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Posted 22 January 2007 - 03:28 PM

SENIOR BOWL WEIGH INS: Just talked to one of my contacts at the Senior Bowl and he was there for the weigh ins for the North team roster. Among the more impressive looking players was Louisville DT Amobi Okoye. Checking in at 6'2" 287 he's likely more of a three-technique tackle than a nose tackle, but he's apparently built like a rock. Plus he's just 19 years old, so I'm going to guess he could fill out some more as he gets older.

Among the other North players who passed the eyeball test were Penn State LB Paul Pozluszny and RB Tony Hunt. Hunt was over 6'1" and a solidly put together 239. Pozluszny meanwhile has added muscle and checked in at 237. Wake Forest S Josh Gattis, Syracuse CB Tanard Jackson, Pitt LB H.B. Blades, Nebraska LB Stewart Bradley and DE Jay Moore, Michigan LB Prescott Burgess, Fresno St. CB Marcus McCauley were among the most fit looking players.


Once Okoye dropped the weight he became a dominator, he is no NT.
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Posted 22 January 2007 - 04:09 PM

How did Troy Smith measure?
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Posted 22 January 2007 - 04:10 PM

QUOTE (BradSmith16 @ Jan 22 2007, 04:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
How did Troy Smith measure?

first off may i say THIS SUCKS about okoye and second off, it doesnt matter about troy smith's measure, hes a QB, (well it matters but not as much as NT)
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Posted 22 January 2007 - 04:29 PM

QUOTE (BradSmith16 @ Jan 22 2007, 04:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
How did Troy Smith measure?


6 foot exact
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Posted 22 January 2007 - 04:37 PM

QUOTE (JetsMan4012 @ Jan 22 2007, 04:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
first off may i say THIS SUCKS about okoye and second off, it doesnt matter about troy smith's measure, hes a QB, (well it matters but not as much as NT)



He doesn't want to be a space eater he wants 3 technique tackle money
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Posted 22 January 2007 - 05:08 PM

Doesnt mean anything, since he probaly dropped weight during the season.
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Posted 22 January 2007 - 05:31 PM

QUOTE (Jetsfan0099 @ Jan 22 2007, 05:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Doesnt mean anything, since he probaly dropped weight during the season.


It does mean something. He was 320 before the college season I'm pretty sure and he's dropped 40lbs. That's crazy. It's obvious he want's to get DT or DE money.
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Posted 22 January 2007 - 05:38 PM

He was probly never as high as 320, they list people bigger than they are all the time. Either way he is not the answer at NT.
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Posted 22 January 2007 - 05:46 PM

watching the senior bowl practices a guy impressed me because he killed Okoye, Josh Beekman, G from B.C.
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Posted 22 January 2007 - 07:02 PM

The highest I seen Okoye weight is 317. Ferguson dropped like 30 pounds during the season, he weighed in at 313 then went to under 290.
Okoy probaly just dropped some weight, but he will be best served to gain some weight, because he is a natural NT. The way he plays is by taking blockers on and not being pushed. He is a NT, he would be the NT for the 4-3 also.
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Posted 22 January 2007 - 07:07 PM

QUOTE (Jetsfan0099 @ Jan 22 2007, 07:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The highest I seen Okoye weight is 317. Ferguson dropped like 30 pounds during the season, he weighed in at 313 then went to under 290.

Right, and when Brick lost that weight he started getting thrown around like a rag doll. Okoye is young, so he will put on weight as he gets older, but if he can't keep weight on during the season that is absolutely a cause for concern.
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Posted 22 January 2007 - 07:14 PM

QUOTE (VaNDelaYInDusTrIEs @ Jan 22 2007, 07:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Right, and when Brick lost that weight he started getting thrown around like a rag doll. Okoye is young, so he will put on weight as he gets older, but if he can't keep weight on during the season that is absolutely a cause for concern.

Alot of people have trouble keeping the weight during the season. Its something alot of the younger players usually have more trouble with. Okoye also could of lost weight to kind of look in better shape to put his draft stock up, Idk.......
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Posted 22 January 2007 - 07:17 PM

What time and on what channels do they show the practices.

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Posted 22 January 2007 - 07:19 PM

QUOTE (Jetsfan0099 @ Jan 22 2007, 07:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Alot of people have trouble keeping the weight during the season. Its something alot of the younger players usually have more trouble with. Okoye also could of lost weight to kind of look in better shape to put his draft stock up, Idk.......


Okoye lost the weight during the season, he played most of the season in the 290 area and thats why he was so good this year. With his weight loss he became a lot quicker and looked more natural at that weight. Okoye is not a NT, he is a good penetrator that is also good in the run game. I think a good comparison for him is Anthony McFarland.
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Posted 22 January 2007 - 07:40 PM

Mcfarland is a NT is he not?
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Posted 22 January 2007 - 07:42 PM

QUOTE (Jetsfan0099 @ Jan 22 2007, 08:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Mcfarland is a NT is he not?


yeah a cover 2 NT, not a 3-4. I can see Okoye as cover 2 NT.
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Posted 22 January 2007 - 07:49 PM

QUOTE (Fatman @ Jan 22 2007, 07:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
What time and on what channels do they show the practices.

last year they showed them on ESPN or ESPN2 if i remember correctly, not sure if its the same this year, and idk when they begin but whenever i got home i watched them last year, and i got home at like 3:00 or so in the evening
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Posted 22 January 2007 - 08:33 PM

Guys...Okoye dropped the weight on purpose because of the role he was playing in the defensive scheme. This isn't new info...we knew this...he can gain the weight if need be. He is a natural space eater and 2 gap defensive linemen...he isn't trying to be something else.
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Posted 22 January 2007 - 09:08 PM

QUOTE (JetsMan4012 @ Jan 22 2007, 08:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
last year they showed them on ESPN or ESPN2 if i remember correctly, not sure if its the same this year, and idk when they begin but whenever i got home i watched them last year, and i got home at like 3:00 or so in the evening

Yea its been like that for the last 2 to 3 years that I can remember, but this year everything is going over to NFL network, which is gay because College football isnt NFL technically..... Plus Cable is being gay and wont get NFL Network. NFL network, stole the Rutgers game too....... I couldnt get to see them play in the bowl game because of that shit..

QUOTE (HurricaneJet32 @ Jan 22 2007, 09:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Guys...Okoye dropped the weight on purpose because of the role he was playing in the defensive scheme. This isn't new info...we knew this...he can gain the weight if need be. He is a natural space eater and 2 gap defensive linemen...he isn't trying to be something else.

Thats what I thought, all of his scouting reports say he is a good fit for a 3-4 NT.
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Posted 22 January 2007 - 09:45 PM

QUOTE (Jetsfan0099 @ Jan 22 2007, 09:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yea its been like that for the last 2 to 3 years that I can remember, but this year everything is going over to NFL network, which is gay because College football isnt NFL technically..... Plus Cable is being gay and wont get NFL Network. NFL network, stole the Rutgers game too....... I couldnt get to see them play in the bowl game because of that shit..
Thats what I thought, all of his scouting reports say he is a good fit for a 3-4 NT.

that pisses me off! if i interperted this right which i believe i did, that means the practices r not on ESPN any more and on NFL Network, which even if i would pay the money i cant cause i got digital cable blowup.gif
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