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MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 08:57 AM) GET RIVERS
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 08:59 AM) It's going to cost us 6 because we are going to have to outbid a bunch of teams
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:52 AM) He is a good QB and I would love to have him. However IMO our 6 is not good value for us. Not to mention if he hates the idea of LA what is he going to think of NY? Contract situation would have to be worked out prior to trade as well. Extreme long shot to land Rivers. My money says we are more likely to land Brees.
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:53 AM) which is still a very long shot
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:46 AM) he may just hate ownership. LT's comments yesterday was interesting.
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) “I personally don’t think so,” Tomlinson said. “I really think this is a situation where Philip Rivers wants to move on. The reason why I think that and the reason why I feel like that is the Chargers have already approached Philip about doing another contract and he declined it. He doesn’t want anything to do with it; he didn’t even want to talk about another contract with the San Diego Chargers. That tells me that he’s thinking about moving on.”

“You never want to trade your franchise quarterback,” Tomlinson said, “that’s never the case. However, in this situation they might have no choice but to do so because I don’t know if Philip [Rivers] wants to be there anymore. I think he’s lost confidence in the organization. He’s seeing a lot of changes going on and the L.A. thing is valid; him not wanting to go to L.A., that is very valid, I can see that. So no, it doesn’t make sense to move on from Philip because he’s a franchise quarterback and he still has three to four very good years left.”
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) missed the LA line. nvm. guess that is a legit concern.
Mr_Jet Icon : (21 April 2015 - 03:57 PM) He doesn't want to play for a franchise based in Los Angeles, but he'd be okay with playing for one based in New York City?
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 04:28 PM) That's the point we have all been making.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:05 PM) Jets vs colts Monday night week2
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:09 PM) Jets open at home against the browns
ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:52 PM) Week 5 Bye after the London Game against the Dolphags
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) Rivers is likely going to Tennessee. Would LOVE to have him here but we likely won't make the trade. I'd easily give this year and next year
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) 's first rounder for him
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 11:03 AM) IMO that's a steep price. I would swap this years first and a conditional 1st next year. Assuming we make the AFC Championship. That would be a 28-32nd pick. Otherwise a second.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:07 PM) Yes 2 1st is a lot
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:10 PM) draft is next week, pumped
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:02 PM) What are thoughts on getting a RB in round 1? McShay's newest mock has us taking Gurley at 6. I don't think we should take him that high, but if we trade down and he's available I'd love to snag him, ACL and all. He's got an unreal skill set that, once healthy, will translate readily to the NFL. We're not getting a QB this year without paying a king's ransom, and unless we pay a ransom for a top guy I say ignore QB. I don't want us to take a Hundley or Petty type in the 2nd or 3rd round when we need other pieces (edge rush, OL)
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (Yesterday, 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (Yesterday, 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (Yesterday, 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
Chaos Icon : (Yesterday, 10:11 AM) @ArifHasanNFL

.@LanceZierlein says on http://sports790.com that Shane Ray will need surgery on foot, 5 months recovery. "Could drop out of first"
Chaos Icon : (Yesterday, 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (Yesterday, 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
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#1 User is offline   BradSmith16 Icon

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Posted 09 August 2006 - 08:41 PM

1. Tom Brady
2. Warren Moon
3. Doug Flutie
4. Matt Hasselback
5. Rich Gannon
6. Bart Starr
7. Brad Smith
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Posted 09 August 2006 - 09:04 PM

Guys who have groupies on NYJetsFan.com that wont get off their D!(%

1. Brad Smith
2. Brad Smith
3. Brad Smith
4. Brad Smith
5. Brad Smith





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Posted 09 August 2006 - 09:09 PM

Ok tough guy, you know what the difference between Brad Smith and those QBs?"
Those guys were drafted as QBs!!!!!!!
They came in as QBs, they werent drafted as a WR like Brad Smith.
Brad Smith is going to be a WR. He is a WR and is making alot of plays.
Smith is nowheres near as good as Pennington, Ramsey, Clemens or Bollinger at QB.
You really should just leave this site, you bring nothing to it.
If you havent read it already but this is a Jets fan site, not a Brad Smith site. How about you go and create a Brad Smith fan website and leave us alone.
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Posted 09 August 2006 - 09:13 PM

Look bro im all for supporting yr Fav player but support him at the posistion he PLAYS. all yr whining isnt gunna change any of the coaches minds. he hasnt gotten and snaps at qb and until he does let it go. the only time hes gunna throw the ball is on trick plays so just wait for them and say what an arm he has. until then please just STOP!!! blowup.gif diespam.gif

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Posted 09 August 2006 - 09:28 PM

QUOTE (BradSmith16 @ Aug 9 2006, 10:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
1. Tom Brady
2. Warren Moon
3. Doug Flutie
4. Matt Hasselback
5. Rich Gannon
6. Bart Starr
7. Brad Smith


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Posted 09 August 2006 - 09:30 PM

but obviously not BradSmith 16
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Posted 09 August 2006 - 09:32 PM

QUOTE (BradSmith16 @ Aug 9 2006, 07:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
1. Tom Brady
2. Warren Moon
3. Doug Flutie
4. Matt Hasselback
5. Rich Gannon
6. Bart Starr
7. Brad Smith


the exception is they were all drafted as QBs except for smith and moon. and the only reaosn moon wasn't cause the NFL didn't like black QBs at the time
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Posted 09 August 2006 - 09:38 PM

QUOTE (Jetsfan115 @ Aug 9 2006, 11:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
the exception is they were all drafted as QBs except for smith and moon. and the only reaosn moon wasn't cause the NFL didn't like black QBs at the time


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Posted 09 August 2006 - 10:45 PM

QUOTE (BradSmith16 @ Aug 9 2006, 10:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
1. Tom Brady
2. Warren Moon
3. Doug Flutie
4. Matt Hasselback
5. Rich Gannon
6. Bart Starr
7. Brad Smith


doug flutie wasnt a succesful NFL QB, did good in college and is only loved because of his imfamous hail mary IN COLLEGE! check out this article i wrote after he anounced his retirement about him:

Why Flutie isn’t a Hall of Famer
By Ryan DeOrdio, 5/16/06


At about 10 o’clock last night, after getting home from my Uncle Bob’s wake, I was on the computer checking up on the sports world. I noticed on ESPN.com that it said that Doug Flutie had finally decided to call it a career and would work for ABC and ESPN as an analyst. Right next to the article it asked the question if Flutie belonged in the Hall of Fame. When I saw this first thought was “at the beginning of his career he was good, but after that he didn’t much”. So I decided to do a little investigating and checked up on Flutie’s stats.
I found out the Flutie only played one full season in his career. Some may say this was because at the beginning of his career he was young and unproven, but then why later in his career he didn’t play? If it was of injuries then, I don’t believe a person who is that injury-prone belongs in the Hall. Flutie also had a mediocre QB rating throughout his career. First off, his career QB rating is 76.3, just barely better then Michael Vick’s 75.8, I am not saying Vick is not a good QB, its just that Vick is not much of a passer. The counter-point I have heard from this is that his QB rating was harmed from his later seasons when he was washed up and didn’t play much. The thing is, it had a bit of a effect on his career QB rating but he still was mediocre throughout his career, not only his late career. His highest QB rating of his career was 98.6, the 1987 season. However I shouldn’t even say “season” in Flutie’s case because he played only 1 game that season. Also, the 2001 season, the only full season he played, his QB rating was a mere 72.1, which some debate would still be because of his age, 38. His career completion percentage was 54.7. He had only 86 touchdowns passes during his career. Donovan McNabb, who was more of a scrambler in the beginning of his career, had more touchdown passes in his first 5 out of 7 seasons.
Some also may debate that Flutie didn’t really get to live up to his potential because of his limited playing time. That would be more of a debate as to why he shouldn’t be a hall- of-famer, a player who played only 91 games in his 12-year career. That’s 37 less games then Peyton Manning has played in his 8-year career. Flutie also had only surpassed the 60-completion percentage mark once in his career, in the same 1987 season that he had only played 1 game. The closest he ever came to the mark of a 60-completion percentage mark was in the 2000 season when he played 11 games and had a 57.1 completion percentage for Buffalo. Flutie also never passed for 4,000 yards or more in a single season. He also was 1,477 completions away from Ken Anderson, 20th on the list of total passes completed for a quarterback. He was also 18,474 yards away from Peyton Manning, 20th on the list of total passing yards.
Should Doug Flutie be inducted into the Hall of Fame? If you look at the numbers the answer is obviously no. The fact of the matter is Flutie was too small for the NFL, especially QB, with his 5’10”, 180-pound stature. He played nowhere near the amount of games a hall of fame caliber player should. Skip Bayless has said before that some players that have been questioned to be future hall-of-famers but he believes are not that good deserve to be in the Hall of Very Good. I believe that Doug Flutie does not even deserve to be in the Hall of Very Good, maybe the Hall of Mediocrity, or maybe the Hall of Overrated (much like Brett Farve, however Farve also belongs in the Hall of Fame)
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Posted 10 August 2006 - 12:16 AM

the hall of fame is the pro football hall of fame, not the nfl hall of fame and his best days were when he was playing for the canadian football league. check his stats while playing for the usfl and canadian football league

http://en.wikipedia....reer_Statistics

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Posted 10 August 2006 - 06:48 AM

This has gone to a whole new level of stupidity....It's so stupid, I must close it. My head hurts from reading this. For safety reasons....>CLOSED
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