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MikeGangGree... Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:09 AM) good
MikeGangGree... Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:09 AM) Best day of the week is the day after a Jets Win!
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:12 AM) Rob you think the offense started off ugly? we scored on our first 4 drives, and controlled the ball 80% of the time the first half. We didn't even punt until the 2nd half
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:21 AM) I meant the hits on Fitz at on the first Drive or two with the fumbles and almost fumbles....The Tom Brady rule where balls that used to be fumbles are incomplete. We recovered the ball on all but one but it was ruled incomplete
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:26 AM) The offensive line stepped off after Hughes got hurt for however long he was out. I don't blame J. Marsh for that fumble because that was just a hell of a play. Imo Fitz had a career best game even with only 1 td passing. Never seen him so accurate. So yeah when I meant ugly I meant dline penetration and the 1st two drives ending up in fieldgoals
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:30 AM) But 31 points given up passing by the defense passing was bad. It wasn't just 2 long bombs and that defensive touchdown leading to 21 points. 3q1 against a bad team was terrible for the defense. Without the offense putting up 37 the Jets,would have lost so yeah I consider it an ugly start on both ends
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:32 AM) I'm glad like everyone else that the Jets won. Especially with getting with by the Bills multiple times it was nice revenge.
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:34 AM) Just saying that the Bills look like a bad team this year and the Jets have to face a lot of teams that are probably playoff bound again so yes there is a lot of concern
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 11:39 AM) fitz look good and lets not forget the 50+ yarder to decker that was called back on a BS holding penalty. plus if you rewatch it, the jets d-line was getting held like crazy and never got calls. I seen McLendon, williams, and wilk all complaining about it
azjetfan Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:32 PM) I think the game plan for the D was to keep Taylor in the pocker
azjetfan Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:33 PM) They didn't want him running around when they only rushed 3-4 guts
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:37 PM) bills fired their OC today after the loss yesterday lol
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:38 PM) yeah we didn't really rush, we just tried to keep contain on the outside and collapse the middle
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:38 PM) on the salas TD, one of our LBers went for the sack and broke contain and pryor got away and made the play
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:39 PM) when we did rush which was rare, we had a spy
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 11:11 PM) As far as the Bills firing the oc I'm not sure I agree with it with Watkins having major foot problem with a steel rod in his surgically repaired foot but I dont follow the Bills so cant really say. I do think they need to get rid of Rob Ryan though. He had a decent year with the Browns then was terrible with the Cowboys and Saints. He isn't half the DC that Rex is. I still think Rex can be a good head coach withe the right coaches and roster but Rob Ryan isn't the answer. But if Rex wants to ruin his chance of staying a head coach by keeping his brother on the coaching staff like he ruined his head coaching job keeping Sanchez as a starter then that's his stupidity
ganggreen2003 Icon : (17 September 2016 - 12:20 AM) The A Football Life of Curtis Martin is a MUST WATCH!!!!
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (17 September 2016 - 02:03 PM) They got rid of their OC after their defense was ripped apart
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:03 PM) Well hell that makes even less sense. The defense gets ripped apart so let's get rid of the oc instead of the dc.they didn't have much of a run game but a lot of passes yards. If they wanted to blame anyone for nearly 40 points against them it was their defense. But guess Rex used the ocean as the scale goat instead of his brother
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:04 PM) Oc not ocean. Damn Auto correct on phone
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:04 PM) And scape goatee
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:05 PM) Lol still can't get it right
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:13 PM) Not sure about anyone else but I'm extremely interested in the 49r/ Panther game at 1pm. Just want to see if the 49rs are actually good this year or if the Rams have become one of the worst teams in the league this year
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:16 PM) If the Rams have regressed that much then all the Todd Gurley owners in fantasy will likely have low points from him all year. Might even be worth trying to trade him early if they look just as bad this week before his stock drops
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:26 PM) I drafted him last year and also had David Johnson, Chris Johnson, Roetlesburger, Romo, Palmer, Barnage,, .....my whole team was stacked with starters. Entire team wasc stacked with starters. Even bench. Made tge Superbowl but did have a rough start at behinning of season when Romo and Roethlisberger wentvdown at the start of season also lost amazing starting rb and wr all within the 1st 4 games but worked the waivers really well..shut out until garbage time by a team that was terrible last year
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:28 PM) Last part meant Rams were shut out entire game even in garbage time against 49r backups
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:29 PM) Sorry about typos. Hard to type on small phone screen
MikeGangGree... Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:00 PM) This is why I'm glad Rex is gone. Fire the OC after the D gives up 500 yards??
MikeGangGree... Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:01 PM) UPDATE THE UPDATE!!!!
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:25 PM) Yep Rex isn't a bad coach but he needs to have all player and coach decisions as far as firing and hiring taken out of his hands. His problem is he doesn't know to separate the job from loyalty to players and is unable to let underperforming players go
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:27 PM) He was great as a DC because he wasn't in charge of roster and firing decisions. He will never make it as a good head coach until he can get rid of loyalty and run a team like any boss runs a business.
azjetfan Icon : (17 September 2016 - 07:16 PM) I loved Rex as a person. But he is severely handicapped in his skill set as a HC. He has not adapted and will not adapt. That's why he isn't here and will be fired from Buffalo.
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:05 AM) It's all guessing and I will like likely stick with my two starters that are injured and playing but D.Thomas looks like he is still in a lot of pain and Stewart is still in the locker room getting ankle treatment so both could be on a snap count
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:06 AM) I have good wr's on bench and good rb's on bench but they have bad matchups. Do t trust Diggs against Greenbay or Doug Martin against Arizona both on bench
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:08 AM) If I made changes I have Crabtree for Oakland Aagainst Atlanta and Abdullah for Detroit against 49rs as my two options I would choose if I made any changes
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:10 AM) Actually have it backwards with my running back teams
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:12 AM) Detroit vs Titans who I believe has a legit defense. Panthers have a better team but the ankle for Stewart and both the Titans and 49rs are ranked #1 against the run. Not a believer in the 49rs defensesthough
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:13 AM) Believe the Rams oline just sucks
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:15 AM) Abdullah splits carries but he did get 17 last week and also catches a lot of passes and has a better qb so could exploit the Titans still
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:16 AM) Will most likely do my own thing anyway just looking for input from those that actually study in fantasy if anyone feels like offering their opinions. If not it's cool too. Thanks
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:18 AM) If not for the injuries to the two players I'd keep them in for sure but all it takes for Thomas is a hit to the hip and a tackle by the ankle for Stewart if they aren't on a snap count already or if pain doesn't get to them.
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 12:45 PM) Well looks like leaving in Stewart was,a,bad move in locker room
MikeGangGree... Icon : (18 September 2016 - 04:54 PM) Good news! Dolphins suck
santana Icon : (19 September 2016 - 08:08 AM) Thanks professor
Jetsfan115 Icon : (23 September 2016 - 03:55 PM) updated roster. FB howsare released, TE bowman added to roster
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What We Can Learn From 1995 & 1996! Kotite shouldered all the blame!

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Posted 02 December 2005 - 05:49 PM

Rich Kotite had a 11-5 record in 1991. He also had a 10-6 record in 1992 and an 8-8 record in 1993. After a 7-9 season in 1994, he was fired by the Philadelphia Eagles.

He was hired by the Jets in 1995 (who had a record of 4-12 in 1992, 8-8 in 1993 and 6-10 in 1994). This team was so bad that they had not had a winning season since 1987.

The 1995 draft turned out to be pivotal in Jets history as they had 2 number one picks and instead of drafting a well known defensive tackle named Warren Sapp They chose Kyle Brady. Jets fans were booing all over the world. Rich Haley took over duties of running and organizing the draft after the late general manager Rich Steinberg was diagnosed with stomach cancer in December of 1994. Haley joined the Jets in 1991 as the team director of player personnel and oversaw the Jets' scouts and the evaluation of collegiate player personnel.

The 1995 New York Jets Draft:

1 Kyle Brady Penn State TE
1 Hugh Douglas Central State (OH) DE
3 Matt O'Dwyer Northwestern G
4 Melvin Hayes Mississippi State T
4 Tyrone Davis Virginia WR
5 Carl Greenwood UCLA DB
6 Eddie Mason North Carolina LB
7 Curtis Ceaser Grambling WR

The Jets continued to be active in the free agent market, signing seven unrestricted free agents: QB Bubby Brister, RB-KR Dexter Carter, S Gary Jones and Todd Scott, DT-DE Erik Howard and Matt Brock and CB Otis Smith

The 1996 New York Jets Draft

1 Johnson, Keyshawn WR USC
2 Van Byke, Alex WR Nevada
3 Mickens, Ray DB Texas A&M
4 Choice to Tampa Bay - -
5 Coleman, Marcus DB Texas Tech
6 Hunter, Hugh DE Hampton
7 Hayes, Chris DB Washington State

in 1996, T David Williams was the first player to sign with the Jets as a FA, leading a long line of players that included T John Elliott, QB's Neil O'Donnell and Frank Reich and WR Jeff Graham. (Feb. 15).

Sadly Steinberg died September 1995 prior to the start of the season and the Jets would go on to finish 3-13 behind Bubby Brister and Boomer Esiason. WR's were Wayne Chrebet and Charles Wilson and Ryan Yarborough.

In 1996 the Jets would have their worst season finishing at 1-15. Neil O'Donnell, Frank Reich and Gelnn Foley shared QB duties. Wayne Chrebet, Jeff Graham and Rookie Keyshawn Johnson were the WR's. QB Neil O'Donnell suffered a shoulder injury in game six vs. Oakland and would miss six games due to the injury. He was scheduled to return to action in game 13 vs. Houston, but suffered a torn calf muscle in pregame warmups, sidelining him for the remainder of the season.

And so it goes Rich Kotite having been proclaimed worst coach in Jets History.

Note: I cannot even remember players that were free agent pickups and drafted and most of the starters. Both drafts were conducted by Rich Haley and were the poorest drafts in recent memory. The Jets has 3 coaches in the last 4 years prior to the 1996 season (Bruce Coslet Pete Carroll and Rich Kotite) and all were below .500.

We can learn that if you do not draft well and have an unstable team roster situation, your teams can suffer. In the end, it cost Kotite his career and reputation. Those 2 years defined him as a head coach. Its a shame that he left quietly and took all the blame. I respect him for not placing blame on Haley's drafts and poor personnel selection. He took it like a man! I sure as hell wouldn't!
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Posted 02 December 2005 - 06:02 PM

I'd hate to tell you, but with all the bullshit you have said earlier, well, no one gives a flying *beep* of what you say now, so why don't you go to that better jets fan site.
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Posted 02 December 2005 - 06:09 PM

QUOTE (JCBizkit87 @ Dec 2 2005, 06:37 PM)
I'd hate to tell you, but with all the bullshit you have said earlier, well, no one gives a flying *beep* of what you say now, so why don't you go to that better jets fan site.



Mr. Bizkit 87,


I am glad you finally found the time to stop raping your little sister and were able to respond to me in such a fashion.
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Posted 02 December 2005 - 06:26 PM

QUOTE (richkotite2006 @ Dec 2 2005, 06:44 PM)
Mr. Bizkit 87,
I am glad you finally found the time to stop raping your little sister and were able to respond to me in such a fashion.



WOW... that was uncalled for dude. Apologize immediately. That was not cool, No class at all.

You make me sick

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Posted 02 December 2005 - 06:29 PM

QUOTE (richkotite2006 @ Dec 2 2005, 05:44 PM)
Mr. Bizkit 87,
I am glad you finally found the time to stop raping your little sister and were able to respond to me in such a fashion.





OHHH, this explains why your posts alternation from Positive to Negetive


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Posted 02 December 2005 - 07:18 PM

QUOTE (sdubb6 @ Dec 2 2005, 07:01 PM)
WOW... that was uncalled for dude. Apologize immediately. That was not cool, No class at all.

You make me sick




Class. When you start a fight be prepared for what comes next! Bizkit had no right hopping into my thread and calling it bullshit. An Insult is an insult. There are no varying degrees. I am assuming you want to be the peacemaker. We'll go make peace elsewhere! Your opinions do not matter to me! This is between he and I shitweed! beach.gif
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Posted 02 December 2005 - 07:55 PM

QUOTE (richkotite2006 @ Dec 3 2005, 12:53 AM)
Class.    When you start a fight be prepared for what comes next!  Bizkit had no right hopping into my thread and calling it bullshit.  An Insult is an insult.  There are no varying degrees. I am assuming you want to be the peacemaker.  We'll go make peace elsewhere!    Your opinions do not matter to me!  This is between he and I shitweed! beach.gif


Dude, you just do not get it, do you? You said you "found" a "better" jets fan site then this, and yet you still happen to come and post here? WHY? I just really want to know. You know your hated on this site, so why not just leave.

I actually did have a right you insult you, because everyone happens to be insulting you here, if you have not noticed yet.

So dude, just shut up, or get the hell out of here.
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Posted 02 December 2005 - 08:28 PM

Well... there are different levels and degree's of an insult. He said it was bullshit and you refer to ancestery and molestation as a comeback. You my friend are a sick demented lilttle man.
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Posted 02 December 2005 - 08:38 PM

QUOTE (sdubb6 @ Dec 2 2005, 09:03 PM)
Well... there are different levels and degree's of an insult. He said it was bullshit and you refer to ancestery and molestation as a comeback. You my friend are a sick demented lilttle man.



Thank You! crazy.gif crazy.gif crazy.gif crazy.gif
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Posted 02 December 2005 - 08:46 PM

QUOTE (richkotite2006 @ Dec 3 2005, 02:13 AM)
Thank You! crazy.gif  crazy.gif  crazy.gif  crazy.gif


Why not do us all a favor, and leave this website, it would be for the best for both the site, and yourself.
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Posted 02 December 2005 - 08:54 PM

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GO HOME! noone likes you your a discrace to all the Jets fans on this board.
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Posted 02 December 2005 - 08:59 PM

QUOTE (richkotite2006 @ Dec 2 2005, 09:13 PM)
Thank You! crazy.gif  crazy.gif  crazy.gif  crazy.gif



Mo...les..ta..tion. Did you read that right?.. and you are finding that humorus?. Your a peice of shit. Your computer is probably filled with child porn to isn't?. O.K I'm out of this conversation becasue i am literally starting to feel ill and your lucky there is an internet becasue if I saw you out at a bar or on the street you would be drinking and eating threw a straw after I knocked your teeth down your throat.
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Posted 03 December 2005 - 12:42 AM

Bizkit deserves some thrashing on this board since he insults everyone he disagrees with, but that was uncalled for. Topic Done.
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