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Jets win 3-1. Beat dolphins so bad that philbin isnt allowed back from england.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 01:37 PM) how do you block Wilkerson, Richardson, and Williams on passing downs?
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 01:37 PM) if he's not convicted since he has to go back to court now that his suspension is over
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 01:37 PM) I would like to see us use a 4 man front on passing downs. With Wilk on the the end Rich on the other end and Williams and Harrison in the middle
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 01:37 PM) the interior pressure we'll bring is going to be crazy
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 01:37 PM) and if he's in game shape
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 01:37 PM) Or Use Rich and Williams in the middle and put Wilk and Coples on the Ends
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 01:38 PM) Richardson won't be suspended this season from that
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 01:40 PM) This D-line reminds me of the 2011 Giants who used JPP and Tuck on the inside and Osi and Kiwanuka on the ends
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 01:41 PM) 4 10 sack players at 1 points in their careers and no o-line could stop them all
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 01:41 PM) I think this D-line will be so much better
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 01:43 PM) The thing that is scary is that we also have a great secondary
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 01:44 PM) Exactly
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 01:44 PM) All of our additions in the secondary look great. Darrelle Revis changes secondaries
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 01:44 PM) Buster Skrine has been a beast at nickel
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 01:45 PM) Take a sack or throw it up
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 01:45 PM) Marcus Gilchrist has been making plays in coverage at FS.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 01:45 PM) The Island!!!
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 01:45 PM) Never should have let him go
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 01:45 PM) We could have just taken Rich at 9
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 01:46 PM) but o well he is back now
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 01:46 PM) You got to think Revis has also never had this much talent around him
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 01:48 PM) all 3 of our wins we pretty much dominated in
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 01:48 PM) Our defense has allowed the leagues best 13 PPG
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 01:49 PM) We beat us against Philly
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 01:50 PM) 4 turnovers and a Punt return TD
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 01:58 PM) If fitz can be smart with the ball and Marshall Decker and Ivory and stay healthy I think we can beat anyone
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 02:36 PM) http://www.sun-senti...1005-story.html
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 03:16 PM) I get it to a point why everyone is making a big deal about that missed call because difference between a win and a loss but I have never seen that call made in over 30 years of watching NFL so I guarantee that none of the fans , coaches or players new the rule. Yes the refs should know all the rules but they aren't computers and it's impossible for them to remember all the 1000's of rules. Especially an old rule no one but the officials ever heard of before. 22 new officials didn't help either. It took an old long time official now retired from officiating to tell the world the rule. Everyone and the officials will remember that rule from now on after all the media
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 03:27 PM) Lions fans are b*tching like hell about it. We would be if it happened to us but I think it's a bad rule any way and should be scrapped. If the defense causes the offensive player to fumble in the end zone because the defense makes a good play I personally think it would be bullshit to give the fumbling team the ball back. If the ball went out of bounds on its own or if a player tried to recover it and the ball went out of the end zone it's not a penalty. Both cases are a touchback so I feel that giving the ball back to the offense that fumbled it because of the defense batting the ball out of the end zone if the offense recovered the ball it would be a td so it would be bullshit to give them the ball back because of a simple ball bat. Rule should really be changed
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 03:30 PM) It's ok for the offense to deliberately take a safety to prevent a TD and only give up 2 points an benefit themselves so yeah I think it is an old out of date rule that should be thrown out. If the d makes a great play they shouldn't have to give the offense the ball back because of a stupid rule
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 03:30 PM) So I'm glad it wasn't called
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 03:31 PM) Hope it's changed next year
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Today, 03:31 PM) it's been called a ton of times, they showed a montage o ESPN last night of a bunch of times it's been called
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Today, 03:33 PM) just because one player made a great play, doesn't mean you can excuse someone making a bonehead play
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Today, 03:34 PM) chancellor made a great play (remember when i wanted the jets to draft him?) but the LBer should have not illegally batted it, he could have tried to recover it or body blocked det from recovering.
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 03:34 PM) Not sure what ESPN you had on ESPN China? I left ESPN on for 2 hours after the game and I never seen this montage you say. I'm calling you out as bullshit. Show me a video of proof
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 03:38 PM) Even the old ESPN official couldn't remember an instance of it being called. It isn't the same as the offense backing out of the end zone with the ball or being sacked in the end zone for a safety. Completely different rule and situation. I've never seen it called and I watch at least 6 games at a time a week. None of the ESPN announcer players, Ray Lewis, Dilfer, or Young even knew the rule and that's over 20 years of NFL experience. Yet none of them knew or understood the rule until it was explained in detail
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 03:40 PM) I've never once seen the ball given back to to offense so I challenge you to show me this montage you claim was on. If I didn't see it for two hours I after the game I'm calling bullshit on your end
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 03:43 PM) Say whatever you want but show me proof or just leave it be because I won't believe you without a bunch of video proof. I have a hell of a memory and if it ever was called maybe once or twice in the past 30 years but no way there is some montage
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 03:48 PM) Nether coach knew the rule either and they would know more of the rules than the players and fans. If not for a retired official bringing it up it probably would've never even been brought up at all
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 03:58 PM) I highly questionable is on now and they are even saying no one knew the rule or complained until they were told the rule.
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 04:05 PM) I have seen plenty of games where defenders did knock the ball out of the end zone like the situation last night to prevent any possible touchdown not disputing that because that has happened a good many times. My point is I've never seen a flag thrown for it and the ball given to the offense. It's definitely an obsolete rule that should be thrown out. The NFL has made the rules so offensive friendly these days it's hard to play defense with out calls anymore. That is just one more bullshit rule to help the offense. Take the Jets Dolphins game for instance. Those bullshit pi calls against our defense for clearly uncatchable balls. Pi never should've never been called giving up like 60 yards on two calls and a td that never would've happened. At most they should've been 5 yard holding calls. Never would've been mad if they just called them holding calls.
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 04:06 PM) Anyway I'm tired of all these offense friendly rules these days screwing over the defenses. It's starting to get like non touch flag football for the defenses.
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 04:11 PM) You know it too. Our team has been a defensive team for well over a decade and so many bullshit calls have been called against our defense because of the new offensive friendly rules. So I say screw Detroit. I'm glad it wasn't called and a defense gets a break
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Today, 06:37 PM) call em a liar if you want, but I seen it man
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The Love Affair With The White Tight End

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Posted 14 November 2005 - 11:09 AM

In the midst of a horrible season, it is common for the seasoned Jet follower to lash out at frustrating idiosyncrasies of the organization that, normally would be tolerated during a competitive season, but now becomes a microcosm of the ineptitude and stubbornly arrogant personnel moves of the organization.

Somebody please explain to me this inherited, twisted love affair with the big, uncoordinated, SLOW, lumbering WHITE TIGHT END? From Kyle Brady to the recent aqcuisition of Doug Jolley, the Jets continue to waste time, money and draft picks on a position and player that quite frankly, does not warrant it.

I know that a couple of years ago, Jolley had a couple of good games against the Jets. Foolishly, like other idiotic organizations (see the Bruce Coslet led Bengals spending their money on the flat footed Neil O'Donnell years ago), the Jets got excited over a player who played well against THEM, not the rest of the league.

See, you want to believe that the people in charge of the team you support know more than you, via football savvy, experience, insider's track, etc. Then you watch these moves they make and you become enraged! These are not isolated incidents, but a culmination of blunders made year after year regardless of who is charge - we got a three year reprieve when Parcells was running the show. (he did draft Becht though - you cannot bat a thousand!)

Now of course, not everyone will agree with the decisions made by the organization. And sometimes, the decisions turn out to be the right ones. I am then man enough to admit that I was wrong and am happy I was! But when certain situations are so obvious, and when my friends call me after the Jolley trade to taunt me, BECAUSE they already know how stupid a move it was, and they don't even follow the Jets, it becomes difficult to digest!

Now the Jets would fire back with these wonderful physical attributes of size, height, speed, etc. etc. Everyone knows what they cannot say: THE WHITE TIGHT END will ALWAYS be average. Yes, there are a FEW, I mean FEW exceptions i.e. Jeremy Shockey. But, if you want a star, a go to guy, then you want someone who can effectively split the SEAM ala Marcus Pollard.

If you want a good blocker, then stick another lineman out there in running situations and call him a tight end! Don't waste picks on a player who is destined to fail because of his skin color!

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Posted 14 November 2005 - 11:25 AM

This has to be the most rasist shi-t I have ever heard. Why don't we just say a black man can't be a good QB because he is to stupid. By the way the best tight ends in the game right now Shocky - white, Gonzalaz(granted having a bad year)- Hispanic, and Gates- black.

You are a f-in ignorant bastard to think that just cause a person is black they are better at a position.
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Posted 14 November 2005 - 11:39 AM

plus heap and witten are white and are both two of the best TE's in the NFL. And if you didnt notice are starting TE this year was Chris Baker, a black man.

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Posted 14 November 2005 - 11:45 AM

Any good points you could have made were lost as soon as you made it a black/white issue. That is ridiculous. What the hell does the color have to do with it? Wake up! I'm locking this idiotic thread before it gets out of control. If you want to say Jolley was a wasted pick, I'll be the first to agree with you, but the fact that he's white has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH IT.

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