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santana Icon : (16 August 2014 - 11:55 PM) http://gfycat.com/Mi...idHookersealion
santana Icon : (16 August 2014 - 11:55 PM) Gotta fix that
azjetfan Icon : (17 August 2014 - 01:35 PM) Is anyone else as concerned as I am about the secondary?
azjetfan Icon : (17 August 2014 - 01:36 PM) I know it's preseason and all but even with Milliner in on the first game we gave up a TD on the first drive to the Colts
azjetfan Icon : (17 August 2014 - 01:37 PM) Patterson looked like me out there and Wilson got torched last night
Smedsthejet Icon : (17 August 2014 - 02:26 PM) Concerned about the right side of the OLine too - too many penalties and Giacomini wasn't that much better than against the Colts when he was poor
SackExchange71 Icon : (17 August 2014 - 02:31 PM) Imo i still think howard is better then giacomini..Wish they never let him walk.Giacomini had alot of flags in seattle also
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 09:33 AM) Howard recieved a huge contract in Oakland. Way over his actual value.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 10:08 AM) So did we make a trade for a CB yet?
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (18 August 2014 - 03:51 PM) Milliner did suffer a high ankle sprain, that sucks. could linger all year
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (18 August 2014 - 03:52 PM) I think Patterson sucked vs the Colts because he was injured, which he always is.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 06:49 PM) As much as people criticized Tannanbaum for spending too much. It's starting to look like Idzik is going to be too cheap.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 06:52 PM) You get what you pay for and when you let quality players go because you don't want to pay them, this is what happens. You're left with scrub players.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 07:55 PM) I'm still on board with the Idzik plan. Even with Revis and Revis we still are not going to the SB this year. But the down time sucks. If Milliner comes back healthy by week 3 or so we should be fine.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 08:18 PM) Regardless of our SB chances this year or next year. If Idzik keeps acting like a cheapskate and continues to let quality players go, we won't have to worry about winning much of anything this decade.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 09:36 PM) He wants to build through the draft. Not blow the bank on FA. I get what your saying but there is a balance and right now we are not one or two pieces away.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 11:00 PM) It's not about being one or two pieces away. It's about keeping the good pieces you have and building upon that.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 11:04 PM) But there is no sense in trying to build through the draft if he's only going to end up letting the good players he picks up go in FA after a few years. All because he wants to do things on the cheap.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:02 AM) FIRE IDZIK
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:33 AM) out side of Revis who left we should have kept?
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:34 AM) The Revis deal sucks but $16 million was too much for a CB and once he was gone he was not coming back.
Mr_Jet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 11:00 AM) Matt Slauson
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 01:00 PM) Eh. I think with our current cap situation we will be able to retain guys like Wilkerson and whomever we want to keep. We are in a good position right now.
Mr_Jet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 01:49 PM) Time will tell.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 02:00 PM) landed revis abck. got DRC, nope we take patterson who got owned and always hurt. milner always hurt. 3rd round CB done for season. were gonna get passed on all day
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 02:44 PM) Yea the DRC bit makes me iffy
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 03:35 PM) better then patterson
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 05:45 PM) No I mean the fact that he whiffed on him.
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 05:46 PM) I'm not saying Idzik is perfect. I just like the direction we are heading. It's going to take some patience.
RetireChrebet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:27 PM) I like how our lack of secondary is the hot topic right now. The bigger issue is we still will not be able to throw the ball. We are not going to do much of anything regardless until we get a QB. Sorry for being so negative just my honest opinion.
RetireChrebet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:29 PM) With that said I think our running game with CJ and Powell will be top 10 or somewhere around there
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:35 PM) i have faith that if geno messes up that vick can come in and do well. but i have 0 faith in our secondary right now which has been our strong point for the past 4 years or so
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:35 PM) I agree 115. but the one thing is Rex has done some good things in the past with shitty DBs and still had a solid D going back to his years in BAL
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31 Fabian Washington in 2008
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azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:26 PM) I assume we will pick up a guy after the cuts happen.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 10:14 PM) we'll see but I think we see better QB play than we have in a while.
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The Love Affair With The White Tight End

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Posted 14 November 2005 - 11:09 AM

In the midst of a horrible season, it is common for the seasoned Jet follower to lash out at frustrating idiosyncrasies of the organization that, normally would be tolerated during a competitive season, but now becomes a microcosm of the ineptitude and stubbornly arrogant personnel moves of the organization.

Somebody please explain to me this inherited, twisted love affair with the big, uncoordinated, SLOW, lumbering WHITE TIGHT END? From Kyle Brady to the recent aqcuisition of Doug Jolley, the Jets continue to waste time, money and draft picks on a position and player that quite frankly, does not warrant it.

I know that a couple of years ago, Jolley had a couple of good games against the Jets. Foolishly, like other idiotic organizations (see the Bruce Coslet led Bengals spending their money on the flat footed Neil O'Donnell years ago), the Jets got excited over a player who played well against THEM, not the rest of the league.

See, you want to believe that the people in charge of the team you support know more than you, via football savvy, experience, insider's track, etc. Then you watch these moves they make and you become enraged! These are not isolated incidents, but a culmination of blunders made year after year regardless of who is charge - we got a three year reprieve when Parcells was running the show. (he did draft Becht though - you cannot bat a thousand!)

Now of course, not everyone will agree with the decisions made by the organization. And sometimes, the decisions turn out to be the right ones. I am then man enough to admit that I was wrong and am happy I was! But when certain situations are so obvious, and when my friends call me after the Jolley trade to taunt me, BECAUSE they already know how stupid a move it was, and they don't even follow the Jets, it becomes difficult to digest!

Now the Jets would fire back with these wonderful physical attributes of size, height, speed, etc. etc. Everyone knows what they cannot say: THE WHITE TIGHT END will ALWAYS be average. Yes, there are a FEW, I mean FEW exceptions i.e. Jeremy Shockey. But, if you want a star, a go to guy, then you want someone who can effectively split the SEAM ala Marcus Pollard.

If you want a good blocker, then stick another lineman out there in running situations and call him a tight end! Don't waste picks on a player who is destined to fail because of his skin color!
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Posted 14 November 2005 - 11:25 AM

This has to be the most rasist shi-t I have ever heard. Why don't we just say a black man can't be a good QB because he is to stupid. By the way the best tight ends in the game right now Shocky - white, Gonzalaz(granted having a bad year)- Hispanic, and Gates- black.

You are a f-in ignorant bastard to think that just cause a person is black they are better at a position.
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Posted 14 November 2005 - 11:39 AM

plus heap and witten are white and are both two of the best TE's in the NFL. And if you didnt notice are starting TE this year was Chris Baker, a black man.
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Posted 14 November 2005 - 11:45 AM

Any good points you could have made were lost as soon as you made it a black/white issue. That is ridiculous. What the hell does the color have to do with it? Wake up! I'm locking this idiotic thread before it gets out of control. If you want to say Jolley was a wasted pick, I'll be the first to agree with you, but the fact that he's white has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH IT.
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