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ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:21 AM) I meant the hits on Fitz at on the first Drive or two with the fumbles and almost fumbles....The Tom Brady rule where balls that used to be fumbles are incomplete. We recovered the ball on all but one but it was ruled incomplete
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:26 AM) The offensive line stepped off after Hughes got hurt for however long he was out. I don't blame J. Marsh for that fumble because that was just a hell of a play. Imo Fitz had a career best game even with only 1 td passing. Never seen him so accurate. So yeah when I meant ugly I meant dline penetration and the 1st two drives ending up in fieldgoals
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:30 AM) But 31 points given up passing by the defense passing was bad. It wasn't just 2 long bombs and that defensive touchdown leading to 21 points. 3q1 against a bad team was terrible for the defense. Without the offense putting up 37 the Jets,would have lost so yeah I consider it an ugly start on both ends
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:32 AM) I'm glad like everyone else that the Jets won. Especially with getting with by the Bills multiple times it was nice revenge.
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:34 AM) Just saying that the Bills look like a bad team this year and the Jets have to face a lot of teams that are probably playoff bound again so yes there is a lot of concern
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 11:39 AM) fitz look good and lets not forget the 50+ yarder to decker that was called back on a BS holding penalty. plus if you rewatch it, the jets d-line was getting held like crazy and never got calls. I seen McLendon, williams, and wilk all complaining about it
azjetfan Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:32 PM) I think the game plan for the D was to keep Taylor in the pocker
azjetfan Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:33 PM) They didn't want him running around when they only rushed 3-4 guts
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:37 PM) bills fired their OC today after the loss yesterday lol
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:38 PM) yeah we didn't really rush, we just tried to keep contain on the outside and collapse the middle
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:38 PM) on the salas TD, one of our LBers went for the sack and broke contain and pryor got away and made the play
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:39 PM) when we did rush which was rare, we had a spy
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 11:11 PM) As far as the Bills firing the oc I'm not sure I agree with it with Watkins having major foot problem with a steel rod in his surgically repaired foot but I dont follow the Bills so cant really say. I do think they need to get rid of Rob Ryan though. He had a decent year with the Browns then was terrible with the Cowboys and Saints. He isn't half the DC that Rex is. I still think Rex can be a good head coach withe the right coaches and roster but Rob Ryan isn't the answer. But if Rex wants to ruin his chance of staying a head coach by keeping his brother on the coaching staff like he ruined his head coaching job keeping Sanchez as a starter then that's his stupidity
ganggreen2003 Icon : (17 September 2016 - 12:20 AM) The A Football Life of Curtis Martin is a MUST WATCH!!!!
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (17 September 2016 - 02:03 PM) They got rid of their OC after their defense was ripped apart
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:03 PM) Well hell that makes even less sense. The defense gets ripped apart so let's get rid of the oc instead of the dc.they didn't have much of a run game but a lot of passes yards. If they wanted to blame anyone for nearly 40 points against them it was their defense. But guess Rex used the ocean as the scale goat instead of his brother
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:04 PM) Oc not ocean. Damn Auto correct on phone
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:04 PM) And scape goatee
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:05 PM) Lol still can't get it right
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:13 PM) Not sure about anyone else but I'm extremely interested in the 49r/ Panther game at 1pm. Just want to see if the 49rs are actually good this year or if the Rams have become one of the worst teams in the league this year
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:16 PM) If the Rams have regressed that much then all the Todd Gurley owners in fantasy will likely have low points from him all year. Might even be worth trying to trade him early if they look just as bad this week before his stock drops
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:26 PM) I drafted him last year and also had David Johnson, Chris Johnson, Roetlesburger, Romo, Palmer, Barnage,, .....my whole team was stacked with starters. Entire team wasc stacked with starters. Even bench. Made tge Superbowl but did have a rough start at behinning of season when Romo and Roethlisberger wentvdown at the start of season also lost amazing starting rb and wr all within the 1st 4 games but worked the waivers really well..shut out until garbage time by a team that was terrible last year
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:28 PM) Last part meant Rams were shut out entire game even in garbage time against 49r backups
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:29 PM) Sorry about typos. Hard to type on small phone screen
MikeGangGree... Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:00 PM) This is why I'm glad Rex is gone. Fire the OC after the D gives up 500 yards??
MikeGangGree... Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:01 PM) UPDATE THE UPDATE!!!!
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:25 PM) Yep Rex isn't a bad coach but he needs to have all player and coach decisions as far as firing and hiring taken out of his hands. His problem is he doesn't know to separate the job from loyalty to players and is unable to let underperforming players go
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:27 PM) He was great as a DC because he wasn't in charge of roster and firing decisions. He will never make it as a good head coach until he can get rid of loyalty and run a team like any boss runs a business.
azjetfan Icon : (17 September 2016 - 07:16 PM) I loved Rex as a person. But he is severely handicapped in his skill set as a HC. He has not adapted and will not adapt. That's why he isn't here and will be fired from Buffalo.
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:05 AM) It's all guessing and I will like likely stick with my two starters that are injured and playing but D.Thomas looks like he is still in a lot of pain and Stewart is still in the locker room getting ankle treatment so both could be on a snap count
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:06 AM) I have good wr's on bench and good rb's on bench but they have bad matchups. Do t trust Diggs against Greenbay or Doug Martin against Arizona both on bench
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:08 AM) If I made changes I have Crabtree for Oakland Aagainst Atlanta and Abdullah for Detroit against 49rs as my two options I would choose if I made any changes
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:10 AM) Actually have it backwards with my running back teams
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:12 AM) Detroit vs Titans who I believe has a legit defense. Panthers have a better team but the ankle for Stewart and both the Titans and 49rs are ranked #1 against the run. Not a believer in the 49rs defensesthough
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:13 AM) Believe the Rams oline just sucks
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:15 AM) Abdullah splits carries but he did get 17 last week and also catches a lot of passes and has a better qb so could exploit the Titans still
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:16 AM) Will most likely do my own thing anyway just looking for input from those that actually study in fantasy if anyone feels like offering their opinions. If not it's cool too. Thanks
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:18 AM) If not for the injuries to the two players I'd keep them in for sure but all it takes for Thomas is a hit to the hip and a tackle by the ankle for Stewart if they aren't on a snap count already or if pain doesn't get to them.
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 12:45 PM) Well looks like leaving in Stewart was,a,bad move in locker room
MikeGangGree... Icon : (18 September 2016 - 04:54 PM) Good news! Dolphins suck
santana Icon : (19 September 2016 - 08:08 AM) Thanks professor
Jetsfan115 Icon : (23 September 2016 - 03:55 PM) updated roster. FB howsare released, TE bowman added to roster
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The Moves I Would Make If I were the GM

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Posted 23 January 2007 - 02:32 PM

Sign Michael Turner (giving up our 1st rounder if SD puts a first-round tender on him )

Sign Asante Samuels, Tully Banta-Cain, Adalius Thomas, Terdell Sands & Leonard Davis

Draft Adam Carriker with our 2nd rounder if possible or trade up into the bottom of round 1 to grab him.

Use the rest of the draft to get more defensive help at DT and LB with other best available players taken in the right spots.

Now I know getting all of the free agents I listed will be extremely hard if not impossible, but I sure as hell would do my best.

Bonus... Trade Vilma for a good 1st round pick. beach.gif
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Posted 23 January 2007 - 02:41 PM

Terdell Sands is too tall to be a NT...

What would we do with Banta-Cain and the 30 year old Adalius Thomas?...

I like the Leonard Davis signing however...

I would never give up a first rounder for Turner...

And trading Vilma is ridiculous...
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Posted 23 January 2007 - 02:57 PM

QUOTE (SignalZero @ Jan 23 2007, 04:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sign Michael Turner (giving up our 1st rounder if SD puts a first-round tender on him )

Sign Asante Samuels, Tully Banta-Cain, Adalius Thomas, Terdell Sands & Leonard Davis

Draft Adam Carriker with our 2nd rounder if possible or trade up into the bottom of round 1 to grab him.

Use the rest of the draft to get more defensive help at DT and LB with other best available players taken in the right spots.

Now I know getting all of the free agents I listed will be extremely hard if not impossible, but I sure as hell would do my best.

Bonus... Trade Vilma for a good 1st round pick. beach.gif


1. i do not think micheal turner is worth a 1st round draft choice. even though it will be at #25, we should bring in our own players via the draft and coach them up in our system. i just feel like we would be getting ripped off because SD wouldn't be losing anything. whether or not turner is on their team next season does not really matter since they have LT. giving them a 1st rounder when james and alexander couldn't even get a 2nd rounder would be totally unfair to us. we should just draft micheal bush at #37 since he might be the steal of the draft when he turns out to be a TD machine.

2. we should sign samuel, since it would take him away from the pats and make our secondary very strong. it would give miller the few years he needs to develop into a better CB while dyson holds the fort down. however, who knows if the pats will let him walk. they let players walk when they were winning super bowls but maybe they react differently since they lost.

3. i do not know much about tully banta-cain, but he will be 27 next season and again, we should draft our own players and groom them. i've never heard of this guy before and he might have had a good season due to the patriots system.

4. we definitely should not pick up adalius thomas for reasons i have stated here. http://nyjetsfan.com...topic=16624&hl=
we are a young team and there is no reason to overpay for a player that does not fit the youth movement, will get way overpaid, all while his production declines.

5. terdell sands will be 28 and he doesn't even start for his own team. what makes you think he can come here and become a full time starter?? he also seems too lean at 6'7 335. he should be at least 350-360 if he was also really thick. just think, hes 5 inches taller than wilfork, but just 10 lbs heavier?? prob not a good option at NT, considering the best one in the league is hamption who is 6'1 320.. much like our current NT.

6. leonard davis might be a good instant upgrade at guard over moore. hes huge and is known for his run blocking skills. not sure how much he would cost because he was a super high pick some time ago, so he still might command a lot of money.

7. we should draft carriker with our first rounder, and then bush in the second. (both ways, the RB and DE positions are filled, though turner is not worth a 1st and carriker won't drop to the second round)
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Posted 23 January 2007 - 02:57 PM

I don't like giving up a 1st rounder for Michael Turner either...the guy has never started, I would much rather address the RB situation in the draft and its a deep one! I would like the Leonard Davis signing he is HUGE!
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Posted 23 January 2007 - 03:12 PM

I would take turner for our second second rounder no higher.

If I were GM I would do the following.

Defensive Line:
We need a NT as a priority. D-Rob can move to Right side if needed but if trading him means we can pick up a big strong right end with pass rush potential I wouldn't be opposed.

Linebacker: We need another linebacker big versatile linebacker in the Vrabel of the Patriots Mould, someone who can line up anywhere. I would keep the 4 starters from this year to see if the aquired NT improves things.

Cornerback: Need a decent corner, no matter how well he plays if we are starting Hank Poteat something is wrong, Samuel should be a great pick up.

Safety: I have gone right off Coleman, I understand we constantly had to blitz Rhodes because of our poor QB pressure leaving him isolated but that's 2 years running I haven't been happy with him. I think Smith should be given a shot.

Offensive Line - Right Guard is priority to me, I'm happy with Clement if we have too many needs to address it.

WR - If we loose J-Mac, is Brad Smith ready, possibly. We need to find a lower round WR to cover this loss.

QB - veteran back up cause Ramsey will be gone.

TE - I'd like another one. However we do have the guy who's name I can't remember coming back.

RB/FB - Askew, Barlow and Houston can all go for me. There is a guy from Hawaii that is 5-9 and 240, I'd like someone like that to be our goal line battering ram, Leon can carry the load from until the red zone is reached.
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Posted 23 January 2007 - 03:22 PM

thats all an ok plan besides the vilma trade, will ppl stop talking about trading vilma, hes r best player and hes young so theirs like 99% chance hes only gonna get better, besides if we traded him it would bite us in the ass and we would all regret it and call the front office stupid and one of the worst trades in jet history
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Posted 23 January 2007 - 04:13 PM

If Turner is the real deal worth our #1 pick, nobody would know that better than Schotty. If he said to do it, I wouldn't hesitate.
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Posted 23 January 2007 - 08:27 PM

QUOTE (SignalZero @ Jan 23 2007, 04:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If Turner is the real deal worth our #1 pick, nobody would know that better than Schotty. If he said to do it, I wouldn't hesitate.


Brian Shottenheimer? The QB coach...I'm sure he's knows no more than your average scout about Turner. Except for maybe his jock size...

I will be pissed if we give up a first for Turner...a second rounder I could deal with....but I'd rather leave Turner alone...
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Posted 23 January 2007 - 08:30 PM

QUOTE (HurricaneJet32 @ Jan 23 2007, 09:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Brian Shottenheimer? The QB coach...I'm sure he's knows no more than your average scout about Turner. Except for maybe his jock size...

I will be pissed if we give up a first for Turner...a second rounder I could deal with....but I'd rather leave Turner alone...

No you mean Brian Schottenheimer the same coach that got to see Turner up close and personal during his time in SD.
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Posted 23 January 2007 - 08:50 PM

QUOTE (SignalZero @ Jan 23 2007, 09:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
No you mean Brian Schottenheimer the same coach that got to see Turner up close and personal during his time in SD.


Yeah he got to see him in practice...the general public can watch that...but he never worked with him. He may know if he's a good guy or hard worker. But he never ran drills with him...never sat in the film room and studied tape with him...never reviews photos of previous plays he ran in game with him...

Schottenheimer can't tell you much more than a scout can...except for maybe what he heard from the RB coaches...
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Posted 24 January 2007 - 01:03 AM

QUOTE (HurricaneJet32 @ Jan 23 2007, 09:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah he got to see him in practice...the general public can watch that...but he never worked with him. He may know if he's a good guy or hard worker. But he never ran drills with him...never sat in the film room and studied tape with him...never reviews photos of previous plays he ran in game with him...

Schottenheimer can't tell you much more than a scout can...except for maybe what he heard from the RB coaches...

Wrong answer sports fan....

You're going to try and tell me that Schott doesn't have more intel on Turner than your average scout? Dude, he not only got to see him close up every day but I'm sure he got the heads up on what the other coaches thought of him as well, from the RB coach right on up to his Dad.
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Posted 24 January 2007 - 02:10 AM

QUOTE (SignalZero @ Jan 24 2007, 01:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Wrong answer sports fan....

You're going to try and tell me that Schott doesn't have more intel on Turner than your average scout? Dude, he not only got to see him close up every day but I'm sure he got the heads up on what the other coaches thought of him as well, from the RB coach right on up to his Dad.


I agree. Schott has got to know more then some scout. The guy practiced with him and watched him play for 2-3 years and if Schott says pull the trigger I'm with him.
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Posted 24 January 2007 - 07:46 AM

QUOTE (SignalZero @ Jan 24 2007, 01:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Wrong answer sports fan....

You're going to try and tell me that Schott doesn't have more intel on Turner than your average scout? Dude, he not only got to see him close up every day but I'm sure he got the heads up on what the other coaches thought of him as well, from the RB coach right on up to his Dad.



Yeah that is exactly my point...he only knows what other people tell him. He has no first hand experience and never coached him directly. That isn't that much different than asking a scout...yes...he can talk to the other coaches...but that is other people's opinion...I wouldn't make a big GM decision based on what another team's coaches tell me about a guy...
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