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ROBJETS Icon : (15 April 2015 - 08:36 PM) If someone calls me an idiot or moron or stupid over a football debate it doesn't bother me in the slightest. But when you make things personal like with racist things or family crap its a whole different level
azjetfan Icon : (15 April 2015 - 08:36 PM) I felt my FLiHi remark was as "harmless" as you did calling another person a Moron and stupid because they didn't agree with your opinion
ROBJETS Icon : (15 April 2015 - 08:38 PM) my friends and I call each other morons and stupid an laugh at each other when we do something stupid like when we are drinking. It means nothing. and we laugh about it because its harmless. I'm trying to tell you this is a big difference between what you say to people and what others do.
ROBJETS Icon : (15 April 2015 - 08:40 PM) Heck 115 rags me a lot and it doesnt bother me in the least. i rag him too. Same with GG2003 and SHJ. There is a difference between friendly banter and disagreements and crossing the line
azjetfan Icon : (15 April 2015 - 08:44 PM) So your opinion of the line is right and my opinion is wrong? Is that what your saying? I don't know you. I'm not a drinking buddy of yours. Maybe you should learn some social tact.
ROBJETS Icon : (15 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) you felt it was harmless but you were the only one. Everyone else understood why I got was extremely offended about it the first time because you cross the line with what you say to people. Apparently you realized it enough to send me a long pm apologizing and having communication problems that get you in trouble sometimes. But now you cant understand the difference?
azjetfan Icon : (15 April 2015 - 08:48 PM) I understand why. What I'm saying is if you take a jab people will jab back. Have you heard that saying " dont throw rocks when you live in a glass house?"
ROBJETS Icon : (15 April 2015 - 08:49 PM) The way you understand things if I call you an idiot about not wanting to trade for a high end qb its no different from me disrespecting your family. Thats what Im getting from you. So the way you see things everything is equally personal
azjetfan Icon : (15 April 2015 - 08:50 PM) From complete strangers on an Internet forum? Yes. Man up
azjetfan Icon : (15 April 2015 - 08:51 PM) Nod the debate was if he is a "high end" player. I thought he was well above average but not worth a 6th overall pick
ROBJETS Icon : (15 April 2015 - 08:55 PM) Not worth my time to even acknowledge anymore. Just going to ignore you like I do Mr. Jet. You have a lot of mental growing up to do.
azjetfan Icon : (15 April 2015 - 08:57 PM) That's funny coming from a guy who went butt f*** crazy a couple hours ago
azjetfan Icon : (15 April 2015 - 08:57 PM) Meanwhile you can't seem to respect that others opinions are different than yours
azjetfan Icon : (15 April 2015 - 08:59 PM) You are emotionally weak. You went through some serious shit growing up and you can't adjust. You take it out on your keyboard.
azjetfan Icon : (15 April 2015 - 09:00 PM) When someone challenges your immaturity you have a complete crazy freak out and act like a girl on her first period
azjetfan Icon : (15 April 2015 - 09:00 PM) Hence the "go wipe your pussy and man up comment
Mr_Jet Icon : (15 April 2015 - 10:16 PM) Please Rob, leave my name out of your little bitchfest.
ROBJETS Icon : (15 April 2015 - 11:46 PM) My bad. You have been respecting my request to you I had a while backI made to you by us not commenting to each other to keep peace between us. I was totally in the wrong for bringing your name up at all and into an argument with member that has issues. I got furious furious with a child. I should've just ignored him like I do the other immature kids on some game forums and sites I belong to. Wont happen again. My apologies for bringing your name into it Mr. Jet.
azjetfan Icon : (16 April 2015 - 07:04 AM) Dude.... Get back on your meds.
blk_orion Icon : (16 April 2015 - 07:47 AM) WTF? Really???
blk_orion Icon : (16 April 2015 - 07:48 AM) Now back to our regular scheduled program......
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (16 April 2015 - 08:08 AM) Lol that escalated quickly
azjetfan Icon : (16 April 2015 - 10:24 AM) Rex is chirping again.
azjetfan Icon : (16 April 2015 - 10:26 AM) He said he is going to try and kick the Shit out of the Jets
azjetfan Icon : (16 April 2015 - 10:26 AM) http://sports.yahoo....l8xBHNlYwNzcg--
azjetfan Icon : (16 April 2015 - 10:26 AM) I still like the guy. He's entertaining
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 April 2015 - 01:25 PM) i miss rex. love his demeanor
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 April 2015 - 01:26 PM) i'd be happy if he kicks the shit out of miami and NE every year
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (16 April 2015 - 09:56 PM) I
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (16 April 2015 - 09:56 PM) I'm excited for the new coaching staff
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (16 April 2015 - 09:56 PM) Rex wsa fun, but he was too much with the defense instead of the entire football team
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (16 April 2015 - 09:57 PM) also he didn't always hold players accountable. I think Bowles will make the team more disciplined.
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 02:50 AM) I don't have any faith in bowles
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 08:15 AM) “San Diego Chargers will ultimately make a deal with the Tennessee Titans for the number two overall pick. As part of that trade, the Chargers will send the number 17 overall pick and Philip Rivers, just as a start, for the number two pick.”
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 08:15 AM) Damn... Who called it? This guy.
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 08:16 AM) http://national.sunt...s-mariota-trade
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 10:13 AM) So we would now lose out on maroita and rivers
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 10:13 AM) Ain't that super
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 01:39 PM) do we make a trade for AP?
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 02:41 PM) I believe the rivers stuff is all speculation
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 03:38 PM) So a top ten qb and the 17th pick for the 2nd overall as a start? Makes sense
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 03:39 PM) So Many smokescreens this time of year
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 04:08 PM) only 2 more weeks before we find out. draft day will be exciting
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 04:09 PM) my money is we'll take a pass rushing OLB
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 08:08 PM) Yup, unless they trade up.
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#21 User is offline   ellisjersey92 Icon

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Posted 15 January 2007 - 08:37 PM

QUOTE (ellisjersey92 @ Jan 15 2007, 08:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i haven't heard of the last two guys but i like their size. bringing in guys that are robertson's size doesn't really make any sense

yes but i still don't over look size. as we saw towards the end of the season with robertson, technique can be taught and it will help greatly but it only goes so far. once the technique is down, the only thing thats going to stop a center and guard from moving the nose is 330 pounds of bulk and power. i dont know this guys build but if he can and is willing to put on the weight then LETS DO IT!!!! NT is our most pressing need this offseason.

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Posted 15 January 2007 - 09:42 PM

Whats Tui's measurables?
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Posted 15 January 2007 - 10:07 PM

QUOTE (ellisjersey92 @ Jan 15 2007, 06:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
when robertson was drafted he was billed as the next warren sapp. now he never lived up to that when we were running the 4-3 but now that hes a nose in the 3-4 he has no shot at pass rushing. his size and skill set really play towards a 3-4 end and im really excited to see what he can do there. if we found a big body in the middle and with ellis and robertson at end, i believe we'd have one of the better defensive lines in the league and that will greatly help our linebackers



he was excelling and was considered a top under tackle which is what warren sapp is, the year they played the chargers in the playoffs.......the next season teams collapsed on him because we lost fergeson and played a bunch of guys who dont belong in the league, he was also injured......but your right he would be a fine DE in 3-4 sort of like how seymour was moved from DT to DE in 3-4 and has had great success
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Posted 15 January 2007 - 10:12 PM

QUOTE (S-Dubb @ Jan 15 2007, 10:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Whats Tui's measurables?


He's 350 pounds...but doesn't seem to be on the team anymore...or in football for that matter...
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Posted 15 January 2007 - 10:26 PM

Yeah we definitely need some fat boys to solidfy the run defense. We need a big,fat,sloppy Pat Williams type of NT. We also need a threat at OLB that the defense will have to account for every play. (I.E. Shawne Merriman?) If we gonna run the 3-4 then we need fat boys up front to keep blockers off Vilma. Our OLB's are serviceable but not protoype 3-4 LB's. As far as the secondary...I think they are just fine. A blistering pass rush out of the 3-4 will make any secondary look good.
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Posted 15 January 2007 - 11:19 PM

"As is the case with Moses and Adams at defensive end, there is little doubt that Marcus Thomas (Florida) and Quinn Pitkock (Ohio State) are the premier senior defensive tackle prospects so far. Ironically, Thomas and Pitkock share very few similarities in terms of style of play. Thomas is a disruptive force with 18 tackles-for-loss the past two seasons, while Pitkock is valued more for his ability to occupy blockers and free up linebackers to make the big play. Pitkock is more consistent at this point but Thomas has greater upside."


6'3" 295 and a artical on espn says hes crazy
now this is on my wish list, looks like a 2nd or 3rd round guy.
btw that is not how you spell his name, it is with a C but you can not write that on here.
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Posted 15 January 2007 - 11:34 PM

QUOTE (CaptainJet @ Jan 15 2007, 11:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah we definitely need some fat boys to solidfy the run defense. We need a big,fat,sloppy Pat Williams type of NT. We also need a threat at OLB that the defense will have to account for every play. (I.E. Shawne Merriman?) If we gonna run the 3-4 then we need fat boys up front to keep blockers off Vilma. Our OLB's are serviceable but not protoype 3-4 LB's. As far as the secondary...I think they are just fine. A blistering pass rush out of the 3-4 will make any secondary look good.


Remember this was B.Thomas first real year and at a new position. He'll be a beast next season. Coming off a 8 sack year this year. Keep Hobson but don't resign and get another OLB from someplace
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Posted 16 January 2007 - 10:48 AM

QUOTE (HurricaneJet32 @ Jan 16 2007, 03:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
He's 350 pounds...but doesn't seem to be on the team anymore...or in football for that matter...


Didn't he get put on IR?
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Posted 16 January 2007 - 02:14 PM

QUOTE (Smedsthejet @ Jan 16 2007, 11:23 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Didn't he get put on IR?

Yea he did, he is just not listed with the team because he was on a practice squad type of deal, he is on our team though in some way or another, you will see his name pop up when mini camp starts.

QUOTE (S-Dubb @ Jan 16 2007, 12:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Remember this was B.Thomas first real year and at a new position. He'll be a beast next season. Coming off a 8 sack year this year. Keep Hobson but don't resign and get another OLB from someplace

Yea Bryan Thomas became one of the better 3-4 OLBs in the league. He is basically shut down on his side, he hits people in the backfield and blows plays up. He will only get better with experience. I dont think getting 10+ sacks this year is out of the question for Thomas.

QUOTE (mangold107 @ Jan 15 2007, 11:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
"As is the case with Moses and Adams at defensive end, there is little doubt that Marcus Thomas (Florida) and Quinn Pitkock (Ohio State) are the premier senior defensive tackle prospects so far. Ironically, Thomas and Pitkock share very few similarities in terms of style of play. Thomas is a disruptive force with 18 tackles-for-loss the past two seasons, while Pitkock is valued more for his ability to occupy blockers and free up linebackers to make the big play. Pitkock is more consistent at this point but Thomas has greater upside."
6'3" 295 and a artical on espn says hes crazy
now this is on my wish list, looks like a 2nd or 3rd round guy.
btw that is not how you spell his name, it is with a C but you can not write that on here.

Yea Pitkock would be good for us, I see him as a DE for the 3-4, he would fit nicely. It depends though, I really cant wait to see what FAs we pick up, this year is way less predictable on what player we will get with our 1st because we really dont have 1 major need. Pitkock is a 1st rounder though, atleast from where it stands right now, I would like to get Okoye if hes there, he is a really nice NT prospect who has tons of potiential and room to grow. Only 19 years old right now, was a 16 year old freshman. crazy.gif Thats insane!!!
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Posted 16 January 2007 - 04:16 PM

QUOTE (Jetsfan0099 @ Jan 16 2007, 02:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yea he did, he is just not listed with the team because he was on a practice squad type of deal, he is on our team though in some way or another, you will see his name pop up when mini camp starts.


I don't know man...Tui might be on the team in any fashion anymore. Like I said...you can't find him on any roster list on newyorkjets.com. Whether it be the IR list...the Practice Squad List...anything.

And he isn't listed on NFL.com...
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Posted 16 January 2007 - 07:09 PM

QUOTE (HurricaneJet32 @ Jan 16 2007, 04:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't know man...Tui might be on the team in any fashion anymore. Like I said...you can't find him on any roster list on newyorkjets.com. Whether it be the IR list...the Practice Squad List...anything.

And he isn't listed on NFL.com...


Well I decide to look up some research on what happened to Tui and according to baamf of theganggreen.com remebers reading (according to) Jets Confidential, that the team came to an injury settlement with Tui Alailefaleula and then released him.

The post was in November..

http://forums.thegan...t=Alailefaleula
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Posted 16 January 2007 - 07:45 PM

QUOTE (smallguy @ Jan 16 2007, 07:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well I decide to look up some research on what happened to Tui and according to baamf of theganggreen.com remebers reading (according to) Jets Confidential, that the team came to an injury settlement with Tui Alailefaleula and then released him.

The post was in November..

http://forums.thegan...t=Alailefaleula


Nice work...thanks for clearing that up...I'm a little too lazy for that. Haha...but I guess we can stop hoping Tui comes back. It sucks...because there really aren't any real good NT prospects in the draft or any guy's coming out in free agency. I suppose it's up to D Rob and Pouha now...
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