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Jetsfan0099 Icon : (16 August 2014 - 07:14 PM) finally made a play on defense once Pryor came in
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (16 August 2014 - 07:15 PM) besides that INT, Geno looks better than last season IMO. seems more comfortable and is going through progressions.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (16 August 2014 - 07:18 PM) DeMario Davis seems like hes poised to have a breakout season at LB
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (16 August 2014 - 07:50 PM) It was nice seeing Pryor in, he made some plays. I think hes going to be the real deal and that we will hit on a stud with him
azjetfan Icon : (16 August 2014 - 08:43 PM) The pick by Geno seemed to be more on Nelson. Nelson sat on his route. Geno threw it were he was supposed to be.
azjetfan Icon : (16 August 2014 - 08:44 PM) Who knows though
santana Icon : (16 August 2014 - 11:55 PM) http://gfycat.com/Mi...idHookersealion
santana Icon : (16 August 2014 - 11:55 PM) Gotta fix that
azjetfan Icon : (17 August 2014 - 01:35 PM) Is anyone else as concerned as I am about the secondary?
azjetfan Icon : (17 August 2014 - 01:36 PM) I know it's preseason and all but even with Milliner in on the first game we gave up a TD on the first drive to the Colts
azjetfan Icon : (17 August 2014 - 01:37 PM) Patterson looked like me out there and Wilson got torched last night
Smedsthejet Icon : (17 August 2014 - 02:26 PM) Concerned about the right side of the OLine too - too many penalties and Giacomini wasn't that much better than against the Colts when he was poor
SackExchange71 Icon : (17 August 2014 - 02:31 PM) Imo i still think howard is better then giacomini..Wish they never let him walk.Giacomini had alot of flags in seattle also
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 09:33 AM) Howard recieved a huge contract in Oakland. Way over his actual value.
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 10:08 AM) So did we make a trade for a CB yet?
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 03:51 PM) Milliner did suffer a high ankle sprain, that sucks. could linger all year
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 03:52 PM) I think Patterson sucked vs the Colts because he was injured, which he always is.
Mr_Jet Icon : (Yesterday, 06:49 PM) As much as people criticized Tannanbaum for spending too much. It's starting to look like Idzik is going to be too cheap.
Mr_Jet Icon : (Yesterday, 06:52 PM) You get what you pay for and when you let quality players go because you don't want to pay them, this is what happens. You're left with scrub players.
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 07:55 PM) I'm still on board with the Idzik plan. Even with Revis and Revis we still are not going to the SB this year. But the down time sucks. If Milliner comes back healthy by week 3 or so we should be fine.
Mr_Jet Icon : (Yesterday, 08:18 PM) Regardless of our SB chances this year or next year. If Idzik keeps acting like a cheapskate and continues to let quality players go, we won't have to worry about winning much of anything this decade.
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 09:36 PM) He wants to build through the draft. Not blow the bank on FA. I get what your saying but there is a balance and right now we are not one or two pieces away.
Mr_Jet Icon : (Yesterday, 11:00 PM) It's not about being one or two pieces away. It's about keeping the good pieces you have and building upon that.
Mr_Jet Icon : (Yesterday, 11:04 PM) But there is no sense in trying to build through the draft if he's only going to end up letting the good players he picks up go in FA after a few years. All because he wants to do things on the cheap.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 07:02 AM) FIRE IDZIK
azjetfan Icon : (Today, 08:33 AM) out side of Revis who left we should have kept?
azjetfan Icon : (Today, 08:34 AM) The Revis deal sucks but $16 million was too much for a CB and once he was gone he was not coming back.
Mr_Jet Icon : (Today, 11:00 AM) Matt Slauson
azjetfan Icon : (Today, 01:00 PM) Eh. I think with our current cap situation we will be able to retain guys like Wilkerson and whomever we want to keep. We are in a good position right now.
Mr_Jet Icon : (Today, 01:49 PM) Time will tell.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Today, 02:00 PM) landed revis abck. got DRC, nope we take patterson who got owned and always hurt. milner always hurt. 3rd round CB done for season. were gonna get passed on all day
azjetfan Icon : (Today, 02:44 PM) Yea the DRC bit makes me iffy
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Today, 03:35 PM) better then patterson
azjetfan Icon : (Today, 05:45 PM) No I mean the fact that he whiffed on him.
azjetfan Icon : (Today, 05:46 PM) I'm not saying Idzik is perfect. I just like the direction we are heading. It's going to take some patience.
RetireChrebet Icon : (Today, 06:27 PM) I like how our lack of secondary is the hot topic right now. The bigger issue is we still will not be able to throw the ball. We are not going to do much of anything regardless until we get a QB. Sorry for being so negative just my honest opinion.
RetireChrebet Icon : (Today, 06:29 PM) With that said I think our running game with CJ and Powell will be top 10 or somewhere around there
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Today, 06:35 PM) i have faith that if geno messes up that vick can come in and do well. but i have 0 faith in our secondary right now which has been our strong point for the past 4 years or so
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 07:35 PM) I agree 115. but the one thing is Rex has done some good things in the past with shitty DBs and still had a solid D going back to his years in BAL
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azjetfan Icon : (Today, 08:26 PM) I assume we will pick up a guy after the cuts happen.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 10:14 PM) we'll see but I think we see better QB play than we have in a while.
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No Epiphany Yet, Gholston Shows Progress

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Post icon  Posted 27 November 2008 - 09:58 AM

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<h2 class="entry-title">No Epiphany Yet, but Gholston Shows Progress</h2> By Gregory Bishop FLORHAM PARK, N.J. – While the Jets players spent Tuesday nursing their bumps and bruises, Coach Eric Mangini spent the day at the team offices, where he bumped into JoJo Wooden.

Wooden, the Jets assistant director of player personnel, talked with Mangini about his own playing career at Syracuse. Wooden told Mangini that he remembered the exact moment during his red shirt freshman season when everything just clicked.

The coach used the story as a way to illustrate the progress of first-round draft pick Vernon Gholston, the rookie linebacker the Jets selected sixth overall last spring.

“Everybody has that moment where the clouds kind of drift away, the sun comes out, and you can just start playing,” Mangini said.

The coach didn’t say that Gholston has experienced that sort of epiphany on the pros. Gholston has compiled 11 tackles this season, far fewer than the number fans expected back in April. But Mangini sees positive signs where others may not. “He’s made a lot of progress,” Mangini said. “He’s played most consistently on special teams, and he’s improved the most in that area. Defensively, it’s still a work in progress.”

Mangini said Gholston’s performance on defense last week against Tennessee was his best this season.

“He didn’t get an overwhelming amount of opportunities, but the opportunities he did get, I thought he did a good job with,” Mangini said.

Gholston missed most of the Jets mini-camps this off-season while finishing the semester, per N.C.A.A. rules, at Ohio State. He also switched positions, moving from a college defensive end to outside linebacker in the Jets’ 3-4 defensive scheme.

Mangini saod that he set no expectations for Gholston’s progress. He listed other linebackers who took time to develop, among them Willie McGinest, Roosevelt Colvin and Tedy Bruschi, three players who spent time with Mangini’s former team, the New England Patriots.

The biggest difference for Gholston, Mangini said, is that the Jets game plan for each opponent individually. Other teams run the same plays, make the same calls, but the Jets change those from week-to-week.

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Posted 27 November 2008 - 11:36 AM

I think Gholston was the only negative thing coming out of the Titans game. He looked slow & lethargic and even got knocked on his ass once in an embarrassing display of being outclassed & outplayed. I'm in no way giving up on him yet, but so far he's showed me absolutely nothing. I wouldn't even mind if he had no tackles as long as he displayed some sort of non-stop motor out there. but so far... Not looking good.
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Posted 27 November 2008 - 11:54 AM

give him time. gholston will be good. were 2nd in sacks anyway not like we need production from him now
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Posted 27 November 2008 - 12:40 PM

Gholston did have some stats on Sunday...he had a horrible missed tackle and he got pancaked by a RB...

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Posted 27 November 2008 - 01:05 PM

what does L Taylor have to say about him he is his mentor?
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Posted 27 November 2008 - 01:37 PM

Thankfully with Pace and Thomas performing, there is no major need for Gholston to be producing. Saying that though, hopefully he does start producing in the future.

Perhaps it's a game time issue and that he needs snaps to get into his groove. But for that to happen he'd need to be starting, which just isn't going to happen this year barring injury.
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Posted 28 November 2008 - 05:07 PM

This reminds me of a story my mate (nickname Einstein) told me about the time he was mountaineering in the Himalayas and him and another guy got caught up in an avalanche. Apparently my mate managed to out run the avalanche (which can travel up to 80mph) but unfortunately the other guy didn't make it.

I obviously challenged him about the validity of this story but he countered by saying he didn't know how it happened but everything just CLICKED and he just managed to put one leg in front of the other Usain Bolt style and legged it fast as f*** down that slope.

I wonder if this is the same kind of CLICKED that Wooden is refering to in his story to Mangini?
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Posted 29 November 2008 - 12:44 AM

I didnt see him much, but he did get a QB pressure, he took the wrong angle on it so he was a step off, but hopefully that kinda stuff will get him going.
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Posted 29 November 2008 - 06:27 AM

Well, I know people are worried being he is the sixth overall pick, but I would try not to worry just yet. Mainly because Bryan Thomas and Pace are playing well, and the team is winning. But don't forget, Thomas and Pace are late bloomers as well. They, as everyone should know, were drafted as ends, and didn't really play good until they transitioned into the 3-4 OLB role. Gholston played end, and this is his first year ever as an OLB. He never had to do anything else but bull rush in college. Hopefully that one QB pressure against Tennessee gives him some confidence or something and he emerges as a pass rush threat.
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