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MikeGangGree... Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:09 AM) good
MikeGangGree... Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:09 AM) Best day of the week is the day after a Jets Win!
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:12 AM) Rob you think the offense started off ugly? we scored on our first 4 drives, and controlled the ball 80% of the time the first half. We didn't even punt until the 2nd half
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:21 AM) I meant the hits on Fitz at on the first Drive or two with the fumbles and almost fumbles....The Tom Brady rule where balls that used to be fumbles are incomplete. We recovered the ball on all but one but it was ruled incomplete
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:26 AM) The offensive line stepped off after Hughes got hurt for however long he was out. I don't blame J. Marsh for that fumble because that was just a hell of a play. Imo Fitz had a career best game even with only 1 td passing. Never seen him so accurate. So yeah when I meant ugly I meant dline penetration and the 1st two drives ending up in fieldgoals
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:30 AM) But 31 points given up passing by the defense passing was bad. It wasn't just 2 long bombs and that defensive touchdown leading to 21 points. 3q1 against a bad team was terrible for the defense. Without the offense putting up 37 the Jets,would have lost so yeah I consider it an ugly start on both ends
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:32 AM) I'm glad like everyone else that the Jets won. Especially with getting with by the Bills multiple times it was nice revenge.
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:34 AM) Just saying that the Bills look like a bad team this year and the Jets have to face a lot of teams that are probably playoff bound again so yes there is a lot of concern
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 11:39 AM) fitz look good and lets not forget the 50+ yarder to decker that was called back on a BS holding penalty. plus if you rewatch it, the jets d-line was getting held like crazy and never got calls. I seen McLendon, williams, and wilk all complaining about it
azjetfan Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:32 PM) I think the game plan for the D was to keep Taylor in the pocker
azjetfan Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:33 PM) They didn't want him running around when they only rushed 3-4 guts
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:37 PM) bills fired their OC today after the loss yesterday lol
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:38 PM) yeah we didn't really rush, we just tried to keep contain on the outside and collapse the middle
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:38 PM) on the salas TD, one of our LBers went for the sack and broke contain and pryor got away and made the play
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:39 PM) when we did rush which was rare, we had a spy
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 11:11 PM) As far as the Bills firing the oc I'm not sure I agree with it with Watkins having major foot problem with a steel rod in his surgically repaired foot but I dont follow the Bills so cant really say. I do think they need to get rid of Rob Ryan though. He had a decent year with the Browns then was terrible with the Cowboys and Saints. He isn't half the DC that Rex is. I still think Rex can be a good head coach withe the right coaches and roster but Rob Ryan isn't the answer. But if Rex wants to ruin his chance of staying a head coach by keeping his brother on the coaching staff like he ruined his head coaching job keeping Sanchez as a starter then that's his stupidity
ganggreen2003 Icon : (17 September 2016 - 12:20 AM) The A Football Life of Curtis Martin is a MUST WATCH!!!!
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (17 September 2016 - 02:03 PM) They got rid of their OC after their defense was ripped apart
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:03 PM) Well hell that makes even less sense. The defense gets ripped apart so let's get rid of the oc instead of the dc.they didn't have much of a run game but a lot of passes yards. If they wanted to blame anyone for nearly 40 points against them it was their defense. But guess Rex used the ocean as the scale goat instead of his brother
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:04 PM) Oc not ocean. Damn Auto correct on phone
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:04 PM) And scape goatee
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:05 PM) Lol still can't get it right
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:13 PM) Not sure about anyone else but I'm extremely interested in the 49r/ Panther game at 1pm. Just want to see if the 49rs are actually good this year or if the Rams have become one of the worst teams in the league this year
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:16 PM) If the Rams have regressed that much then all the Todd Gurley owners in fantasy will likely have low points from him all year. Might even be worth trying to trade him early if they look just as bad this week before his stock drops
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:26 PM) I drafted him last year and also had David Johnson, Chris Johnson, Roetlesburger, Romo, Palmer, Barnage,, .....my whole team was stacked with starters. Entire team wasc stacked with starters. Even bench. Made tge Superbowl but did have a rough start at behinning of season when Romo and Roethlisberger wentvdown at the start of season also lost amazing starting rb and wr all within the 1st 4 games but worked the waivers really well..shut out until garbage time by a team that was terrible last year
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:28 PM) Last part meant Rams were shut out entire game even in garbage time against 49r backups
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:29 PM) Sorry about typos. Hard to type on small phone screen
MikeGangGree... Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:00 PM) This is why I'm glad Rex is gone. Fire the OC after the D gives up 500 yards??
MikeGangGree... Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:01 PM) UPDATE THE UPDATE!!!!
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:25 PM) Yep Rex isn't a bad coach but he needs to have all player and coach decisions as far as firing and hiring taken out of his hands. His problem is he doesn't know to separate the job from loyalty to players and is unable to let underperforming players go
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:27 PM) He was great as a DC because he wasn't in charge of roster and firing decisions. He will never make it as a good head coach until he can get rid of loyalty and run a team like any boss runs a business.
azjetfan Icon : (17 September 2016 - 07:16 PM) I loved Rex as a person. But he is severely handicapped in his skill set as a HC. He has not adapted and will not adapt. That's why he isn't here and will be fired from Buffalo.
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:05 AM) It's all guessing and I will like likely stick with my two starters that are injured and playing but D.Thomas looks like he is still in a lot of pain and Stewart is still in the locker room getting ankle treatment so both could be on a snap count
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:06 AM) I have good wr's on bench and good rb's on bench but they have bad matchups. Do t trust Diggs against Greenbay or Doug Martin against Arizona both on bench
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:08 AM) If I made changes I have Crabtree for Oakland Aagainst Atlanta and Abdullah for Detroit against 49rs as my two options I would choose if I made any changes
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:10 AM) Actually have it backwards with my running back teams
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:12 AM) Detroit vs Titans who I believe has a legit defense. Panthers have a better team but the ankle for Stewart and both the Titans and 49rs are ranked #1 against the run. Not a believer in the 49rs defensesthough
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:13 AM) Believe the Rams oline just sucks
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:15 AM) Abdullah splits carries but he did get 17 last week and also catches a lot of passes and has a better qb so could exploit the Titans still
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:16 AM) Will most likely do my own thing anyway just looking for input from those that actually study in fantasy if anyone feels like offering their opinions. If not it's cool too. Thanks
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:18 AM) If not for the injuries to the two players I'd keep them in for sure but all it takes for Thomas is a hit to the hip and a tackle by the ankle for Stewart if they aren't on a snap count already or if pain doesn't get to them.
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 12:45 PM) Well looks like leaving in Stewart was,a,bad move in locker room
MikeGangGree... Icon : (18 September 2016 - 04:54 PM) Good news! Dolphins suck
santana Icon : (19 September 2016 - 08:08 AM) Thanks professor
Jetsfan115 Icon : (23 September 2016 - 03:55 PM) updated roster. FB howsare released, TE bowman added to roster
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Posted 22 August 2007 - 03:29 AM

Ok....so i think i am really starting to hate 08'. The game play is supposed to be realistic i guess...but maybe its me but every game i play no one rushes for over 40-50 yards unless the running back makes a crazy ass play and dodges 6 tacklers. and most people i play just abandon the run game all together after the 1st quarter... in 07 i took great pride in the game with my ability to run the ball but in this game is is nearly impossible to rush effectivly. i mean i had nearly 300 games and was averaging about a buck 35...but in 08' you cant run to the outside unless you do a sweep and if it dosent happen to work on that given play u lose 5 yards. cant run through the middle...well because it just dosent work. counters do not work and it drives me crazy...stopping the run is to damn easy.

Now as far as madden has always gone for me i have never been an amazing passer but i was effective enough...But in 08' unless your guy is wide open it seems that a corner (and even a shitty one at that) will jump a route every freaking time. And also i played with teams with good lines to teams with decent lines and no matter the cause....the d-linemen get through every god damn time....

granted ive played about 25 games so far and i probably have won about 18 of them but i cant blow anyone out. When i win the score is 14-3, 16-10 and etc....I mean its obvious some people have really grasped the passing game...but i just dont understand why im so bad at it...last years game i never had to throw more than 15 times...and my completion % was high...and running wasnt easy but if you knew how to run like i could...you could control the game.

and red zone scoring seems to be nearly impossible...ive never kicked as many feild goals in any other previous maddens than i have in 08....ive won games by kicking only feild goals...

i know that as time goes on ill probably figure things out....i mean last years madden when i first started playing the only problem i had was i thought it was impossible to stop the run. and as i played i figured it out...but in this years the biggest problem i have is the running...i just dont see myself improving...and i cant see myself ever playing anyone who will be able to run the ball effectivly...

anyone else not liking this game all that much? (although i will still play this game until 09' comes out as i did with 07')

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Posted 22 August 2007 - 03:38 AM

what difficulty you play on
cause if its anything less then all madden then im sorry you just arent good and if it is then turn it down





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Posted 22 August 2007 - 05:47 AM

I have no problem running the ball at all. I mean I'm only averaging 4-5 a run with the occasional squirt for 10 up the gut. You can't expect to get a 15-20 yrd run every play which I like. maybe your just playing some blitz heavy opponents or your getting to old and the reaction time is out the window. I actually find the passing game a lot harder this year as it appears they finally stepped up the AI coverage. A lot motre Ints against and for my D as they don't just swat every ball down.
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Posted 22 August 2007 - 10:04 AM

I had a 6 interception game with Pennington last night. I'm not liking the "realism" EA is trying to incorporate. I'm talking fumble after fumble, INT after INT. My CPU controlled defense plays lazily. Ronnie Brown ran a sweep on me for like 8 or 9 yards. Erik Coleman is just lingering 15 yards up and takes forever to run up and try and make the play.

Blitzes have worked fairly well for me. The CPU QB, however, manages to throw passes off his backfoot more often than me though. Accurate ones at that.

Running isn't as difficult for me. I've managed to let go of my dependency on the highlight stick. Thomas Jones does manage to break a few. I've had a couple 100 yard games.. a 200 yard game once.

I do appreciate the closer score games in the end. But I'd prefer more swatted balls than INTs.
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Posted 22 August 2007 - 10:25 AM

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what difficulty you play on
cause if its anything less then all madden then im sorry you just arent good and if it is then turn it down


I do not normally waste my time playing the computer at all...no franchises no "play now" games...i play madden for the online play and i have been playing madden for YEARS. id say im pretty decent and as far as playing freinds and what not...i do not lose to them. online is a different story...and after i got my xbox fixed last year i was winning 2/3's of my games...now I agree about the fumbles as well...I played last night which actually caused me to write that little rant and i had at least 3 or 4 fumbles (all after gaining a first down)....losing 2 or 3 of them...and after i make catches i do not spin or use the highlight stick...i take what i can get and that is that...but my recievers continue to fumble anyways....ive been using the bengals because of this little madden leauge we have here and rudi is always good for one or 2 fumbles as well....last years madden i almost never ever turned the ball over....and when i did it was a fumble or someone who made a great user pick...this year the majority of my games i have at least 3...the ints are a little crazy....i have to admit....because i so rarley threw a bad ball i was all about the ints for this season...but the game is only played with 5 min quarters and ive realized that although alot of the swatted balls were frusturating....it made the game better. now bum corners jump routes like they are champ baily. my games are close...but i have yet to have a game where the score is 35-31 or even higher....it just seems that offense is just a little difficult....like i said earlier...aside from 2 or 3 games...the scores to my games are 13-10, 10-3 and etc...

im just happy i picked up how to play defense right away or i might truely hate this game lol...

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Posted 22 August 2007 - 01:03 PM

Wow, you cant compare this game to last years game. Last years game was the worst ever. All you had to do was throw the ball downfield and its a catch every time. This year the CBs can actually cover. Now you expecting to break big runs every time is stupid, thats football running the ball for 3 to 4 yards a carry and also losing yards on a run. Most of the people that play madden are geeks and fags so they expect to break a big run out every time so when they dont they abandon it and start passing, because they dont care about the realistic aspect of the game they just want arcady big plays and gamer points. I think its difficult to run for 100 yards online unless you break a big one because its only like 4 to 5 min quarters. A real football game is 15 min quarters, so thats why its harder to run because the game isnt as long.
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Posted 22 August 2007 - 02:14 PM

Ok. First off last year the run game was WAY to easy. People were running out of the goaline set last year for all 4 quarters. It was horrible and 08 aien't perfect but why can't you have a vertical passing game using the Bengals? You passing game must really weak.

These are my tips-

For versing an online opponent


- If your getting blitzed hard up the middle (nano blitzing). Run your scheme out of the shotgun
- If your getting nano'd and facing bump and run coverage, come out in shotgun plays with drag routes (I suggest the RUN N GUN playbook)
- If you want to run the ball and your facing a nano blitzer whos blitzing hard up the middle call pitches and sweeps
- If you feel you must pass from under center when being nano'd, P.A bootleg,Waggles and rollouts seem to nullify the blitz.
- If you want to counter heavy blitzers call screen passes, IE: WR screens( Note: do not throw the screen pass against a lockdown corner especially in man coverage) The WR screen works best when facing zone. Screen plays will eat the blitz pressure for breakfast. Hit up practice mode. Thatswhere I do all my cooking. : )

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Posted 22 August 2007 - 02:20 PM

You want help with madden go here ----> http://www.vgsportsi...orums/index.php
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Posted 22 August 2007 - 03:10 PM

QUOTE (S-Dubb @ Aug 22 2007, 02:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ok. First off last year the run game was WAY to easy. People were running out of the goaline set last year for all 4 quarters. It was horrible and 08 aien't perfect but why can't you have a vertical passing game using the Bengals? You passing game must really weak.

These are my tips-

For versing an online opponent
- If your getting blitzed hard up the middle (nano blitzing). Run your scheme out of the shotgun
- If your getting nano'd and facing bump and run coverage, come out in shotgun plays with drag routes (I suggest the RUN N GUN playbook)
- If you want to run the ball and your facing a nano blitzer whos blitzing hard up the middle call pitches and sweeps
- If you feel you must pass from under center when being nano'd, P.A bootleg,Waggles and rollouts seem to nullify the blitz.
- If you want to counter heavy blitzers call screen passes, IE: WR screens( Note: do not throw the screen pass against a lockdown corner especially in man coverage) The WR screen works best when facing zone. Screen plays will eat the blitz pressure for breakfast. Hit up practice mode. Thatswhere I do all my cooking. : )

Peace!

Thats exactly want i been doing since the game been out. I only use the Jets when I play and i run a shotgun formation the whole time using the Jets playbook to (if they blitz) and im not throwin alot of interceptions or fumbles. You just gotta do short and quick routes when you play and gain 4-10 yards at a time.
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Posted 22 August 2007 - 07:17 PM

Yea unfortunatly...ive been using the west coast playbook for the last 4 editions of madden...which dosent have a shotgun...i never really thought about it but maybe its just time to try a new playbook. and as far as running game last season...it was impossible to run on me and i never ran out of goal line.. and ive never been a homerun hitter in madden...all my drives took clock and consisted of a number of plays....but yea running 3 and 4 yards would be fine....but it just dosent seem to work. And my favorite running play...which was a double te set with 1 reciver counter is a dead play. and running up the middle in general is not very effective. it WILL not work... running wouldnt be a problem with me if i was able to pick 3 and 4 yards up at a time....i either gain 1 yard or i lose 3....i guess if others are able to run...it must be me and ill have to work on it...ill try some of the info offered here...ill figure it out lol...

the last game i played i notcied that play-actions actually work (last year they didnt work all that great so i rarely used them)....ill get used to it...but i guess ill have to screw around and find a new playbook...new style game will have to make me play a new style...thanks for the info guys

oh yea and for the record...yes my passing game is weak which is why im bitching lol...ill have it figured out in a couple days...

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Posted 22 August 2007 - 10:33 PM

QUOTE (Amen @ Aug 23 2007, 12:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I had a 6 interception game with Pennington last night. I'm not liking the "realism" EA is trying to incorporate. I'm talking fumble after fumble, INT after INT. My CPU controlled defense plays lazily. Ronnie Brown ran a sweep on me for like 8 or 9 yards. Erik Coleman is just lingering 15 yards up and takes forever to run up and try and make the play.


Gotta use your throw away and tuck ball functions. I rarely throw picks and have only fuumbled twice in six games. Honestly now that I think about it the only time I ahve thrown picks is when I try and force a pass to avoid a sack.
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Posted 23 August 2007 - 08:10 AM

i've played about 5 games (2 with the jets in franchise mode) and 3 games against my friend (using rams, bengals, and eagles)

the 1st game i played i really didn't like it , it was with the jets in franchise mode i got spanked like 61 to 14. i didn't even know the buttons (i thought A was speed burst still lol) dind't know u can use the vision cone. etc. the run game was horrible and unrealistic and the pass game seemed slower then it should be. anyway since its the only NFL game and i payed 60 bucks for it i was determined to keep trying the game. anyway i read teh book so i would know the buttons and haven't lost a game yet. i shut my friend out 2 games in a row (and won all 3) and rackd up scores of 21 34 and 49 points 9a little more realistic then the 80 points i used to rack up in madden) i thought there were alot of imrpovmenets and disappointments in the game.
improvements
1 the DBs seem smarter and more realistic. they play the ball and knock it down, they don't jump 80 feet in the air and break up a pass that no way they should be able too and they also don't sit around and watch the ball go over there head
2 the RBs don't get stuck on lineman anymore. instead there are smooth animations as teh squeeze through
3 the pass agme is tougher but still fun and more realistic then previous years

disappoinments
1 ball physics. still badly messed up. i threw a pick one game cause i thrw the ball and the defnese tipped it, then it bounced up and got "stuck" on a defenders back and a defender behind him (after about 2 or 3 seconds) scooped the ball up off his teamtaes back. the ball should have dropped to the ground for an incompletion
2 kicking game. it seems every kicker kicks TBs every kick off, also i had an accurate kicker for a 46 yard FG and hit it with full power and perfect accuracy and thouugh i nailed it, but then the ball hooked to the left last minute. i was pissed. huge inconsistincies if my kicker kicks it 8 yards deep in the end zone on a KO but can't hit a 46 yarder?
3 run game - is horrible. i wen't over 100 yards in 1 game out of my 5 games. and the time i did was cause i busted a 60 yard run on 1 play. my other 40 yards were on like 20 rushes. the numbers looked good (21 carries 100+ yards) but really it wasn't. usually i'm averaging 3 YPC. its liek either u get blown up in the backfield , caught by lineman on sweeps, or bust a big play. i don't get it. its more realitic then last years madden where i rand for 500 yards in 1 game with chris brown on 42 carries but i mean come on, are u serious?


anyway i'll post a full fledged review after i log more time with the game. i urge everyone here to do the same
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Posted 27 August 2007 - 07:47 AM

I've started a Hall of Fame career game.

Good news, the coaches are quite pleased with my performace.
Bad news, Nugent can't kick field goals over 40 yards!
Keep the NY in NY Jets


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