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MikeGangGree... Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:09 AM) good
MikeGangGree... Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:09 AM) Best day of the week is the day after a Jets Win!
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:12 AM) Rob you think the offense started off ugly? we scored on our first 4 drives, and controlled the ball 80% of the time the first half. We didn't even punt until the 2nd half
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:21 AM) I meant the hits on Fitz at on the first Drive or two with the fumbles and almost fumbles....The Tom Brady rule where balls that used to be fumbles are incomplete. We recovered the ball on all but one but it was ruled incomplete
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:26 AM) The offensive line stepped off after Hughes got hurt for however long he was out. I don't blame J. Marsh for that fumble because that was just a hell of a play. Imo Fitz had a career best game even with only 1 td passing. Never seen him so accurate. So yeah when I meant ugly I meant dline penetration and the 1st two drives ending up in fieldgoals
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:30 AM) But 31 points given up passing by the defense passing was bad. It wasn't just 2 long bombs and that defensive touchdown leading to 21 points. 3q1 against a bad team was terrible for the defense. Without the offense putting up 37 the Jets,would have lost so yeah I consider it an ugly start on both ends
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:32 AM) I'm glad like everyone else that the Jets won. Especially with getting with by the Bills multiple times it was nice revenge.
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:34 AM) Just saying that the Bills look like a bad team this year and the Jets have to face a lot of teams that are probably playoff bound again so yes there is a lot of concern
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 11:39 AM) fitz look good and lets not forget the 50+ yarder to decker that was called back on a BS holding penalty. plus if you rewatch it, the jets d-line was getting held like crazy and never got calls. I seen McLendon, williams, and wilk all complaining about it
azjetfan Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:32 PM) I think the game plan for the D was to keep Taylor in the pocker
azjetfan Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:33 PM) They didn't want him running around when they only rushed 3-4 guts
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:37 PM) bills fired their OC today after the loss yesterday lol
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:38 PM) yeah we didn't really rush, we just tried to keep contain on the outside and collapse the middle
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:38 PM) on the salas TD, one of our LBers went for the sack and broke contain and pryor got away and made the play
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:39 PM) when we did rush which was rare, we had a spy
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 11:11 PM) As far as the Bills firing the oc I'm not sure I agree with it with Watkins having major foot problem with a steel rod in his surgically repaired foot but I dont follow the Bills so cant really say. I do think they need to get rid of Rob Ryan though. He had a decent year with the Browns then was terrible with the Cowboys and Saints. He isn't half the DC that Rex is. I still think Rex can be a good head coach withe the right coaches and roster but Rob Ryan isn't the answer. But if Rex wants to ruin his chance of staying a head coach by keeping his brother on the coaching staff like he ruined his head coaching job keeping Sanchez as a starter then that's his stupidity
ganggreen2003 Icon : (17 September 2016 - 12:20 AM) The A Football Life of Curtis Martin is a MUST WATCH!!!!
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (17 September 2016 - 02:03 PM) They got rid of their OC after their defense was ripped apart
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:03 PM) Well hell that makes even less sense. The defense gets ripped apart so let's get rid of the oc instead of the dc.they didn't have much of a run game but a lot of passes yards. If they wanted to blame anyone for nearly 40 points against them it was their defense. But guess Rex used the ocean as the scale goat instead of his brother
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:04 PM) Oc not ocean. Damn Auto correct on phone
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:04 PM) And scape goatee
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:05 PM) Lol still can't get it right
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:13 PM) Not sure about anyone else but I'm extremely interested in the 49r/ Panther game at 1pm. Just want to see if the 49rs are actually good this year or if the Rams have become one of the worst teams in the league this year
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:16 PM) If the Rams have regressed that much then all the Todd Gurley owners in fantasy will likely have low points from him all year. Might even be worth trying to trade him early if they look just as bad this week before his stock drops
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:26 PM) I drafted him last year and also had David Johnson, Chris Johnson, Roetlesburger, Romo, Palmer, Barnage,, .....my whole team was stacked with starters. Entire team wasc stacked with starters. Even bench. Made tge Superbowl but did have a rough start at behinning of season when Romo and Roethlisberger wentvdown at the start of season also lost amazing starting rb and wr all within the 1st 4 games but worked the waivers really well..shut out until garbage time by a team that was terrible last year
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:28 PM) Last part meant Rams were shut out entire game even in garbage time against 49r backups
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:29 PM) Sorry about typos. Hard to type on small phone screen
MikeGangGree... Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:00 PM) This is why I'm glad Rex is gone. Fire the OC after the D gives up 500 yards??
MikeGangGree... Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:01 PM) UPDATE THE UPDATE!!!!
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:25 PM) Yep Rex isn't a bad coach but he needs to have all player and coach decisions as far as firing and hiring taken out of his hands. His problem is he doesn't know to separate the job from loyalty to players and is unable to let underperforming players go
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:27 PM) He was great as a DC because he wasn't in charge of roster and firing decisions. He will never make it as a good head coach until he can get rid of loyalty and run a team like any boss runs a business.
azjetfan Icon : (17 September 2016 - 07:16 PM) I loved Rex as a person. But he is severely handicapped in his skill set as a HC. He has not adapted and will not adapt. That's why he isn't here and will be fired from Buffalo.
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:05 AM) It's all guessing and I will like likely stick with my two starters that are injured and playing but D.Thomas looks like he is still in a lot of pain and Stewart is still in the locker room getting ankle treatment so both could be on a snap count
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:06 AM) I have good wr's on bench and good rb's on bench but they have bad matchups. Do t trust Diggs against Greenbay or Doug Martin against Arizona both on bench
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:08 AM) If I made changes I have Crabtree for Oakland Aagainst Atlanta and Abdullah for Detroit against 49rs as my two options I would choose if I made any changes
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:10 AM) Actually have it backwards with my running back teams
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:12 AM) Detroit vs Titans who I believe has a legit defense. Panthers have a better team but the ankle for Stewart and both the Titans and 49rs are ranked #1 against the run. Not a believer in the 49rs defensesthough
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:13 AM) Believe the Rams oline just sucks
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:15 AM) Abdullah splits carries but he did get 17 last week and also catches a lot of passes and has a better qb so could exploit the Titans still
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:16 AM) Will most likely do my own thing anyway just looking for input from those that actually study in fantasy if anyone feels like offering their opinions. If not it's cool too. Thanks
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:18 AM) If not for the injuries to the two players I'd keep them in for sure but all it takes for Thomas is a hit to the hip and a tackle by the ankle for Stewart if they aren't on a snap count already or if pain doesn't get to them.
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 12:45 PM) Well looks like leaving in Stewart was,a,bad move in locker room
MikeGangGree... Icon : (18 September 2016 - 04:54 PM) Good news! Dolphins suck
santana Icon : (19 September 2016 - 08:08 AM) Thanks professor
Jetsfan115 Icon : (23 September 2016 - 03:55 PM) updated roster. FB howsare released, TE bowman added to roster
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#1 User is offline   jetman2327 Icon

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Posted 03 October 2005 - 05:54 PM

BOTTOM LINE IS....THE OFFENSIVE LINE IS THE PROBLEM. I DONT CARE WHAT QUARTERBACK U HAVE IN THERE THEY ARE GOING TO BE RUNNING FOR THEY'RE LIFE. I THINK VINNY MAY DO WORSE CAUSE HE CANT MOVE. IF YOU WATCHED THE GAMES CHAD WAS RUNNING FOR HIS LIFE. GOOD THING BROOKS CAN RUN OR HE WOULD HAVE BEEN SACKED 20 TIMES. CURTIS MARTIN IS NOT THAT BAD. NO WAY HE AGED THAT MUCH IN 6 MONTHS. GET RID OF FABINI, KENDALL, AND ADRIAN JONES. THEY ARE TERRIBLE. WATCH THE GAMES IF U DONT BELIEVE ME. ANYWAY GUYS WE HAVE WEAPONS BUT THE LINE IS IN TROUBLE. IF WE DONT DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT NOW WE WILL NOT WIN ANY GAMES AND IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE WE ARE GOING TO DO SOMETHING ANYTIME SOON. ITS A SAD SAD DAY.
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Posted 03 October 2005 - 05:58 PM

What else can I say other then, pass on Leinart, and Reggie Bush and draft D'Brickshaw Ferguson, guys like him do not come very often, so I'd want him on the Jets.
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Posted 03 October 2005 - 06:30 PM

Here's my plan for the draft:
First round- Running back
Second round- Offensive lineman
Third round- Quarterback.
But yeah, don't blame chad and Curtis for all of it, put some square on our line's.
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Posted 03 October 2005 - 06:37 PM

QUOTE (Chadforpresidentin08 @ Oct 4 2005, 12:05 AM)
Here's my plan for the draft:
First round- Running back
Second round- Offensive lineman
Third round- Quarterback.
But yeah, don't blame chad and Curtis for all of it, put some square on our line's.


Mine goes a little different

1st - OL
2nd - RB
3rd - QB

But pretty much the same thing in a different order. I never thought I would ever want us to get an offensive lineman so badly, in the first round.

I am not blaming Chad, in fact I am expecting him to be back next season. Curtis too, for another year or two.

I am sorry, but you just do not pass on good Offensive Lineman these days anymore, because only 1 a year that are something come out, and what are the chances that you can get them, well we got a chance to get D'Brickshaw Ferguson and thats who we should draft, this guy is a monster, trust me!
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Posted 03 October 2005 - 06:46 PM

The O-Line is definitely the biggest part of our problem. If they were better, we would not be on our 3rd string QB.. It's amazing that last season they led the way for the NFL's leading rusher and helped our QB lead our team to a missed FG away from the AFC championship game. I don't think there is anything that we can do this year other than schemes and stunts. Next year our #1` must be a monster offensive lineman. Without him, what good would it be to draft a RB or QB first. The OL must be a solid unit before you can run or pass.
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Posted 03 October 2005 - 06:50 PM

QUOTE (ANEWERA @ Oct 4 2005, 12:21 AM)
The O-Line is definitely the biggest part of our problem.  If they were better, we would not be on our 3rd string QB.. It's amazing that last season they led the way for the NFL's leading rusher and helped our QB lead our team to a missed FG away from the AFC championship game.  I don't think there is anything that we can do this year other than schemes and stunts.  Next year our #1` must be a monster offensive lineman.  Without him, what good would it be to draft a RB or QB first.  The OL must be a solid unit before you can run or pass.


Every thing you said about the offensive lineman describes D'Brickshaw Ferguson. I want this guy in a Jets jersey next year.
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Posted 03 October 2005 - 06:55 PM

jetman2327 you are so right the oline sucks, i had that feeling the oline was going to be a problem going into the season. the jets managment took the oline for granted and it shows. chad would have done better with good protection, the jets qb's are getting killed and curtis has no room to run .all you jets fan wake up it's not all chad or herm or curtis or the receivers falt, with out protection the jets offence can't do sh#t. curtis said it rite , it doesnt matter who the qb is it till wont get better.
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Posted 03 October 2005 - 07:01 PM

once i saw this topic i said to myself thats cpt. obvisous we need OT first round no matter what its a most than RB in the 2nd than 3rd another O line

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Posted 03 October 2005 - 07:38 PM

QUOTE (jetman2327 @ Oct 3 2005, 06:29 PM)
BOTTOM LINE IS....THE OFFENSIVE LINE IS THE PROBLEM. I DONT CARE WHAT QUARTERBACK U HAVE IN THERE THEY ARE GOING TO BE RUNNING FOR THEY'RE LIFE. I THINK VINNY MAY DO WORSE CAUSE HE CANT MOVE. IF YOU WATCHED THE GAMES CHAD WAS RUNNING FOR HIS LIFE. GOOD THING BROOKS CAN RUN OR HE WOULD HAVE BEEN SACKED 20 TIMES. CURTIS MARTIN IS NOT THAT BAD. NO WAY HE AGED THAT MUCH IN 6 MONTHS. GET RID OF FABINI, KENDALL, AND ADRIAN JONES. THEY ARE TERRIBLE. WATCH THE GAMES IF U DONT BELIEVE ME. ANYWAY GUYS WE HAVE WEAPONS BUT THE LINE IS IN TROUBLE. IF WE DONT DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT NOW WE WILL NOT WIN ANY GAMES AND IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE WE ARE GOING TO DO SOMETHING ANYTIME SOON. ITS A SAD SAD DAY.

I agree with some of what you said. yeah the oline has not played great but it hasn't been just them. chad has held on to the ball too long and so did brooks yesterday. they gave them time and they just kept the ball too long. our oline is not built to hold people that long. and curtis has not been good either. on the plays sunday when we were on the 1 yard line the first time. curtis ran right into the back of the offensive lineman when he could have hit the hole. you say that theres no way that curtis has got that bad in 6 months. well I can say the same thing about the oline. there's no way fabini mawae kendal and moore got that bad in 6 months. curtis is done. time to move on. no one wants to admit it but its true. the only reason he did so well last year was because the oline was amazing and brickhand becht was a good blocker. McKenzie helped also. so the oline isn't the whole problem. QB's stop holding the ball. curtis has his own issues.
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Posted 04 October 2005 - 08:44 AM

fabini sucked last year too. and we had becht helong out and he was a really good blocker
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Posted 04 October 2005 - 06:55 PM

even if fabini sucked last year. curtis still ran for 1600. so if he sucks this year why is he rushing for 30
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Posted 04 October 2005 - 07:01 PM

Fabini didn't suck last year, he actually played pretty solid on that line. The year before he was terrible though.
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Posted 04 October 2005 - 07:02 PM

theres nothing we can do about it now, just gotta tough it out this year and make the best of it and adress the LINE early and often next off season

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Posted 04 October 2005 - 07:03 PM

and im talking early as if dbrick n leinart is still on the board take dbrick

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Posted 04 October 2005 - 07:04 PM

QUOTE (triple3s @ Oct 4 2005, 06:30 PM)
even if fabini sucked last year. curtis still ran for 1600. so if he sucks this year why is he rushing for 30

Because we changed offenses? Because we let our best blocking TE go and signed a below average one? Because of troubles at QB? Because of a lost LT?

Or yes, Martin is just too old. Maybe he would play better in a motorized wheelchair...
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Posted 04 October 2005 - 07:05 PM

i dont see how he improved his speed in the off season either

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Posted 04 October 2005 - 07:45 PM

wait u guys have to be *beep*in kiddin me? the o lin eis the problem? def not. there fine. the only prob is that the temas were facing can afford to put 8 or 9 men in the box because they know our qbs cant throw downfeild!!!

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Posted 04 October 2005 - 07:50 PM

it doesnt help our oline rolling all over ther field like there in dandy lion heaven

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Posted 04 October 2005 - 08:10 PM

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BOTTOM LINE IS....THE OFFENSIVE LINE IS THE PROBLEM. I DONT CARE WHAT QUARTERBACK U HAVE IN THERE THEY ARE GOING TO BE RUNNING FOR THEY'RE LIFE. I THINK VINNY MAY DO WORSE CAUSE HE CANT MOVE. IF YOU WATCHED THE GAMES CHAD WAS RUNNING FOR HIS LIFE. GOOD THING BROOKS CAN RUN OR HE WOULD HAVE BEEN SACKED 20 TIMES. CURTIS MARTIN IS NOT THAT BAD. NO WAY HE AGED THAT MUCH IN 6 MONTHS. GET RID OF FABINI, KENDALL, AND ADRIAN JONES. THEY ARE TERRIBLE. WATCH THE GAMES IF U DONT BELIEVE ME. ANYWAY GUYS WE HAVE WEAPONS BUT THE LINE IS IN TROUBLE. IF WE DONT DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT NOW WE WILL NOT WIN ANY GAMES AND IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE WE ARE GOING TO DO SOMETHING ANYTIME SOON. ITS A SAD SAD DAY.


great post. i especially agree with the "CURTIS MARTIN IS NOT THAT BAD. NO WAY HE AGED THAT MUCH IN 6 MONTHS."

i hope that chad can return and start next year. it will help us with the cap and with the amount of players we'll need to draft. if chad can return we wont need a qb. i think we should get the best olineman out there in the first and maybe even the second. just get it over with so we don't have to *beep* around anymore.

if you guys want to see a good oline then watch the eagles oline at work. a guy named andrews is their right guard and he was picked up by the eagles in the first round of the '04 draft. someone fell on his leg the first game of last season so he was out last year but this year he's unbelievable. i was watching the eagles/niners game and i couldn't believe what i saw. usually the 4 dlineman go up against the ots and guards. andrews is so good that the niner dline didn't even bother trying to rush him the whole game. the left de and left dt of the niners kept on rushing the right ot and the center of the eagles leaving andrews alone to look for someone to block. this happened just about every play too. when you have that strong of an oline the defense wont even try to blitz. they know that their time is better spent trying to disrupt the pass at the reciever and not the qb. i think that mawae and moore are the only guys that are playing top notch ball at this point. people blitz us so much because we cant stop them. if we could stop them we would burn them downfield and then they'd stop doing it so much.
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Posted 04 October 2005 - 10:34 PM

the problem is that the jets did horrible in the draft. instead of getting adam terry they got nugent. and nugent slips and falls on 30 yard field goal attempts. and also he kicks kickoffs to the 20 yard line. and he kicks them out of bounds
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