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MikeGangGree... Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:09 AM) good
MikeGangGree... Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:09 AM) Best day of the week is the day after a Jets Win!
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:12 AM) Rob you think the offense started off ugly? we scored on our first 4 drives, and controlled the ball 80% of the time the first half. We didn't even punt until the 2nd half
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:21 AM) I meant the hits on Fitz at on the first Drive or two with the fumbles and almost fumbles....The Tom Brady rule where balls that used to be fumbles are incomplete. We recovered the ball on all but one but it was ruled incomplete
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:26 AM) The offensive line stepped off after Hughes got hurt for however long he was out. I don't blame J. Marsh for that fumble because that was just a hell of a play. Imo Fitz had a career best game even with only 1 td passing. Never seen him so accurate. So yeah when I meant ugly I meant dline penetration and the 1st two drives ending up in fieldgoals
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:30 AM) But 31 points given up passing by the defense passing was bad. It wasn't just 2 long bombs and that defensive touchdown leading to 21 points. 3q1 against a bad team was terrible for the defense. Without the offense putting up 37 the Jets,would have lost so yeah I consider it an ugly start on both ends
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:32 AM) I'm glad like everyone else that the Jets won. Especially with getting with by the Bills multiple times it was nice revenge.
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:34 AM) Just saying that the Bills look like a bad team this year and the Jets have to face a lot of teams that are probably playoff bound again so yes there is a lot of concern
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 11:39 AM) fitz look good and lets not forget the 50+ yarder to decker that was called back on a BS holding penalty. plus if you rewatch it, the jets d-line was getting held like crazy and never got calls. I seen McLendon, williams, and wilk all complaining about it
azjetfan Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:32 PM) I think the game plan for the D was to keep Taylor in the pocker
azjetfan Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:33 PM) They didn't want him running around when they only rushed 3-4 guts
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:37 PM) bills fired their OC today after the loss yesterday lol
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:38 PM) yeah we didn't really rush, we just tried to keep contain on the outside and collapse the middle
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:38 PM) on the salas TD, one of our LBers went for the sack and broke contain and pryor got away and made the play
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:39 PM) when we did rush which was rare, we had a spy
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 11:11 PM) As far as the Bills firing the oc I'm not sure I agree with it with Watkins having major foot problem with a steel rod in his surgically repaired foot but I dont follow the Bills so cant really say. I do think they need to get rid of Rob Ryan though. He had a decent year with the Browns then was terrible with the Cowboys and Saints. He isn't half the DC that Rex is. I still think Rex can be a good head coach withe the right coaches and roster but Rob Ryan isn't the answer. But if Rex wants to ruin his chance of staying a head coach by keeping his brother on the coaching staff like he ruined his head coaching job keeping Sanchez as a starter then that's his stupidity
ganggreen2003 Icon : (17 September 2016 - 12:20 AM) The A Football Life of Curtis Martin is a MUST WATCH!!!!
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (17 September 2016 - 02:03 PM) They got rid of their OC after their defense was ripped apart
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:03 PM) Well hell that makes even less sense. The defense gets ripped apart so let's get rid of the oc instead of the dc.they didn't have much of a run game but a lot of passes yards. If they wanted to blame anyone for nearly 40 points against them it was their defense. But guess Rex used the ocean as the scale goat instead of his brother
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:04 PM) Oc not ocean. Damn Auto correct on phone
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:04 PM) And scape goatee
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:05 PM) Lol still can't get it right
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:13 PM) Not sure about anyone else but I'm extremely interested in the 49r/ Panther game at 1pm. Just want to see if the 49rs are actually good this year or if the Rams have become one of the worst teams in the league this year
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:16 PM) If the Rams have regressed that much then all the Todd Gurley owners in fantasy will likely have low points from him all year. Might even be worth trying to trade him early if they look just as bad this week before his stock drops
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:26 PM) I drafted him last year and also had David Johnson, Chris Johnson, Roetlesburger, Romo, Palmer, Barnage,, .....my whole team was stacked with starters. Entire team wasc stacked with starters. Even bench. Made tge Superbowl but did have a rough start at behinning of season when Romo and Roethlisberger wentvdown at the start of season also lost amazing starting rb and wr all within the 1st 4 games but worked the waivers really well..shut out until garbage time by a team that was terrible last year
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:28 PM) Last part meant Rams were shut out entire game even in garbage time against 49r backups
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:29 PM) Sorry about typos. Hard to type on small phone screen
MikeGangGree... Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:00 PM) This is why I'm glad Rex is gone. Fire the OC after the D gives up 500 yards??
MikeGangGree... Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:01 PM) UPDATE THE UPDATE!!!!
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:25 PM) Yep Rex isn't a bad coach but he needs to have all player and coach decisions as far as firing and hiring taken out of his hands. His problem is he doesn't know to separate the job from loyalty to players and is unable to let underperforming players go
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:27 PM) He was great as a DC because he wasn't in charge of roster and firing decisions. He will never make it as a good head coach until he can get rid of loyalty and run a team like any boss runs a business.
azjetfan Icon : (17 September 2016 - 07:16 PM) I loved Rex as a person. But he is severely handicapped in his skill set as a HC. He has not adapted and will not adapt. That's why he isn't here and will be fired from Buffalo.
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:05 AM) It's all guessing and I will like likely stick with my two starters that are injured and playing but D.Thomas looks like he is still in a lot of pain and Stewart is still in the locker room getting ankle treatment so both could be on a snap count
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:06 AM) I have good wr's on bench and good rb's on bench but they have bad matchups. Do t trust Diggs against Greenbay or Doug Martin against Arizona both on bench
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:08 AM) If I made changes I have Crabtree for Oakland Aagainst Atlanta and Abdullah for Detroit against 49rs as my two options I would choose if I made any changes
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:10 AM) Actually have it backwards with my running back teams
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:12 AM) Detroit vs Titans who I believe has a legit defense. Panthers have a better team but the ankle for Stewart and both the Titans and 49rs are ranked #1 against the run. Not a believer in the 49rs defensesthough
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:13 AM) Believe the Rams oline just sucks
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:15 AM) Abdullah splits carries but he did get 17 last week and also catches a lot of passes and has a better qb so could exploit the Titans still
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:16 AM) Will most likely do my own thing anyway just looking for input from those that actually study in fantasy if anyone feels like offering their opinions. If not it's cool too. Thanks
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:18 AM) If not for the injuries to the two players I'd keep them in for sure but all it takes for Thomas is a hit to the hip and a tackle by the ankle for Stewart if they aren't on a snap count already or if pain doesn't get to them.
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 12:45 PM) Well looks like leaving in Stewart was,a,bad move in locker room
MikeGangGree... Icon : (18 September 2016 - 04:54 PM) Good news! Dolphins suck
santana Icon : (19 September 2016 - 08:08 AM) Thanks professor
Jetsfan115 Icon : (23 September 2016 - 03:55 PM) updated roster. FB howsare released, TE bowman added to roster
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Posted 19 January 2007 - 01:31 AM

He's most likely a free agent this offseason...what would you guys think of bringing him if he came relatively cheap?

I don't think it would be the best idea ever...he is small like Vilma...and two small ILB's in the 3-4 sounds like a bad idea to me. Perhaps Vilma could learn a thing or two about shedding blocks at such a small size. But eh...I think Vilma will be fine.

I'd personally rather move Hobson inside as many on this board have mentioned...and go after one of the pass rushing OLB's in the second round. Barton can be traded to a 4-3 team like the Jaguars, Eagles, or Rams. All 3 have deep playoff aspirations and I'm sure would love to add a veteran to their weakened OLB'ers.
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Posted 19 January 2007 - 02:35 AM

He's a pro-bowl MLB in 2003 who has had great success in 3-4 not to mention speed that we desperately need and some veteran leadership.......But most importantly he is a huge upgrade over kassell and barton......I would actually rather have him over A Thomas....So yea im all for him joing the JETS
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Posted 19 January 2007 - 04:26 AM

This is old news. I brought this up during the season. I think he's an all world LB but he's undersized similar to Vilma. IMO we need to get bigger and nastier up front. Donnie is more of a coverage LB then anything else. He used to play in space. We need some dogs upfront and no disrespect to Donnie but he gets to reap the rewards of having a great N.T and a damn good supporting cast that has been implemented in a 3-4 for a few years now. it doesn't mean he would be as productive here as he would in S.D. Just my 2 cents.
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Posted 19 January 2007 - 01:02 PM

we are in a youth movement. we do not need a 34 year old linebacker. plus, i agree with whats been said. nothing is going to make a difference without a proper 3-4 line which means gettin a huge, effective nose tackle. and as a former pro bowler and someone whos been in the league so long and is still performing at a relatively high level, he is going to want A LOT of money.

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Posted 19 January 2007 - 01:39 PM

QUOTE (ellisjersey92 @ Jan 19 2007, 02:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
we are in a youth movement. we do not need a 34 year old linebacker. plus, i agree with whats been said. nothing is going to make a difference without a proper 3-4 line which means gettin a huge, effective nose tackle. and as a former pro bowler and someone whos been in the league so long and is still performing at a relatively high level, he is going to want A LOT of money.


this guy is right on the money. we are a young team which is one main reason why we do not want to sign adalius thomas this offseason. he just wouldn't fit in with the youth movement we started last season. also, hes not even that good anymore, and with his age, his production must be on the downslide. we are talking about getting rid of eric barton who will be 30 this season. no way we can use edwards who is much older than that.
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Posted 19 January 2007 - 10:18 PM

we should only think about bringing him in if he is gonna be cheap which he probally wont be
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Posted 20 January 2007 - 06:25 AM

QUOTE (ellisjersey92 @ Jan 19 2007, 01:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
we are in a youth movement. we do not need a 34 year old linebacker. plus, i agree with whats been said. nothing is going to make a difference without a proper 3-4 line which means gettin a huge, effective nose tackle. and as a former pro bowler and someone whos been in the league so long and is still performing at a relatively high level, he is going to want A LOT of money.



the only way i think we should bring him in is if his contract is favorable, meaning if hes unproductive (which i highly doubt) we can cut him next season without taking much of a cap hit...................i do agree with you guys that this team is in a youth movement and should keep that going but with that said if there is one huge flaw in the D besides NT its that we dont have a wily vet that brings leadership with his play and voice in the locker room..and there is only a few positions that we can fix in free agency..... as there is no NT that can match the success or bring the upside that this guy could bring to the team.....i know alot of people think SANDs is the man but as i was well schooled on by people on this site size is not what makes a NT and he has never played in the 3-4 before ......Kimo is a vet but he certainly doesnt show it on the field....Edwards is a guy that has had great success before he met Jamal williams as he was a pro-bowler with the chiefs in 03' and in the 3-4...and his biggest attribute on this team could be the mentoring of Vilma....we know Vilma is frustrated in the 3-4 but this guy could show vilma the nuances of being a great 3-4 mlb....as great as ray lewis is he struggled mightily in the 3-4 and was never half the player he was in the 4-3 because he gave up on it and whinned until they reverted back to the 4-3.....It would be a very wise investment IMO to team vilma up with somebody who has had tremendous experience and success with it.....not to mention that we will get younger anyway at OLB in this years draft and eventually going to get rid of barton this year or next so Edwards "knowledge" of the 3-4 and MLB could be invaluable..........we can all agree that mangini is going to be the HC here for a very long time which means so will the 3-4 defense and it would be ashame if Vilma could not reach the potential of being the best MLB in the game which i think he has because he doesnt know the nuances of the system and decides to leave for a team that employs a system that is better suited for his style of play.....signing Edwards wouldnt be bringing in just another "old guy" but a player who still has pro-bowl ability and could help Vilma be twice the player he is now....if you ask me he is worth every cent he wants in that aspect alone..............not to mention he is 1000000000000000 times better than kassell LOL..........but really you cant expect a time full of young guys to be successfull in a new system especially without 2-3 guys who can be a mentor and play well in it
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Posted 20 January 2007 - 02:50 PM

QUOTE (kobeskool @ Jan 19 2007, 10:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
we should only think about bringing him in if he is gonna be cheap which he probally wont be

iagree.gif and to the ppl saying were trying to do a whole youth movement thing, still, y not for a couple years just make an improvment on a LB position, like get rid of barton or hobson for edwards or soemthin like that
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Posted 20 January 2007 - 04:06 PM

why would we sign a 34 year old LBer?
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Posted 20 January 2007 - 09:07 PM

QUOTE (Jetsfan115 @ Jan 20 2007, 04:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
why would we sign a 34 year old LBer?

to help r LB core, that is if we can get him for cheap, and just have him fro a year or a couple more
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Posted 20 January 2007 - 09:52 PM

QUOTE (Jetsfan115 @ Jan 20 2007, 04:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
why would we sign a 34 year old LBer?


because he's one of the best whose doing it right now in the 3-4, can teach vilma, be a leader and is aging like a fine wine..
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Posted 20 January 2007 - 09:58 PM

his career is over. he slipped this year. i watch all the chargers games (since i live in SD) and donnie was not the same player he used to be. he is declining. if we signed him he'd be average at best. at this point barton is better. u guy seem to forget how good barton is
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Posted 20 January 2007 - 10:14 PM

i thought we were going to cut or trade barton? and Edwards had 142 tackles, 3 int, and 2 ff, thats a great year
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Posted 20 January 2007 - 10:47 PM

QUOTE (Jetsfan115 @ Jan 20 2007, 10:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
his career is over. he slipped this year. i watch all the chargers games (since i live in SD) and donnie was not the same player he used to be. he is declining. if we signed him he'd be average at best. at this point barton is better. u guy seem to forget how good barton is

i aggree barton is good but i think edwards is better so tahts y i said it, id much rather get rid of hobson than barton, hobsons ok too but again i think edwards is better
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Posted 21 January 2007 - 01:44 AM

QUOTE (JetsMan4012 @ Jan 20 2007, 11:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i aggree barton is good but i think edwards is better so tahts y i said it, id much rather get rid of hobson than barton, hobsons ok too but again i think edwards is better

Hobson was very good at the end of the year and I know it's been said a hundred times, but Hobson should move inside. He is a good tackler, which ILBs need to be to stop the run. Edwards is gonna be 34 when TC starts and Hobson is gonna be 27 and Hobson will be much cheaper. I'd pass on Edwards personally.
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Posted 21 January 2007 - 06:26 PM

I think it would be a good move, hes a beast and great LB, screw size u want to talk about size talk about Sam Mills, smallest LB but best when he played. So get this undersized bs off here.

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