got calls. I seen McLendon, williams, and wilk all complaining about it
azjetfan Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:32 PM) I think the game plan for the D was to keep Taylor in the pocker
azjetfan Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:33 PM) They didn't want him running around when they only rushed 3-4 guts
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:37 PM) bills fired their OC today after the loss yesterday lol
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:38 PM) yeah we didn't really rush, we just tried to keep contain on the outside and collapse the middle
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:38 PM) on the salas TD, one of our LBers went for the sack and broke contain and pryor got away and made the play
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:39 PM) when we did rush which was rare, we had a spy
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 11:11 PM) As far as the Bills firing the oc I'm not sure I agree with it with Watkins having major foot problem with a steel rod in his surgically repaired foot but I dont follow the Bills so cant really say. I do think they need to get rid of Rob Ryan though. He had a decent year with the Browns then was terrible with the Cowboys and Saints. He isn't half the DC that Rex is. I still think Rex can be a good head coach withe the right coaches and roster but Rob Ryan isn't the answer. But if Rex wants to ruin his chance of staying a head coach by keeping his brother on the coaching staff like he ruined his head coaching job keeping Sanchez as a starter then that's his stupidity
ganggreen2003 Icon : (17 September 2016 - 12:20 AM) The A Football Life of Curtis Martin is a MUST WATCH!!!!
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (17 September 2016 - 02:03 PM) They got rid of their OC after their defense was ripped apart
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:03 PM) Well hell that makes even less sense. The defense gets ripped apart so let's get rid of the oc instead of the dc.they didn't have much of a run game but a lot of passes yards. If they wanted to blame anyone for nearly 40 points against them it was their defense. But guess Rex used the ocean as the scale goat instead of his brother
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:04 PM) Oc not ocean. Damn Auto correct on phone
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:04 PM) And scape goatee
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:05 PM) Lol still can't get it right
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:13 PM) Not sure about anyone else but I'm extremely interested in the 49r/ Panther game at 1pm. Just want to see if the 49rs are actually good this year or if the Rams have become one of the worst teams in the league this year
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:16 PM) If the Rams have regressed that much then all the Todd Gurley owners in fantasy will likely have low points from him all year. Might even be worth trying to trade him early if they look just as bad this week before his stock drops
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:26 PM) I drafted him last year and also had David Johnson, Chris Johnson, Roetlesburger, Romo, Palmer, Barnage,, .....my whole team was stacked with starters. Entire team wasc stacked with starters. Even bench. Made tge Superbowl but did have a rough start at behinning of season when Romo and Roethlisberger wentvdown at the start of season also lost amazing starting rb and wr all within the 1st 4 games but worked the waivers really well..shut out until garbage time by a team that was terrible last year
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:28 PM) Last part meant Rams were shut out entire game even in garbage time against 49r backups
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:29 PM) Sorry about typos. Hard to type on small phone screen
MikeGangGree... Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:00 PM) This is why I'm glad Rex is gone. Fire the OC after the D gives up 500 yards??
MikeGangGree... Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:01 PM) UPDATE THE UPDATE!!!!
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:25 PM) Yep Rex isn't a bad coach but he needs to have all player and coach decisions as far as firing and hiring taken out of his hands. His problem is he doesn't know to separate the job from loyalty to players and is unable to let underperforming players go
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:27 PM) He was great as a DC because he wasn't in charge of roster and firing decisions. He will never make it as a good head coach until he can get rid of loyalty and run a team like any boss runs a business.
azjetfan Icon : (17 September 2016 - 07:16 PM) I loved Rex as a person. But he is severely handicapped in his skill set as a HC. He has not adapted and will not adapt. That's why he isn't here and will be fired from Buffalo.
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:05 AM) It's all guessing and I will like likely stick with my two starters that are injured and playing but D.Thomas looks like he is still in a lot of pain and Stewart is still in the locker room getting ankle treatment so both could be on a snap count
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:06 AM) I have good wr's on bench and good rb's on bench but they have bad matchups. Do t trust Diggs against Greenbay or Doug Martin against Arizona both on bench
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:08 AM) If I made changes I have Crabtree for Oakland Aagainst Atlanta and Abdullah for Detroit against 49rs as my two options I would choose if I made any changes
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:10 AM) Actually have it backwards with my running back teams
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:12 AM) Detroit vs Titans who I believe has a legit defense. Panthers have a better team but the ankle for Stewart and both the Titans and 49rs are ranked #1 against the run. Not a believer in the 49rs defensesthough
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:13 AM) Believe the Rams oline just sucks
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:15 AM) Abdullah splits carries but he did get 17 last week and also catches a lot of passes and has a better qb so could exploit the Titans still
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:16 AM) Will most likely do my own thing anyway just looking for input from those that actually study in fantasy if anyone feels like offering their opinions. If not it's cool too. Thanks
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:18 AM) If not for the injuries to the two players I'd keep them in for sure but all it takes for Thomas is a hit to the hip and a tackle by the ankle for Stewart if they aren't on a snap count already or if pain doesn't get to them.
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 12:45 PM) Well looks like leaving in Stewart was,a,bad move in locker room
MikeGangGree... Icon : (18 September 2016 - 04:54 PM) Good news! Dolphins suck
santana Icon : (19 September 2016 - 08:08 AM) Thanks professor
Jetsfan115 Icon : (23 September 2016 - 03:55 PM) updated roster. FB howsare released, TE bowman added to roster
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Today, 10:09 AM) BREAKING NEWS: Santana is a jinx during JETS games
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Posted 19 January 2006 - 08:06 PM

1. KC needs Defensive help. So he allows Al Saunders his offensive coordinator sign with Washington today.

2. He keeps a horrible Gunther Cunningham as Defensive Coordinator.

3. He alienates Priest Holmes and gives away his cards by announcing Larry Johnson as the starter. In January..great strategy Herm. Summer workouts won't be as intense because they are not working toward any goals.

4. Dick Curl is on his staff as clock guru.

Meanwhile...with the Jets


Eric Mangini is getting rid of all the black coaches. I saw the picture of the 5 crackers running our team. I hope he keeps a diverse team. One thing is for sure the coaching staff went Anglo in a hurry!
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Posted 19 January 2006 - 08:32 PM

Race dosn't mean anything! I am sure going to miss Donnie and Herm though.
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Posted 19 January 2006 - 08:40 PM

QUOTE (richkotite2006 @ Jan 19 2006, 08:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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Eric Mangini is getting rid of all the black coaches. I saw the picture of the 5 crackers running our team. I hope he keeps a diverse team. One thing is for sure the coaching staff went Anglo in a hurry!



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Posted 19 January 2006 - 09:02 PM

I guess the truth hurts.
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Posted 19 January 2006 - 09:09 PM

That last line gave me a little laugh, but I doubt Magnini is racist.
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Posted 19 January 2006 - 09:33 PM

I just want the team to be more diverse.
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Posted 19 January 2006 - 09:34 PM

Ok, can we please ban this guy now, he is now getting racial into his posts, he really needs to leave. It's obvious nobody likes him around here.
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Posted 20 January 2006 - 01:01 AM

QUOTE (richkotite2006 @ Jan 20 2006, 07:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I just want the team to be more diverse.


And that's cool. So do I, and so do I think most people rooting for the Jets. But just because those people hired are white, doesn't mean a whole lot. It could just mean Mangini thought those "crackers" were the best qualified.

By the way, I'm white, and I say cracker all the time. biggrin.gif
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Posted 20 January 2006 - 06:54 AM

I am not familiar with the word "cracker", please enlighten me.
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Posted 20 January 2006 - 08:31 AM

I was wondering what happened to Jetbag, I see he crawled out from under his rock with a new name!
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Posted 20 January 2006 - 09:59 AM

QUOTE (richkotite2006 @ Jan 19 2006, 09:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Meanwhile...with the Jets
Eric Mangini is getting rid of all the black coaches. I saw the picture of the 5 crackers running our team. I hope he keeps a diverse team. One thing is for sure the coaching staff went Anglo in a hurry!



Rich, I thought last week you were saying that Herm was hired because of affirmative action. Now you want to keep the coaching staff more diversified? Please tell me that your just takin the piss.

Cracker n : a poor white person in the southern US [syn: redneck]

The origins of the term are uncertain. the term may have come from the word corncracker, which describes someone who cracks corn for liquor, a common practice especially in early Appalachia. Wilton writes, "The song lyric 'Jimmy Crack Corn' is a reference to this. In the song, a slave sings about how his master got drunk, fell, hit his head, and died. And the slave 'don't care.' (This was a pretty subversive song for its day.) This usage, however, is probably not the origin of the ethnic term cracker"

Clarence Major, in his Dictionary of Afro-American Slang, lists an interesting idea about the origin of the term. The first is that a "cracker" was a slang term used by 19th Century Georgian slaves to refer to the slavemasters. If this were in fact, true, then the term would come directly from the cracking of the slavemaster's whip. This is quite a peculiar theory, because it would immediately explain the negative connotation that the word has taken. However, there seems to be little or no support for this theory, and no other source that was studied mentions it.

Before the Milwaukee Braves baseball team moved to Atlanta, the Atlanta minor league baseball team was known as the "Atlanta Crackers." The team existed under this name from 1901 until 1965. They were members of the Southern Association from their inception until 1961, and members of the International League from 1961 until they were moved to Richmond, Virginia in 1965. Ironically, an Atlanta team in Negro League Baseball was known as the Atlanta "Black Crackers."


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Posted 20 January 2006 - 10:03 AM

QUOTE (Canuck Jet @ Jan 20 2006, 08:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Rich, I thought last week you were saying that Herm was hired because of affirmative action. Now you want to keep the coaching staff more diversified? Please tell me that your just takin the piss.

Cracker n : a poor white person in the southern US [syn: redneck]

The origins of the term are uncertain. the term may have come from the word corncracker, which describes someone who cracks corn for liquor, a common practice especially in early Appalachia. Wilton writes, "The song lyric 'Jimmy Crack Corn' is a reference to this. In the song, a slave sings about how his master got drunk, fell, hit his head, and died. And the slave 'don't care.' (This was a pretty subversive song for its day.) This usage, however, is probably not the origin of the ethnic term cracker"

Clarence Major, in his Dictionary of Afro-American Slang, lists an interesting idea about the origin of the term. The first is that a "cracker" was a slang term used by 19th Century Georgian slaves to refer to the slavemasters. If this were in fact, true, then the term would come directly from the cracking of the slavemaster's whip. This is quite a peculiar theory, because it would immediately explain the negative connotation that the word has taken. However, there seems to be little or no support for this theory, and no other source that was studied mentions it.

Before the Milwaukee Braves baseball team moved to Atlanta, the Atlanta minor league baseball team was known as the "Atlanta Crackers." The team existed under this name from 1901 until 1965. They were members of the Southern Association from their inception until 1961, and members of the International League from 1961 until they were moved to Richmond, Virginia in 1965. Ironically, an Atlanta team in Negro League Baseball was known as the Atlanta "Black Crackers."
thats enough etymology and historical trivia for one day!


That was very informative, thank you. funny.gif I like thought of a slave owner dying from head trauma.
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Posted 20 January 2006 - 10:21 AM

Good stuff Canuck Jet.

On the main point of the article, don't you say that "Donnie needed to go" in another topic Rich? Considering that you belive so, and that the other coaches who were let go were in charge of underperforming units, I don't see how you could honestly believe that race played any part in it.

If you are just saying we need to be careful, I agree. While I don't believe race plays any part in Mangini's or the team's thought process they still need to be careful that the public doesn't get that impression.
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Posted 20 January 2006 - 10:22 AM

Unfortunately, I believe the term "Cracker" is a degrogatory term used to describe a "white" person. AKA Whip "Cracker" "Slave owner" I don't believe that believe that mr richkotite2006 meant it as friendly term. Maybe Mr RK2006 can refrain from using the "Cracker" term on this site. Any derogatory term used towards ANY Race is UNACCEPTABLE!!!!! Jetbag knows this!
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Posted 20 January 2006 - 10:54 AM

This asswipe definitely needs to go. The only reason he posts anymore is to incite something to cause trouble knowing that his posts are inflamatory.

What the hell does the fact that he's letting Donnie go have to do with race? Mangini was the DC in New England. I'm thinking his philosophy is different than that of Donnie, so rather than bumping heads, he released him to pursue a position elsewhere.

I don't like the decision myself as I think Donnie wa sdoing a great job with this Defense, but I'm not about to go accusing the man of being a racist without having something to back up my statements unlike some other people here that need to be on a permanent ban. Ban his IP address already!! Although the numbskull is probably on dial up therefore has an ever changing IP.
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Posted 20 January 2006 - 12:05 PM

Cracker was originally a pejorative term for a white person, mainly used in the Southern United States. In recent years (as of 2006), the term has gained some currency as a prideful or jocular self-description. With the huge influx of new residents from the North, the term "Cracker" is now used informally by some white residents of Florida and Georgia ("Florida cracker" or "Georgia cracker") to indicate that their family has lived there for many generations. (The term "White Cracker" is usually not used self referentially and remains a slur.) Usage of the term "Cracker" generally differs from Hick and Hillbilly, because Crackers reject or resist assimilation into the dominant culture, while Hicks and Hillbillies theoretically are isolated from the dominant culture. In this way, the Cracker is similar to the Redneck.

As an insult, cracker was and is used most frequently in the South, especially in Georgia and Florida. It is invoked typically against poor, white Americans without formal education and of rural backgrounds.-

However, today the term is commonly used as a racial epithet against white people throughout the US, regardless of socio-economic status, ethnicity or geographic origins.


Etymology
There are various theories about the origin of the term "cracker." The term has been traced to the 1760s, when it was used by the Earl of Dartmouth to refer to frontiersmen who were "great boasters." It may be derived from the Gaelic "craic," meaning "entertaining conversation."

A folk etymology claims the term cracker originated from piney-woods Georgia and Florida pastoral yeomen's use of whips to drive cattle. The word then came to be associated with the cattlemen of Georgia and Florida.

Other theories include references to cracking a whip over oxen when driving cotton to market, the 18th century practice of cracking corn to make liquor, or to poor whites having had to crack their grain because they couldn't afford to take it to the local mill to have it ground. Others suggest that "cracker" derives from the white overseers who cracked the whip to intimidate black slaves. There may also be another possible origin - the first residents of Georgia were British convicts. In this setting the word takes on an illegal or criminal context. The term was used by Charles Darwin in The Origin of Species to refer to "Virginia squatters" (illegal settlers).

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Posted 20 January 2006 - 12:45 PM

Hey I got an idea!!!!. How about we GET OFF of the Herm Edwards talk's and topic's. I don't think any Jet fan give 2 shit's what he's doing now and for somebody who hated Herm you sure do keep bringing him up.

He must be on your mind.
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Posted 20 January 2006 - 12:47 PM

QUOTE (jetman18 @ Jan 20 2006, 09:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I was wondering what happened to Jetbag, I see he crawled out from under his rock with a new name!


Don't ever compare this fool to Jetfannobagoverhead.
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Posted 20 January 2006 - 12:49 PM

Lets see...Eric Mangini gets hired and he's white. He fires 2 black coaches and keeps the 1 white coach. The black defensive coordinator was far superior than the white offensive coordinator in every possible statistic.
The white offesnive coordinator doesn't even want to be there! He should have fired everyone!

It is all about race. Only those people who dismiss it are the ones that are blind and do not want to see.

Head Coaching Hires

Jets: Mangini is white
Saints: Payton is white
Lions: Marinelli is white
Packers: MCarthy is white
Vikings: Childress is white
Bills: To be determined white person
Rams: Linehan is white
Texans: to be determined white person
Raiders: to be determined white person

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that everyone is afraid to hire a black head coach becuase Herman Edwards burned bridges.
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Posted 20 January 2006 - 12:56 PM

I think he meant the crackers are Bradway, Tennenbaum, Woody Johnson, Mangini and Jay Cross



QUOTE (richkotite2006 @ Jan 20 2006, 06:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Lets see...Eric Mangini gets hired and he's white. He fires 2 black coaches and keeps the 1 white coach. The black defensive coordinator was far superior than the white offensive coordinator in every possible statistic.
The white offesnive coordinator doesn't even want to be there! He should have fired everyone!

It is all about race. Only those people who dismiss it are the ones that are blind and do not want to see.

Head Coaching Hires

Jets: Mangini is white
Saints: Payton is white
Lions: Marinelli is white
Packers: MCarthy is white
Vikings: Childress is white
Bills: To be determined white person
Rams: Linehan is white
Texans: to be determined white person
Raiders: to be determined white person

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that everyone is afraid to hire a black head coach becuase Herman Edwards burned bridges.


What about Dungy, Edwards, Lovie Smith, Marvin Lewis, Denny Green and Romeo Crennel then? Shut up about race because nowadays it isn't an issue in HC hiring. Tim Lewis, Ron Rivera,Donnie, Mike Singletary and Jim Gray are just a few guys who are hispanic or black that will probably be HCs soon and all (and others) were interviewed for the current vacancies.
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