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azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:52 AM) He is a good QB and I would love to have him. However IMO our 6 is not good value for us. Not to mention if he hates the idea of LA what is he going to think of NY? Contract situation would have to be worked out prior to trade as well. Extreme long shot to land Rivers. My money says we are more likely to land Brees.
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:53 AM) which is still a very long shot
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:46 AM) he may just hate ownership. LT's comments yesterday was interesting.
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) “I personally don’t think so,” Tomlinson said. “I really think this is a situation where Philip Rivers wants to move on. The reason why I think that and the reason why I feel like that is the Chargers have already approached Philip about doing another contract and he declined it. He doesn’t want anything to do with it; he didn’t even want to talk about another contract with the San Diego Chargers. That tells me that he’s thinking about moving on.”

“You never want to trade your franchise quarterback,” Tomlinson said, “that’s never the case. However, in this situation they might have no choice but to do so because I don’t know if Philip [Rivers] wants to be there anymore. I think he’s lost confidence in the organization. He’s seeing a lot of changes going on and the L.A. thing is valid; him not wanting to go to L.A., that is very valid, I can see that. So no, it doesn’t make sense to move on from Philip because he’s a franchise quarterback and he still has three to four very good years left.”
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) missed the LA line. nvm. guess that is a legit concern.
Mr_Jet Icon : (21 April 2015 - 03:57 PM) He doesn't want to play for a franchise based in Los Angeles, but he'd be okay with playing for one based in New York City?
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 04:28 PM) That's the point we have all been making.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:05 PM) Jets vs colts Monday night week2
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:09 PM) Jets open at home against the browns
ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:52 PM) Week 5 Bye after the London Game against the Dolphags
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) Rivers is likely going to Tennessee. Would LOVE to have him here but we likely won't make the trade. I'd easily give this year and next year
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) 's first rounder for him
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 11:03 AM) IMO that's a steep price. I would swap this years first and a conditional 1st next year. Assuming we make the AFC Championship. That would be a 28-32nd pick. Otherwise a second.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:07 PM) Yes 2 1st is a lot
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:10 PM) draft is next week, pumped
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:02 PM) What are thoughts on getting a RB in round 1? McShay's newest mock has us taking Gurley at 6. I don't think we should take him that high, but if we trade down and he's available I'd love to snag him, ACL and all. He's got an unreal skill set that, once healthy, will translate readily to the NFL. We're not getting a QB this year without paying a king's ransom, and unless we pay a ransom for a top guy I say ignore QB. I don't want us to take a Hundley or Petty type in the 2nd or 3rd round when we need other pieces (edge rush, OL)
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
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Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
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I'm Am Now 100% Sold On Cutler he's the Jets knight in shining armor

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Posted 27 February 2006 - 01:35 PM

QUOTE (SMC @ Feb 27 2006, 11:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The back foot is not the biggest issue, it's the propensity to make bad reads and force the ball. What also troubles me is that QBs on bad college teams like Steve McNair and Eli Manning for example, put up big numbers but somehow Cutler is given a slide. He should have been putting up Kobe-esque numbers but he wasn't. That raises a flag for me.

Leinart had the best response to a question on Cutler. Leinart said, "I've been a winner my whole career. That's the most important thing. I just win."


He's not putting u Kobe-esque numbers because he was playing with a bad team...but he wasn't playing against bad teams...he was playing against some of the best teams in college football! So the numbers he put up are pretty incredible considering the circumstances...
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Posted 27 February 2006 - 01:48 PM

I think Cutler's cons can be coached. We have a OC that turned Brees into something, so I'm comfortable with him being able to coach him too.
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Posted 27 February 2006 - 02:57 PM

QUOTE (sdubb6 @ Feb 27 2006, 10:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I feel you dawg but you have to take into consideration that footwork and fundementals are going to be treated at the next level.


Actually, fundementals are just that...fundementals. You have them or you don't. And what you have is honed at the COLLEGE level. The NFL is not there to teach fundementals. You should have them by the time you get there. They may be tweaked, but you have to have them.

That's like saying "oh, they'll teach you writing fundementals in college". Of course they don't. That's something you learn on a lower level. When you get up to a certain level you are EXPECTED to know certain things. If you don't you will never succeed.
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Posted 27 February 2006 - 03:15 PM

He is apparently showing off some nice ability at the combine, and that is just what he needs to do after the hype that was put out about him before. People need to appreciate the fact that you have to prove yourself to earn a top ten pick. Cutler is finally starting to exhibit the ability that people claimed he would, which doesn't change the hype from before.

Still, I don't like questions about decision making. Decision making is what being a QB is about. The only QB I turst with the ball who makes poor ones is Favre and that is only because he has proven he can make several mistakes and win.

I am still against drafting him at #4.
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Posted 27 February 2006 - 03:16 PM

the only player im sold on this draft is dbrickashaw ferguson

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Posted 27 February 2006 - 03:23 PM

QUOTE (JetSon @ Feb 27 2006, 01:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Do people actually prefer Cutler to Leinart, I guess so.


Some do and some don't. I think the main problem is his arm strength. Has adequate arm strength from what I am hearing and read. Plus he had surgery on his arm before the 05' NCAA football season and missed his sophmore season because of his rotator cuff so he might have a problem with durability. Too most people he reminds them of pennington, just pennington wasn't a winner in college like he was. But after all winning is the most important thing. IMO I think Leinart will be a good-great QB if he stays healthy.
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Posted 27 February 2006 - 03:30 PM

wow.. with my back injuries having limited me, it kinda hurts me to know that nfl prospects are throwing up 225 only 25 times or so, when at 17, I was doing nearly 20 reps myself. I wont say I was as talented as some of these guys are.. but my strength was definitely up there. i'll be lucky if i can put up 225 10 times today.
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Posted 27 February 2006 - 03:31 PM

lol i cant even bench 200

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Posted 27 February 2006 - 03:32 PM

QUOTE (a1elbow @ Feb 27 2006, 03:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Still, I don't like questions about decision making. Decision making is what being a QB is about. The only QB I turst with the ball who makes poor ones is Favre and that is only because he has proven he can make several mistakes and win.

I am still against drafting him at #4.


I agree with you completely... but say for instance we get another good pick out of an Abraham deal, do we really want to run the risk of not grabbing up Cutler before he's taken off the board?
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Posted 27 February 2006 - 03:57 PM

QUOTE (a1elbow @ Feb 27 2006, 03:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
He is apparently showing off some nice ability at the combine, and that is just what he needs to do after the hype that was put out about him before. People need to appreciate the fact that you have to prove yourself to earn a top ten pick. Cutler is finally starting to exhibit the ability that people claimed he would, which doesn't change the hype from before.

Still, I don't like questions about decision making. Decision making is what being a QB is about. The only QB I turst with the ball who makes poor ones is Favre and that is only because he has proven he can make several mistakes and win.

I am still against drafting him at #4.


Agreed. My question to everyone who is in love with Cutler is this: what is the Jets' answer to the gaping hole at LT? Adrian Jones is a serviceable RT at best. It seems like the Jets have some real viable choices at QB (Chad, Shaub, Rivers, Ramsey, etc.) but they don't have one at the premier position of LT. Their only real option is D'Brick who, by all indications, should be sitting there at 4.
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Posted 27 February 2006 - 04:05 PM

QUOTE (Amen @ Feb 27 2006, 04:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I agree with you completely... but say for instance we get another good pick out of an Abraham deal, do we really want to run the risk of not grabbing up Cutler before he's taken off the board?


That's what I'm saying, and isn't Winston supposedly just as good as D'Brick? I know Bradway had interest in him when the Senior Bowl was in session and that was probably because he fell in love with Cutler.

By the way, we all know that INT's can happen because of WR-QB communication. Vandy has at best so-so receivers. I think we can attribute some of those INT's to them but I'm sure alot of those came from a guy trying desperately to carry his team and forcing it in there. It's a noble characteristic and for Cutler it happend to be true. Most times it worked... and a handful of times it bit him in the ass.

Though, I love Leinart as a prospect his recent elbow injury as well as his shoulder sugery scare me off a little bit. Let's just say I'm Chad-shocked and I want a completely healthy shoulder with a bang to it. I have a feeling Cutler's decision making skills will get better anyway. I just can't see how Cutler makes it past Oakland and even if he did there's a few other teams that I think would be happy to grab him up. I mean he is putting on display why people are talking up his game so much. And it's getting to the point that after Vince posted bad wonderlick scores that Tennessee is ready to draft Cutler. Chow supposedly doesn't want to center his offense around Vince. The scary thing is Chow and Fisher have nothing but love for Cutler and got to coach him all week. That's the scary part.

QUOTE (SMC @ Feb 27 2006, 04:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Agreed. My question to everyone who is in love with Cutler is this: what is the Jets' answer to the gaping hole at LT? Adrian Jones is a serviceable RT at best. It seems like the Jets have some real viable choices at QB (Chad, Shaub, Rivers, Ramsey, etc.) but they don't have one at the premier position of LT. Their only real option is D'Brick who, by all indications, should be sitting there at 4.


There's no way you can honestly say you think that Ramsey or even unproven Rivers who has questionable arm strength are "real viable" options. Schaub I can see as a good replacement, but the latter two aren't anymore of an improvement at the QB position as Jones is serviceable at LT, which I disagree with. I think Jones played well and I think he'll play even better. Honestly, I think it's time the Jets made a splash with their team and drafting a lineman isn't exactly over-hauling or blowing up the offense. All that's doing is filling a hole when the biggest hole in my opinion is at the QB position. I know all of the benefits of drafting D'Brick, but I still think it's just as big a risk as taking Cutler and plus I think Winston would be just as good and he'd be available around the pick that we'd get for trading Abe.

I can't help to think though that the Jets might trade up to number 1 and take Bush though. That'd be sweet.
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Posted 27 February 2006 - 04:14 PM

QUOTE (penningtonpays @ Feb 27 2006, 09:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
lol i cant even bench 200


Not as bad as me. Ive just done some lifting and maxed at 120lbs having lifted it 10 times
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Posted 27 February 2006 - 04:20 PM

QUOTE (jets0n @ Feb 27 2006, 03:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
... and plus I think Winston would be just as good and he'd be available around the pick that we'd get for trading Abe.


Ah the rub. We don't have that pick right now. I might rather have Cutler and the second best LT in the draft than Ferguson and the fourth best QB, but untill Abe is traded and we know the concrete of the return, I'm not going to assume anything. (of course, a late first isn't crazy like the idea of getting Oakland's pick, but that is another deal).
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Posted 27 February 2006 - 04:21 PM

QUOTE (jets0n @ Feb 27 2006, 04:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
There's no way you can honestly say you think that Ramsey or even unproven Rivers who has questionable arm strength are "real viable" options. Schaub I can see as a good replacement, but the latter two aren't anymore of an improvement at the QB position as Jones is serviceable at LT, which I disagree with. I think Jones played well and I think he'll play even better. Honestly, I think it's time the Jets made a splash with their team and drafting a lineman isn't exactly over-hauling or blowing up the offense. All that's doing is filling a hole when the biggest hole in my opinion is at the QB position. I know all of the benefits of drafting D'Brick, but I still think it's just as big a risk as taking Cutler and plus I think Winston would be just as good and he'd be available around the pick that we'd get for trading Abe.

I can't help to think though that the Jets might trade up to number 1 and take Bush though. That'd be sweet.


I may have not made myself clear here. By "viable" option I mean a serviceable QB. I certainly don't think that Ramsey or Rivers are "franchise" QBs. The only franchise QBs in my mind are a 100% healthy Chad and Leinart. Cutler & Young are still enigmas, as is Rivers. But D'Brick is a franchise LT, but Jones will never be. The two biggest holes on the Jets are QB & LT and as I said, there is no other option at LT at the level of talent as D'Brick. Now, taking Cutler and Winston Justice (with the Abe pick) is not something I'm averse to, but Justice, although as a RT he protected Leinart's blind side, would still have to get aclimated to the switch to LT which D'Brick would not have to do.
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Posted 27 February 2006 - 04:35 PM

QUOTE (a1elbow @ Feb 27 2006, 04:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ah the rub. We don't have that pick right now. I might rather have Cutler and the second best LT in the draft than Ferguson and the fourth best QB, but untill Abe is traded and we know the concrete of the return, I'm not going to assume anything. (of course, a late first isn't crazy like the idea of getting Oakland's pick, but that is another deal).



QUOTE (SMC @ Feb 27 2006, 04:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I may have not made myself clear here. By "viable" option I mean a serviceable QB. I certainly don't think that Ramsey or Rivers are "franchise" QBs. The only franchise QBs in my mind are a 100% healthy Chad and Leinart. Cutler & Young are still enigmas, as is Rivers. But D'Brick is a franchise LT, but Jones will never be. The two biggest holes on the Jets are QB & LT and as I said, there is no other option at LT at the level of talent as D'Brick. Now, taking Cutler and Winston Justice (with the Abe pick) is not something I'm averse to, but Justice, although as a RT he protected Leinart's blind side, would still have to get aclimated to the switch to LT which D'Brick would not have to do.



Agreed and understood on both posts. However, SMC I don't think I would crosstrain Winston Justice to LT. I think I would keep him at RT and leave Jones where he's at, but that's because I think Jones will be able to hold his own. Time will tell and it may not be telling us anything until Houston is on the clock. I'm thinking that the Jets are gonna wait till they pick to assess Abes value and how he is gonna fit into their scheme of things. Although, I would like to see the Jets trade for an additional 1st round pick before the draft.

The fun of it all is there are so many holes and only a few realistic options to attain replacements through the draft. It comes down to philosophy. Really we'll have a clearer picture after the free agency.
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Posted 27 February 2006 - 09:04 PM

QUOTE (sdubb6 @ Feb 27 2006, 09:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Forget you guy's and saying that Cutler is a hype machine. This guy truly is an amazing athlete. I watched the combine all day on Sunday sometime's seeing the same event twice and Jay Cutler is the TRUTH. He threw alot of balls and hardly missed and the WR's were saying "You better have your head on a swivle because the ball get's on you in a hurry". The guy made every throw with ease, his *beep*y arrogant attitude and sure of himself ability. He also took part in the 225lbs bench in which he benched 225lbs 25 times, that was what one of the top rated interior offensive lineman was pushing at best. (are you kidding me!), not to mention his 40 time was good. He took part in every drill and dominated in every aspect. Ball placement to velocity he had it. Another thing that stands out to me is on a large percentage of his throws playing for Vandy are with him getting popped in the mouth and making "thread the needle" type of throw's and for all you hater's who doubt this mans ability are in for a rude awakening. If you thought the Jay "cut's" stock couldn't get any better. Right now it's sky-rocketing. At 6'3 210 plus he's a big,stong "gerthy" guy who in my opinion is the exact opposite of Penninton. If you want a Q.B that can weather the storm the only top flight Q.B that can is Cutler. I seriously can't say enough about this guy when his only hang-up's are mehanics and decision making is a far cry from any true weakness. In my eye's as well as many other scout's,G.M's,coaches he is the best Q.B in the draft hands down.

Before this week we were saying that taking him at 4 was insane and even I thought so but right now we might have to trade up to get him. He's that good.

Sorry to make another thread on Cutler and you don't have to respond to it just read it and take it into consideration.

Thanx.

calm down there cowboy. dont go brokeback about this guy. hes not a bargain at the 4th pick. hes a 2nd or 3rd rounder. does he know what it is like to win? can he handle the nfl the most paid attention to league in the northwestern hemisphere? he played in vanderbilt first of all. sure they made progress with him but he has this negative aura about him that he is destined to fail. and i think we all know u were gaga about jay way before this post.
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Posted 27 February 2006 - 09:28 PM

QUOTE (SMC @ Feb 27 2006, 10:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The back foot is not the biggest issue, it's the propensity to make bad reads and force the ball. What also troubles me is that QBs on bad college teams like Steve McNair and Eli Manning for example, put up big numbers but somehow Cutler is given a slide. He should have been putting up Kobe-esque numbers but he wasn't. That raises a flag for me.

Leinart had the best response to a question on Cutler. Leinart said, "I've been a winner my whole career. That's the most important thing. I just win."


Wait Eli played for Ole Miss. Not exactly USC but a top tier football school for sure

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Posted 27 February 2006 - 09:30 PM

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calm down there cowboy. dont go brokeback about this guy. hes not a bargain at the 4th pick. hes a 2nd or 3rd rounder. does he know what it is like to win? can he handle the nfl the most paid attention to league in the northwestern hemisphere? he played in vanderbilt first of all. sure they made progress with him but he has this negative aura about him that he is destined to fail. and i think we all know u were gaga about jay way before this post.[/b]


What the fvck is your point?. Like really!?!?!?. I liked him before the combine but now that I seen him perform under the microscope I think he's a lock. I'll be here for ya to force feed you a nice big serving of crow when you see him preform on the big stage. How do you like your crow? rare, medium rare or well done.


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Posted 27 February 2006 - 09:45 PM

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Actually, fundementals are just that...fundementals. You have them or you don't. And what you have is honed at the COLLEGE level. The NFL is not there to teach fundementals. You should have them by the time you get there. They may be tweaked, but you have to have them.

That's like saying "oh, they'll teach you writing fundementals in college". Of course they don't. That's something you learn on a lower level. When you get up to a certain level you are EXPECTED to know certain things. If you don't you will never succeed.


Maybe I should have not said fundamentals, how about mechanic's?. Yea I think that sounds better. You are worng yet again. The coaches are there to teach mechanic's. You think a guy off the street that get's a chance to play for a team that possess good hand's and speed is not going to be taught mechanic's?. Look every Q.B coach will never look at a Q.B and say this kid is perfect, there will always be something to teach. So yes they will work with Cutler,Leinart and Young on the funementals A.K.A mechanic's and if we think that Cutler needs a bit of work Vince Young is teaching's are going to be catastrophic.
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Posted 27 February 2006 - 10:25 PM

IMO, the only game ready QB in the draft is Leinart. Young and Cutler are both going to need work... how much work I don't know... Young throws sidearm and Cutler can't get his feet under him.

The sad thing is, I'm actually interested in the Jets picking up Marcus Vick... we got 3 #4s... he might be the steal of the draft and Mangini might be the no-nonesense type of guy that can keep him straight.
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