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JETS LACK OF REDZONE OFFENSE STILL CURSING THE DEFENSE
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 10:42 PM) That's bullshit
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 10:43 PM) On the bright side we get to play Detroit, San Diego, NE and denver in our next 4 games
Mr_Jet Icon : (Yesterday, 10:44 PM) Oh look the refs gave the Jets another timeout. A timeout the Jets didn't even have. SMDH
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 10:45 PM) Until we get rid of geno smith we are going nowhere. Bottom line. Dude is more erratic than romo
Mr_Jet Icon : (Yesterday, 10:45 PM) I'm really not feeling Geno Smith.
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 10:45 PM) Or any other QB in the league. Trade for Sanchez Now!
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 10:45 PM) We'd be 3-0 with Sanchez
SokeSleezy Icon : (Yesterday, 10:46 PM) Geno's needs to work on his accuracy,Stafford gonna kill us next week smh
XvNukemHighvX Icon : (Yesterday, 10:46 PM) Yeah gonna go with a good old f*** Geno this week. He is still playing better than last year though
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 10:46 PM) People saying Sanchez sucks keep in mind he never had a chance to play in morningwegs system. He was held back by shottenheimer
Mr_Jet Icon : (Yesterday, 10:47 PM) This team will never have a franchise QB. We can't draft them and when we sign or trade for them, they're past their primes.
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 10:48 PM) well
XvNukemHighvX Icon : (Yesterday, 10:48 PM) Because we destoy any promise in our young QBs with our elite offensive support talent.
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 10:48 PM) TIME TO CHANGE THE DIAPER
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 10:48 PM) another game next week
Chaos Icon : (Yesterday, 10:48 PM) 3-0 with Sanchez? Oh god...we've gone there already?
Chaos Icon : (Yesterday, 10:49 PM) jets need more talent on O
Chaos Icon : (Yesterday, 10:49 PM) and some god damn DBs
Mr_Jet Icon : (Yesterday, 10:49 PM) Morninweg's system is get the offense going then throw a monkey wrench into things by putting the backup QB in there and f***ing up the offense's rhythm.
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 10:50 PM) Yes I went there. Geno spots these teams 7-10 points weekly and has turned the ball in the redzone 3 games in a row. If not for 2 dropped ints geno would have 4 picks. Dude sucks at best
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 10:51 PM) Then we got Chris ivory running like marshawn lynch out there and they sit him on the bench the whole fourth quarter
XvNukemHighvX Icon : (Yesterday, 10:52 PM) I'd like to use the same excuse I used for Sanchez. QB can't really do shit when your best WR would be a #3 if he was lucky on any other team
Chaos Icon : (Yesterday, 10:52 PM) yeah but sanchez was shell shcoked
Chaos Icon : (Yesterday, 10:52 PM) jets werent fixing him
XvNukemHighvX Icon : (Yesterday, 10:53 PM) Geno will be to after another year or two of this shit.
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 10:53 PM) What's kerleys contract like
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 10:53 PM) because if he's underpaid I don't see him sticking around
XvNukemHighvX Icon : (Yesterday, 10:54 PM) he only looks good because our O is so bad.
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 10:54 PM) I bet a lot of teams have their eye on him
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 10:56 PM) Decker doesn't need to play until he is completely healthy
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Yesterday, 10:58 PM) FIRE IDZIK
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 11:08 PM) How big was the Sheldon Richardson fumble recovery not being a TD. We quickly went three and out after that
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 11:43 PM) Idzik better not be stingy this offseason and address the biggest issues we have WR and Secondary
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 11:47 PM) King mo says he's ok, injury is minor
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Today, 09:21 AM) As a guy who has been on this site since its inception and is still not a moderator which I guess is cause I'm not part of the rat pack who runs this joint I think GENO should still be the starter.
mgjetman Icon : (Today, 10:19 AM) We still could have won this game with the bad calls. Geno just sucks. All the pick six's, missing wide open receivers, bad throws when they are fought. Stupid trick plays because they don't trust him.
santana Icon : (Today, 10:31 AM) I don't get his decision making
santana Icon : (Today, 10:32 AM) There were another 2-3 ints the bears were gifted but were dropped
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 11:22 AM) f***
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 11:22 AM) I had a blast at the game... just sucks we lost
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 11:22 AM) 1-3 when I go se them
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 11:32 AM) Refs fucked up the fumble for a TD. by calling it down the first time everyone in the stadium saw it as a fumble
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 11:33 AM) they need to just let them plays play out because they now look at every turnover
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 11:33 AM) If hes down they could just overturn it on the replay
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 11:33 AM) f*** Holmes to
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2 Round Nfldraftcountdown Mock Updated 1/18/07

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Posted 18 January 2007 - 02:14 PM

They have us taking:

DE/OLB Jarvis Moss
RB Kenny Irons
DE Ikiala Alama-Francis

http://www.nfldraftc.../mockdraft.html
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Posted 18 January 2007 - 02:22 PM

I kind of like that one...minus the Kenny Irons pick. That guy is a bum in my opinion!

Hell...I'd rather see Brian Leonard...or even Michael Bush that Kenny Irons!!!

Only problem is the reports of the Jets moving D Rob to DE...meaning we probably wouldn't take on that early. But I wouldn't rule it out either...

Moss would really improve our linebacking corps...because as many of us speculate...Hobson could move inside...those 4 would be a strength of the defense.
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Posted 18 January 2007 - 02:27 PM

I'd like Moss there, and if the draft plays out like that then I'd like Spencer or Woodley where he has us taking Irons. Even though Francis from Hawaii is a nice big body to place at DE. And then maybe a RB with our 3rd pick. I'm nice crazy about Irons, but if he runs well in his workouts I could see him and Leon being a nice combo.
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Posted 18 January 2007 - 02:36 PM

i like our picks especially moss that guy killed troy smith with the exception of kenny irons......the guy reminds me of Darius "Frank" walker...he's the next coming of kevin faulk.....but besides that i dont like this mock draft all that much....they got brady quinn going third to the brown but he'll probably go 10-15 the way leinart slipped before the draft last year.....and wow they have us taking irons over bush thats crazy
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Posted 18 January 2007 - 02:47 PM

I'd rather see our first picks looking like this in the second round, with Moss being our first:

2nd round A: Michael Bush
2nd round B: Brian Leonard

Brian Leonard I think would be great for Pennington. Leonard is the type of fullback that catches balls on short passes, and as we all know, thats what Chad does. Bush would help out our running game, and we could then drop Barlow, and have the likes of Washington, and Houston. I think also, if we do draft Jarvis Moss, our front 7 would look like:

DE Robertson
NT Sands (oakland)
DE Ellis

OLB Thomas
ILB Vilma
ILB Barton/Hobson
OLB Moss

I think we should trade Barton because he's older than Vilma, and he's still I believe in his prime. If we could get one of the big two corners in free agency (Samuel/Clements). We'd be good there. Then all we would need to fix probably is our Right Tackle position.

Our needs basically this offseason are:

RB
NT
DE
FB
OLB
CB

With the money we have we can fix all those position this offseason.
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Posted 18 January 2007 - 02:51 PM

QUOTE (tipceey @ Jan 18 2007, 03:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i like our picks especially moss that guy killed troy smith with the exception of kenny irons......the guy reminds me of Darius "Frank" walker...he's the next coming of kevin faulk.....but besides that i dont like this mock draft all that much....they got brady quinn going third to the brown but he'll probably go 10-15 the way leinart slipped before the draft last year.....and wow they have us taking irons over bush thats crazy


I'd be surprised if Quinn fell past Detroit at 2, let alone the Browns at 3. I'd be shocked if he fell like Lienhart did last year. I hope everyone learned how dumb it was to pass on Lienhart. I can bet the Raiders are kicking themselves. So I really don't think Quinn falls very far, hell he still has a great shot at going number 1.
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Posted 18 January 2007 - 03:04 PM

I agree. Bush is a hoss. He finds the endzone and he's a big boy with some decent speed. I don't think the Jets pick another undersized back. They want a big bodied guy IMO to compliment Washington. No way do they pick Irons over Bush.

And I agree about Leonard. He'd be a good addition to the Offense. I'm not sold on Askew as a "blocking" fullback. I'm not sure how good Leonard is at that either so if he isn't a LB punisher then I don't want him because where would we use him? We need to amp up the running game and get more physical/violent in the process. Drafting Bush and a hard ass FB should take care of that issue. I'd rather see the Jets run game be punishing than anything else. Punishment through the run game is what won the Steelers a Superbowl along with a punishing Defense.
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Posted 18 January 2007 - 03:06 PM

QUOTE (NYJBlueHen @ Jan 18 2007, 03:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'd be surprised if Quinn fell past Detroit at 2, let alone the Browns at 3. I'd be shocked if he fell like Lienhart did last year. I hope everyone learned how dumb it was to pass on Lienhart. I can bet the Raiders are kicking themselves. So I really don't think Quinn falls very far, hell he still has a great shot at going number 1.



im not knockiing on Quinn becuz i actually think people dont realize that he played with no o-line............but the raiders are known for never taking rookie QB's in the 1st rd and raiders fans want them to take Calvin Johnson who is the no.1 player coming out and Jamarcus Russell is still ahead of him on every draft board...and after the browns there is not really any team who doesnt already have a QB..........in 04 Aaron Rodgers was supposed to get no.1 but slipped to 25 in a similar situation..
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Posted 18 January 2007 - 03:07 PM

Yeah really. Why is it that they think Davis wont select the best QB in the draft? Just because Russell has a big arm doesn't mean he's a better QB and to just judge his performance in 1 game at the end of the season... that's when people make mistakes. Sure he's got a big arm but I question his ability to be a real winner. A guy that can carry a team on his back and stand in the pocket and manage a pro offense. He's done none of that this year and Brady Quinn has done it two years in a row. Heisman trophy candidate... what more can you say? He should go number 1 overall and if he doesn't then Al Davis should just sell that Franchise because they'll suck for even a longer period of time.

My point: Russell is no where near #1 overall talent. Plain and simply put.
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Posted 18 January 2007 - 03:09 PM

QUOTE (jets0n @ Jan 18 2007, 03:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah really. Why is it that they think Davis wont select the best QB in the draft? Just because Russell has a big arm doesn't mean he's a better QB and to just judge his performance in 1 game at the end of the season... that's when people make mistakes. Sure he's got a big arm but I question his ability to be a real winner. A guy that can carry a team on his back and stand in the pocket and manage a pro offense. He's done none of that this year and Brady Quinn has done it two years in a row. Heisman trophy candidate... what more can you say? He should go number 1 overall and if he doesn't then Al Davis should just sell that Franchise because they'll suck for even a longer period of time.


cough..cough..Vince Young..cough...cough
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Posted 18 January 2007 - 03:11 PM

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cough..cough..Vince Young..cough...cough


What about Vince Young. He sucks horribly at QB. Just because he was the QB and had an underacheiving team rejuvinated doesn't mean he's a good QB. I look at stats mostly. His stats suck. Meaning when defenses force him to win as a QB he wont be able to do it.... sound like anyone we know....?
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Posted 18 January 2007 - 03:17 PM

QUOTE (jets0n @ Jan 18 2007, 03:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
What about Vince Young. He sucks horribly at QB. Just because he was the QB and had an underacheiving team rejuvinated doesn't mean he's a good QB. I look at stats mostly. His stats suck. Meaning when defenses force him to win as a QB he wont be able to do it.... sound like anyone we know....?



wow.........he just won a national championship and rookie of the year in back to back years all why carrying his teams on his back........i would take this guy over any young QB in a heart beat.... With that said Jamarcus Russell has BUST written all over him..he has one great game and suddenly he's no.1.......but if the raiders draft him if wouldnt be suprised b/c making dum decisions is what makes them the raiders
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Posted 18 January 2007 - 03:22 PM

QUOTE (NYJBlueHen @ Jan 18 2007, 08:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'd like Moss there, and if the draft plays out like that then I'd like Spencer or Woodley where he has us taking Irons. Even though Francis from Hawaii is a nice big body to place at DE. And then maybe a RB with our 3rd pick. I'm nice crazy about Irons, but if he runs well in his workouts I could see him and Leon being a nice combo.


Why would you do that? Remember Bryan Thomas had a great year and recorded nearly double digit sacks. I like the 1 and 2B picks in that mock for us but Irons is undersized and I too would take Bush over him.
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Posted 18 January 2007 - 03:28 PM

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Why would you do that? Remember Bryan Thomas had a great year and recorded nearly double digit sacks. I like the 1 and 2B picks in that mock for us but Irons is undersized and I too would take Bush over him.


OLB opposite Thomas and a DE to replace Kimo.
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Posted 18 January 2007 - 03:30 PM

QUOTE (NYJBlueHen @ Jan 18 2007, 09:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
OLB opposite Thomas and a DE to replace Kimo.


Neither Woodley or Spencer is big enough to be a 3-4 end though. 3-4 ends need to be at least above 290 lbs as they need to occupy blockers to allow the OLB's to get round the edge and to the QB.
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Posted 18 January 2007 - 03:33 PM

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Neither Woodley or Spencer is big enough to be a 3-4 end though. 3-4 ends need to be at least above 290 lbs as they need to occupy blockers to allow the OLB's to get round the edge and to the QB.


woodley and spencer are 3-4 olb...woodley was 3-4 olb in college
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Posted 18 January 2007 - 03:41 PM

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woodley and spencer are 3-4 olb...woodley was 3-4 olb in college


Spencer is 6'6 260. Woodley I can see him having more difficulty but he's still 6-2 270, both are plenty big to play DE in the 3-4, plus theyd give us huge versatility on D for when we go to 4 down linemen.
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Posted 18 January 2007 - 03:46 PM

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Spencer is 6'6 260. Woodley I can see him having more difficulty but he's still 6-2 270, both are plenty big to play DE in the 3-4, plus theyd give us huge versatility on D for when we go to 4 down linemen.



if those guys played DE we would be more athletic but we would get absolutely dominated at the line of scrimage....we wouldnt be able to stop Tom Couglin from running for 100 yards on our D
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Posted 18 January 2007 - 03:46 PM

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woodley and spencer are 3-4 olb...woodley was 3-4 olb in college


That's what I said. crazy.gif
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Posted 18 January 2007 - 03:53 PM

Agree to disagree then, I like the idea of filling our D with versatile athletic guys who can rush the passer, drop back, and can still play the run. I want a guys like Adalius Thomas who play all over the field.
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