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azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:11 AM) @ArifHasanNFL

.@LanceZierlein says on http://sports790.com that Shane Ray will need surgery on foot, 5 months recovery. "Could drop out of first"
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
MikeGangGree... Icon : (24 April 2015 - 09:40 PM) TEH RANGERS
santana Icon : (24 April 2015 - 11:32 PM) TEH WIZ
Jetsman05 Icon : (26 April 2015 - 06:57 AM) Teh Suarez
Jetsman05 Icon : (26 April 2015 - 06:58 AM) Vic Beasley is all speed. No moves, no power. Straight up the field. Could have some big games, then nothing in the next
Jetsman05 Icon : (26 April 2015 - 06:59 AM) If we don't get Mariota, we should be looking at Schreff or trading down, IMO.
Jetsman05 Icon : (26 April 2015 - 06:59 AM) A lot of good edge rushers in this draft... I wouldn't want to take Dupree that high.
Jetsman05 Icon : (26 April 2015 - 07:00 AM) Until next time fellas!
azjetfan Icon : (26 April 2015 - 01:19 PM) Helloooooooooo
azjetfan Icon : (26 April 2015 - 01:19 PM) Bueller
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (26 April 2015 - 01:33 PM) Manish says the Jets should trade down and draft Andrus Peat round 1
azjetfan Icon : (26 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Even an idiot can say something that's right every now and then
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 08:08 PM) THE CAPS
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 08:28 PM) RIOT
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 08:37 PM) Missouri edge rusher Shane Ray was arrested Monday morning for possession of marijuana in Cooper County, Missouri, Brandon Kiley of KTGR in Columbia, Missouri reports.
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 09:16 PM) Fuck the rangers!
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Yesterday, 10:22 PM) f*** RAUL
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Is This The Best Jets Staff Ever? is this the best jets staff ever?

Poll: is this the best jets staff ever? (24 member(s) have cast votes)

is this the best jets staff ever?

  1. Yes (7 votes [29.17%])

    Percentage of vote: 29.17%

  2. No (17 votes [70.83%])

    Percentage of vote: 70.83%

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Posted 14 September 2006 - 12:42 AM

is this the best jets staff ever?

if you vote no who do u think is?

i think schott has this offense looking the best it has since 1998, out defense looked very good under sutton, westhoff is one of the bets sp teams coaches, mangini looks like a stud HC, MT is a master negotaior and capologist at GM, and TB is a great head scout. what do u guys think?
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Posted 14 September 2006 - 12:54 AM

no, maybe one day it will be great, but it doesn't even compare to 1998 - 99

Parcells
Belichick
Weis
Crennell
Mangini
Dan Henning (panthers OC)

possibly greatest staff ever
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Posted 14 September 2006 - 01:47 AM

I agree with DDS but I don't think Mangini is done bringing in coaches. He'll be looking to improve his staff more then likely but I do think it's a very good one as is right now and with time perhaps we can have a run like the Pats did. Or atleast be perennial playoff contenders.
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Posted 14 September 2006 - 06:29 AM

Weeb Ewbank and Co. The staff that won the superbowl is the greatest ever. dance.gif
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Posted 14 September 2006 - 07:10 AM

No, that's a dumb question, we've played one team that will probably have a top 5 pick. For now, it's Weeb and his gang.
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Posted 14 September 2006 - 07:40 AM

Isnt this a little premature after 1 game?
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Posted 14 September 2006 - 07:54 AM

Yeah I think it is a bit early to start talking best ever. They do look almost perfect but we are also coming off a few disappointing seasons so that adds to it.
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Posted 14 September 2006 - 08:44 AM

Four people actually voted yes? hysterical.gif
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Posted 14 September 2006 - 09:20 AM

Dumb question, its been one game, a pretty good game, but still just one.
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Posted 14 September 2006 - 09:38 AM

The Parcells era never produced a Championship. Under Mangini I think that'll change and when it does it's going to equal rings for the team.

The Parcells era never produced a Championship. Under Mangini I think that'll change and when it does it's going to equal rings for the team. So, since they'll... hopefully... produce a Championship for the Jets I voted yes. The offense looked great and high powered. As soon as we get a running game going which could be in a few weeks when the OLine gets more comfortable in eachother and the system, we're gonna be really good.

The thing you have to realize is Belichick wasn't anything special when he was here. Neither were any of the other coaches. They had that potential but in no way were they at their peak. As much as I hate the guy, Tom Brady really is the reason Belichick has been successful. It comes down to QB play and Tom had/has a huge chip on his shoulder. Probably about where he was drafted. None the less, Weis is also a genius, just look at ND. So, don't forget about those things.
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Posted 14 September 2006 - 09:47 AM

QUOTE (DewayneDontSign @ Sep 14 2006, 02:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
no, maybe one day it will be great, but it doesn't even compare to 1998 - 99

Parcells
Belichick
Weis
Crennell
Mangini
Dan Henning (panthers OC)

possibly greatest staff ever


This staff also had what 4 first rounders, and still could not get a championship. Its more than just coaching. All the stars have to be aligned.
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Posted 14 September 2006 - 09:57 AM

QUOTE (jets0n @ Sep 14 2006, 08:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The Parcells era never produced a Championship. Under Mangini I think that'll change and when it does it's going to equal rings for the team.

The Parcells era never produced a Championship. Under Mangini I think that'll change and when it does it's going to equal rings for the team. So, since they'll... hopefully... produce a Championship for the Jets I voted yes. The offense looked great and high powered. As soon as we get a running game going which could be in a few weeks when the OLine gets more comfortable in eachother and the system, we're gonna be really good.

The thing you have to realize is Belichick wasn't anything special when he was here. Neither were any of the other coaches. They had that potential but in no way were they at their peak. As much as I hate the guy, Tom Brady really is the reason Belichick has been successful. It comes down to QB play and Tom had/has a huge chip on his shoulder. Probably about where he was drafted. None the less, Weis is also a genius, just look at ND. So, don't forget about those things.

It's amazing how many people don't think. They win one game against a team that was horrible last year and you think they might bring the Jets a championship somewhere down the road so you vote them the best Jets coaching staff ever? Hey, although you may think so at the time, you're first lay more than likely won't be your best! beach.gif
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Posted 14 September 2006 - 10:05 AM

QUOTE (Long Time Jet Fan @ Sep 14 2006, 11:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It's amazing how many people don't think. They win one game against a team that was horrible last year and you think they might bring the Jets a championship somewhere down the road so you vote them the best Jets coaching staff ever? Hey, although you may think so at the time, you're first lay more than likely won't be your best! beach.gif


Thing is, there hasn't been a championship here in 37 years dude. How can you say we had the best we possibly could when they didn't produce anything? Not only that, but opinions are opinions and believe it or not, mine are very well thought out. I stated the reasons for believing the way I did. This team doesn't look anything like they were supposed to. The offense was one of the best in the league. In their first season, I think we might have the best staff yet. I like what I see from the offense, obviously not the running game, but it's very versatile. The defense needs to be tweaked just a little bit but for the most part they're pretty good.

Maybe it's hype from a win that makes me feel this way. If Mangini can win with supposed no bodies then I think he'll be able to really do some damage with time and personelle. None the less, I've thought about this at length. And I think that our coaching staff now, although maybe not better RIGHT NOW, will be because they'll get us a championship. Something all the others have failed to do since Weeb.
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Posted 14 September 2006 - 10:06 AM

QUOTE (bleedsgreen @ Sep 14 2006, 11:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This staff also had what 4 first rounders, and still could not get a championship. Its more than just coaching. All the stars have to be aligned.


the first 4 rounders was the al groh era, the Parcells staff took a team that was 1-15, one of the worst teams in NFL history and made them 9-7 in their first year and an AFC Championship in their second. It was coaching at its finest.
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Posted 14 September 2006 - 10:14 AM

QUOTE (DewayneDontSign @ Sep 14 2006, 01:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
no, maybe one day it will be great, but it doesn't even compare to 1998 - 99

Parcells
Belichick
Weis
Crennell
Mangini
Dan Henning (panthers OC)

possibly greatest staff ever


Other than the Walsh West Coast era, where can you find a staff that turned into 3 NFL head coaches, 1 NCAA coach (and we ain't talking East Minnesota State College here), and Henning will probably be a Head Coach as well. Also, while they didn't win a ring together, combined they're 5 of six in Super Bowl appearances.
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Posted 14 September 2006 - 10:16 AM

QUOTE (jets0n @ Sep 14 2006, 08:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Thing is, there hasn't been a championship here in 37 years dude. How can you say we had the best we possibly could when they didn't produce anything? Not only that, but opinions are opinions and believe it or not, mine are very well thought out. I stated the reasons for believing the way I did. This team doesn't look anything like they were supposed to. The offense was one of the best in the league. In their first season, I think we might have the best staff yet. I like what I see from the offense, obviously not the running game, but it's very versatile. The defense needs to be tweaked just a little bit but for the most part they're pretty good.

Maybe it's hype from a win that makes me feel this way. If Mangini can win with supposed no bodies then I think he'll be able to really do some damage with time and personelle. None the less, I've thought about this at length. And I think that our coaching staff now, although maybe not better RIGHT NOW, will be because they'll get us a championship. Something all the others have failed to do since Weeb.

First off, just because a coaching staff gets you a championship (and the Jets are still far from that) doesn't mean they are the best. You think Eubank was the best Jets coach ever because he won a championship? Sonny Werblin won that Super Bowl plain and simple. He spent the money to bring in players likes Namath and Snell. Eubank on the other hand was a cheap SOB and was primarily responsible for the Jets sucking for so long after the Super Bowl win. The Parcells era was by far the best staff the Jets have had. Just look at what those guys have accomplished as individuals. Yeah they didn't win a championship but they turned the whole franchise around. To compare a staff that's won one game to them is ludicrous.
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Posted 14 September 2006 - 10:23 AM

QUOTE (Long Time Jet Fan @ Sep 14 2006, 11:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
First off, just because a coaching staff gets you a championship (and the Jets are still far from that) doesn't mean they are the best. You think Eubank was the best Jets coach ever because he won a championship? Sonny Werblin won that Super Bowl plain and simple. He spent the money to bring in players likes Namath and Snell. Eubank on the other hand was a cheap SOB and was primarily responsible for the Jets sucking for so long after the Super Bowl win. The Parcells era was by far the best staff the Jets have had. Just look at what those guys have accomplished as individuals. Yeah they didn't win a championship but they turned the whole franchise around. To compare a staff that's won one game to them is ludicrous.


No it isn't. Herman Edwards lead the Jets to a better results/record than Parcells. So by your logic Herman Edwards is better if not just as good as Parcells.

Bottom line, and I'll use Vin Diesel here: "It doesn't matter if you win by an inch or a mile." Something to that effect anyway. Point is, if you didn't get a ring, then you're no better than the other 30 teams that failed to get that ring too. You lost. Plain and simple.

Parcells and his fellows didn't bring any rings. No Championships. Thus their time here is moot. They failed. This era, whether its one week in or not, has already started off with a win. They not only had a win but they looked pretty good. Thus, since the others are losers and this staff might actually have a shot at winning-- maybe not right now, but in the future-- then that's why they are better to me. Ok?
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Posted 14 September 2006 - 10:40 AM

QUOTE (jets0n @ Sep 14 2006, 08:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
No it isn't. Herman Edwards lead the Jets to a better results/record than Parcells. So by your logic Herman Edwards is better if not just as good as Parcells.

Bottom line, and I'll use Vin Diesel here: "It doesn't matter if you win by an inch or a mile." Something to that effect anyway. Point is, if you didn't get a ring, then you're no better than the other 30 teams that failed to get that ring too. You lost. Plain and simple.

Parcells and his fellows didn't bring any rings. No Championships. Thus their time here is moot. They failed. This era, whether its one week in or not, has already started off with a win. They not only had a win but they looked pretty good. Thus, since the others are losers and this staff might actually have a shot at winning-- maybe not right now, but in the future-- then that's why they are better to me. Ok?

That's hogwash. How does my logic possibly say Edwards is better than Parcells? I have no idea how you drew that conclusion. Edwards was set up by those that came before him. That's the only reason he had a decent record for a while. He and his regime left the team is worse shape than when they got here. We're talking about the best Jets staff, not the best coaching staff. There's no way you can say an unprovoen collection of coaches that have a 1-0 is best Jets staff ever. That makes absolutely no sense.
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Posted 14 September 2006 - 12:04 PM

No - we've played one game so far thats why. Off the field so far they have been tremendous but it remains to be seen how they do on the field.
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Posted 14 September 2006 - 12:59 PM

It's better than last year's. That's all I care about right now.
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