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MikeGangGree... Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:09 AM) good
MikeGangGree... Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:09 AM) Best day of the week is the day after a Jets Win!
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:12 AM) Rob you think the offense started off ugly? we scored on our first 4 drives, and controlled the ball 80% of the time the first half. We didn't even punt until the 2nd half
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:21 AM) I meant the hits on Fitz at on the first Drive or two with the fumbles and almost fumbles....The Tom Brady rule where balls that used to be fumbles are incomplete. We recovered the ball on all but one but it was ruled incomplete
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:26 AM) The offensive line stepped off after Hughes got hurt for however long he was out. I don't blame J. Marsh for that fumble because that was just a hell of a play. Imo Fitz had a career best game even with only 1 td passing. Never seen him so accurate. So yeah when I meant ugly I meant dline penetration and the 1st two drives ending up in fieldgoals
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:30 AM) But 31 points given up passing by the defense passing was bad. It wasn't just 2 long bombs and that defensive touchdown leading to 21 points. 3q1 against a bad team was terrible for the defense. Without the offense putting up 37 the Jets,would have lost so yeah I consider it an ugly start on both ends
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:32 AM) I'm glad like everyone else that the Jets won. Especially with getting with by the Bills multiple times it was nice revenge.
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:34 AM) Just saying that the Bills look like a bad team this year and the Jets have to face a lot of teams that are probably playoff bound again so yes there is a lot of concern
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 11:39 AM) fitz look good and lets not forget the 50+ yarder to decker that was called back on a BS holding penalty. plus if you rewatch it, the jets d-line was getting held like crazy and never got calls. I seen McLendon, williams, and wilk all complaining about it
azjetfan Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:32 PM) I think the game plan for the D was to keep Taylor in the pocker
azjetfan Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:33 PM) They didn't want him running around when they only rushed 3-4 guts
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:37 PM) bills fired their OC today after the loss yesterday lol
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:38 PM) yeah we didn't really rush, we just tried to keep contain on the outside and collapse the middle
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:38 PM) on the salas TD, one of our LBers went for the sack and broke contain and pryor got away and made the play
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:39 PM) when we did rush which was rare, we had a spy
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 11:11 PM) As far as the Bills firing the oc I'm not sure I agree with it with Watkins having major foot problem with a steel rod in his surgically repaired foot but I dont follow the Bills so cant really say. I do think they need to get rid of Rob Ryan though. He had a decent year with the Browns then was terrible with the Cowboys and Saints. He isn't half the DC that Rex is. I still think Rex can be a good head coach withe the right coaches and roster but Rob Ryan isn't the answer. But if Rex wants to ruin his chance of staying a head coach by keeping his brother on the coaching staff like he ruined his head coaching job keeping Sanchez as a starter then that's his stupidity
ganggreen2003 Icon : (17 September 2016 - 12:20 AM) The A Football Life of Curtis Martin is a MUST WATCH!!!!
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (17 September 2016 - 02:03 PM) They got rid of their OC after their defense was ripped apart
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:03 PM) Well hell that makes even less sense. The defense gets ripped apart so let's get rid of the oc instead of the dc.they didn't have much of a run game but a lot of passes yards. If they wanted to blame anyone for nearly 40 points against them it was their defense. But guess Rex used the ocean as the scale goat instead of his brother
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:04 PM) Oc not ocean. Damn Auto correct on phone
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:04 PM) And scape goatee
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:05 PM) Lol still can't get it right
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:13 PM) Not sure about anyone else but I'm extremely interested in the 49r/ Panther game at 1pm. Just want to see if the 49rs are actually good this year or if the Rams have become one of the worst teams in the league this year
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:16 PM) If the Rams have regressed that much then all the Todd Gurley owners in fantasy will likely have low points from him all year. Might even be worth trying to trade him early if they look just as bad this week before his stock drops
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:26 PM) I drafted him last year and also had David Johnson, Chris Johnson, Roetlesburger, Romo, Palmer, Barnage,, .....my whole team was stacked with starters. Entire team wasc stacked with starters. Even bench. Made tge Superbowl but did have a rough start at behinning of season when Romo and Roethlisberger wentvdown at the start of season also lost amazing starting rb and wr all within the 1st 4 games but worked the waivers really well..shut out until garbage time by a team that was terrible last year
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:28 PM) Last part meant Rams were shut out entire game even in garbage time against 49r backups
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:29 PM) Sorry about typos. Hard to type on small phone screen
MikeGangGree... Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:00 PM) This is why I'm glad Rex is gone. Fire the OC after the D gives up 500 yards??
MikeGangGree... Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:01 PM) UPDATE THE UPDATE!!!!
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:25 PM) Yep Rex isn't a bad coach but he needs to have all player and coach decisions as far as firing and hiring taken out of his hands. His problem is he doesn't know to separate the job from loyalty to players and is unable to let underperforming players go
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:27 PM) He was great as a DC because he wasn't in charge of roster and firing decisions. He will never make it as a good head coach until he can get rid of loyalty and run a team like any boss runs a business.
azjetfan Icon : (17 September 2016 - 07:16 PM) I loved Rex as a person. But he is severely handicapped in his skill set as a HC. He has not adapted and will not adapt. That's why he isn't here and will be fired from Buffalo.
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:05 AM) It's all guessing and I will like likely stick with my two starters that are injured and playing but D.Thomas looks like he is still in a lot of pain and Stewart is still in the locker room getting ankle treatment so both could be on a snap count
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:06 AM) I have good wr's on bench and good rb's on bench but they have bad matchups. Do t trust Diggs against Greenbay or Doug Martin against Arizona both on bench
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:08 AM) If I made changes I have Crabtree for Oakland Aagainst Atlanta and Abdullah for Detroit against 49rs as my two options I would choose if I made any changes
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:10 AM) Actually have it backwards with my running back teams
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:12 AM) Detroit vs Titans who I believe has a legit defense. Panthers have a better team but the ankle for Stewart and both the Titans and 49rs are ranked #1 against the run. Not a believer in the 49rs defensesthough
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:13 AM) Believe the Rams oline just sucks
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:15 AM) Abdullah splits carries but he did get 17 last week and also catches a lot of passes and has a better qb so could exploit the Titans still
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:16 AM) Will most likely do my own thing anyway just looking for input from those that actually study in fantasy if anyone feels like offering their opinions. If not it's cool too. Thanks
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:18 AM) If not for the injuries to the two players I'd keep them in for sure but all it takes for Thomas is a hit to the hip and a tackle by the ankle for Stewart if they aren't on a snap count already or if pain doesn't get to them.
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 12:45 PM) Well looks like leaving in Stewart was,a,bad move in locker room
MikeGangGree... Icon : (18 September 2016 - 04:54 PM) Good news! Dolphins suck
santana Icon : (19 September 2016 - 08:08 AM) Thanks professor
Jetsfan115 Icon : (23 September 2016 - 03:55 PM) updated roster. FB howsare released, TE bowman added to roster
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Posted 08 September 2008 - 05:40 PM

Here is my game analysis:

OFFENSE:

After the first touchdown pass, my brother sent me the following text: "How does it feel to have a real NFL quarterback?"
That statement spoke volumes. It's not just the velocity of the actual throw, but the potential to make that throw that transcends the passing game. Ask yourself this question: Does Thomas Jones gash that defense as effectively as he did if Pennington was under center? The answer is no.

The offensive line played well. They created excellent creases for Jones to run through and provide an excellent seal on his touchdown run. Very impressive. The pass protection may have appeared poor but a closer examinaton (I expect this to be an NFL replay game) revealed that Favre did hold the ball a bit longer than he should have. You could see that he was trying to await someone getting open downfield. The strip sack inside the red zone was a good example.

I was very impressed with the tight end play. Tangini finally sent the white boys back to the truck stop at the Denny's in Iowa(the character players) and brought in some coordination and speed to assist Chris Baker. Nice to see we have NFL quality players at this position once more.

DEFENSE:

I watched that blob Chris Jenkins the whole game. When he was on the field he did his job, clogging that middle. This allowed Harris and Barton to fly in and make tackles. The surge was clearly favoring the D-line, as they were pushing people around out there.

The defensive backs did a good job against pedestrian receivers. Revis dropped an interception but made up for it in the end.


Next week will be an excellent test, even sans Tom Brady. I want to see how our front seven stacks up against an excellent offensive line. Conversely, I want to see us run the ball effectively against NE's front 7. I think we need to temper our optimism with caution. I'm happy with the win, however, it was a rebuilding team with low talent level at the skill positions.

Finally, I want to compliment Chad Pennington. He is a true class act and an inspirational leader. Watching him play that game, even with his deficiencies, makes you wonder how effective he would be in Minnesota within the safety of the dome and no wind.
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Posted 08 September 2008 - 05:43 PM

QUOTE (Camenzind @ Sep 8 2008, 06:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Here is my game analysis:

OFFENSE:

After the first touchdown pass, my brother sent me the following text: "How does it feel to have a real NFL quarterback?"
That statement spoke volumes. It's not just the velocity of the actual throw, but the potential to make that throw that transcends the passing game. Ask yourself this question: Does Thomas Jones gash that defense as effectively as he did if Pennington was under center? The answer is no.

The offensive line played well. They created excellent creases for Jones to run through and provide an excellent seal on his touchdown run. Very impressive. The pass protection may have appeared poor but a closer examinaton (I expect this to be an NFL replay game) revealed that Favre did hold the ball a bit longer than he should have. You could see that he was trying to await someone getting open downfield. The strip sack inside the red zone was a good example.

I was very impressed with the tight end play. Tangini finally sent the white boys back to the truck stop at the Denny's in Iowa(the character players) and brought in some coordination and speed to assist Chris Baker. Nice to see we have NFL quality players at this position once more.

DEFENSE:

I watched that blob Chris Jenkins the whole game. When he was on the field he did his job, clogging that middle. This allowed Harris and Barton to fly in and make tackles. The surge was clearly favoring the D-line, as they were pushing people around out there.

The defensive backs did a good job against pedestrian receivers. Revis dropped an interception but made up for it in the end.
Next week will be an excellent test, even sans Tom Brady. I want to see how our front seven stacks up against an excellent offensive line. Conversely, I want to see us run the ball effectively against NE's front 7. I think we need to temper our optimism with caution. I'm happy with the win, however, it was a rebuilding team with low talent level at the skill positions.

Finally, I want to compliment Chad Pennington. He is a true class act and an inspirational leader. Watching him play that game, even with his deficiencies, makes you wonder how effective he would be in Minnesota within the safety of the dome and no wind.

And by the way, Nugent is gutless mental midget and I've had enough of his BS. I couldn't give a rat's rectum about his thigh bruise. I watched DAvid Akers make kicks on one leg. I no longer care that he was a second round pick. He should be on a short lease. Call Jay Feely NOW.
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Posted 08 September 2008 - 06:33 PM

I agree with a lot of things, though not with Nugent.

But anyways the OL gave up 3 sacks because Favre wasn't calling the right protections, Favre even admitted it. A lot of times guys were coming in free on blitzes, Favre has to call out the protection better next week against a better defense. Also Brandon Moore and Nick Mangold were having a tough time, both should get better by next week. I was actually impressed with Damien Woody with pass protection, watching him he was showing good feet and a big guy that doesn't get knocked over by a DE (Aka Anthony Clement against the Titans, embarressing), he was also doing a good job sealing the edge in run blocking.Very apparent improvement over last year, my only problem was his penalty that cost a 1st down, that made it 3rd and 7, instead of the 3rd and 2 that TJ picked up like 7 yards on. Our TEs are good this year, Bubba Franks gave up a sack to Joey Porter, but besides that our blocking from our TEs are very good. Franks is a strong blocker usually, keller was used at a lot of positions, I'll like to see him get the ball more, but we'll see as Favre gets more comfortable.
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Posted 08 September 2008 - 07:44 PM

QUOTE (Camenzind @ Sep 8 2008, 06:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Here is my game analysis:

OFFENSE:

After the first touchdown pass, my brother sent me the following text: "How does it feel to have a real NFL quarterback?"
That statement spoke volumes. It's not just the velocity of the actual throw, but the potential to make that throw that transcends the passing game. Ask yourself this question: Does Thomas Jones gash that defense as effectively as he did if Pennington was under center? The answer is no.

The offensive line played well. They created excellent creases for Jones to run through and provide an excellent seal on his touchdown run. Very impressive. The pass protection may have appeared poor but a closer examinaton (I expect this to be an NFL replay game) revealed that Favre did hold the ball a bit longer than he should have. You could see that he was trying to await someone getting open downfield. The strip sack inside the red zone was a good example.

I was very impressed with the tight end play. Tangini finally sent the white boys back to the truck stop at the Denny's in Iowa(the character players) and brought in some coordination and speed to assist Chris Baker. Nice to see we have NFL quality players at this position once more.

DEFENSE:

I watched that blob Chris Jenkins the whole game. When he was on the field he did his job, clogging that middle. This allowed Harris and Barton to fly in and make tackles. The surge was clearly favoring the D-line, as they were pushing people around out there.

The defensive backs did a good job against pedestrian receivers. Revis dropped an interception but made up for it in the end.
Next week will be an excellent test, even sans Tom Brady. I want to see how our front seven stacks up against an excellent offensive line. Conversely, I want to see us run the ball effectively against NE's front 7. I think we need to temper our optimism with caution. I'm happy with the win, however, it was a rebuilding team with low talent level at the skill positions.

Finally, I want to compliment Chad Pennington. He is a true class act and an inspirational leader. Watching him play that game, even with his deficiencies, makes you wonder how effective he would be in Minnesota within the safety of the dome and no wind.

Someone tell me if I am wrong on this stat: Chad has Never brought us from behind 8+ points in 4th qtr to a win. I don't think he has. Watching him almost do it to us was gut wrenching yesterday. But what the hell, we won.
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Posted 08 September 2008 - 08:04 PM

You sure could see the creases that Jones will have this year. Seemed for him to get 100 yards last year we would hve to hand him the ball over 35 times. Farve has some to do with this but also having a line is most.
Think we should be able to come out in the second half of games this year and tun out it down teams.
Not having our kicker sure kept this game close and Chad will do good early in the year, probably be different the next time we face them. Brett is still learning the calls for protection.
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