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azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:52 AM) He is a good QB and I would love to have him. However IMO our 6 is not good value for us. Not to mention if he hates the idea of LA what is he going to think of NY? Contract situation would have to be worked out prior to trade as well. Extreme long shot to land Rivers. My money says we are more likely to land Brees.
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:53 AM) which is still a very long shot
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:46 AM) he may just hate ownership. LT's comments yesterday was interesting.
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) “I personally don’t think so,” Tomlinson said. “I really think this is a situation where Philip Rivers wants to move on. The reason why I think that and the reason why I feel like that is the Chargers have already approached Philip about doing another contract and he declined it. He doesn’t want anything to do with it; he didn’t even want to talk about another contract with the San Diego Chargers. That tells me that he’s thinking about moving on.”

“You never want to trade your franchise quarterback,” Tomlinson said, “that’s never the case. However, in this situation they might have no choice but to do so because I don’t know if Philip [Rivers] wants to be there anymore. I think he’s lost confidence in the organization. He’s seeing a lot of changes going on and the L.A. thing is valid; him not wanting to go to L.A., that is very valid, I can see that. So no, it doesn’t make sense to move on from Philip because he’s a franchise quarterback and he still has three to four very good years left.”
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) missed the LA line. nvm. guess that is a legit concern.
Mr_Jet Icon : (21 April 2015 - 03:57 PM) He doesn't want to play for a franchise based in Los Angeles, but he'd be okay with playing for one based in New York City?
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 04:28 PM) That's the point we have all been making.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:05 PM) Jets vs colts Monday night week2
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:09 PM) Jets open at home against the browns
ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:52 PM) Week 5 Bye after the London Game against the Dolphags
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) Rivers is likely going to Tennessee. Would LOVE to have him here but we likely won't make the trade. I'd easily give this year and next year
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) 's first rounder for him
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 11:03 AM) IMO that's a steep price. I would swap this years first and a conditional 1st next year. Assuming we make the AFC Championship. That would be a 28-32nd pick. Otherwise a second.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:07 PM) Yes 2 1st is a lot
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:10 PM) draft is next week, pumped
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:02 PM) What are thoughts on getting a RB in round 1? McShay's newest mock has us taking Gurley at 6. I don't think we should take him that high, but if we trade down and he's available I'd love to snag him, ACL and all. He's got an unreal skill set that, once healthy, will translate readily to the NFL. We're not getting a QB this year without paying a king's ransom, and unless we pay a ransom for a top guy I say ignore QB. I don't want us to take a Hundley or Petty type in the 2nd or 3rd round when we need other pieces (edge rush, OL)
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
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Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
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Posted 16 April 2005 - 02:20 PM

Anyone here watch Ultimate Fighting besides me here? If so, who's your pick for the fight tonight? Liddell or Couture? I'm rooting for Liddell by Judges Decision.
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Posted 17 April 2005 - 02:07 AM

What a great fight night......I saw it, was well worth the money.....
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Posted 18 April 2005 - 11:43 AM

QUOTE (JSOTF @ Apr 17 2005, 12:42 AM)
What a great fight night......I saw it, was well worth the money.....


It used to be so much better. I have UFC 1-4 on tape and its crazy. I seen like the first 8 or so but then stopped because they weren’t coming on PPV anymore but then all of a sudden I seen like UFC number 30 and it all changed. Back at the beginning there was no weight class. I seen 2 fight that put skinny guys (like 150-170 pounds) against sumo wrestlers (300-350lbs) it was crazy. People got messed up badly. One guy broke his hand from hitting the other guy on the back of the head so much and the ref didn’t stop it. Then when he broke his hand he started elbowing the guy. And in another fight this guy was on the groung on hos hands and knees trying to get up and the other guy kickeh him in the mouth and a couple of his teeth went flying out. My friends though it was faked until they seen that. I don’t like it too much anymore its become kinda a spectacle like wrestling and sadly boxing. I’m really young (20 years old) but I miss the good old days. I used to watch mike Tyson box since I was a kid and he was mighty mike Tyson. Now he is a phsyco and hardly as good as he was. Its really sad to watch sports u used to love get changed and u start losing interest. I hope the NFL doesn’t do anything like that.
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Posted 18 April 2005 - 12:18 PM

Jetsfan115,
DID YOU EVEN WATCH IT?
OR MAYBE THE FIGHT LAST WEEK?
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Posted 18 April 2005 - 01:41 PM

QUOTE (JSOTF @ Apr 18 2005, 10:53 AM)
Jetsfan115,
DID YOU EVEN WATCH IT?
OR MAYBE THE FIGHT LAST WEEK?


No I haven’t. I still like it but not like I used to. Not worth paying 45 dollars on PPV for it. I can watch them later on the fox sports channels or rent them from netflix. I don’t know if u seen the originals but u should. They are way better
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Posted 18 April 2005 - 03:22 PM

Jetsfan115,

I am not calling you out or anything like that.
I agree that some of the older fights were a little more violent, gruesome and sickening, but the UFC is attempting to be a respected sport. You may not see a 500 lb sumo wrestler fighting a 100 lb kickboxer, but you will see equally matched fighters beating each other almost senseless.
I spent the 34 dollars to see the fights, they showed a total of 7 fights and a highlight from another fight, it was well worth the money. Im not telling you to run out and buy it, but it was better than any boxing or wrestling ppv....
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Posted 18 April 2005 - 04:43 PM

QUOTE (JSOTF @ Apr 18 2005, 01:57 PM)
Jetsfan115, 

  I am not calling you out or anything like that. 
  I agree that some of the older fights were a little more violent, gruesome and sickening, but the UFC is attempting to be a respected sport.  You may not see a 500 lb sumo wrestler fighting a 100 lb kickboxer, but you will see equally matched fighters beating each other almost senseless.
  I spent the 34 dollars to see the fights, they showed a total of 7 fights and a highlight from another fight, it was well worth the money.  Im not telling you to run out and buy it, but it was better than any boxing or wrestling ppv....



I do agree its still a better sport then boxing has turned into but its not the same. There is a lot less action. Its like watching a baseball game compared to a football game. Baseball you’ll sit and wait for stuff to happen. That’s what it turned into instead of what it was. I think that the fighters are skilled and very well trained but it just doesn’t appeal to me like it used to.
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Posted 28 April 2005 - 02:41 PM

i saw the fight and i liked it alot. i was rooting for liddell because he is from my hometown of santa barbara. i wish that it had lasted longer than 1st round knockout but i'm glad that liddell got the belt finally.

jetfan115 is right that they used to be better. they still are better then watching boxing though. imo. they dropped the price down to $30 dollars so between my brother in law and i we can swing pretty much every fight they have.

i think the best one was the very first fight with that crazy dude from las vegas. the guy with retard strength. he had this crazy grin the whole time. even when his mouth was bludgeoned and bloody he was still grinning. its retard strength if i've ever seen it. the kind of fight where you respect the guy on how much of a beating he can take and not of his actual fighting ability. i was laughing my ass off.

we ordered the pride match that was last weekend and i didn't like it. the guys would only strike for maybe 3 seconds and then go to the ground. it had a few shining moments but it was mostly just boring. i like ufc better because of the octagon over the square ring with ropes. in the octagon you can smash the guy up against the cage but in pride they call time and make you move back to the middle of the ring. in ufc it just seems like more of a pit fight.

liddell said that he was going to win belts in pride tournaments now that he got the title from coutour. i'd probably pay to see liddell in pride but other than that pride doesn't interest me much.
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