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NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) Rivers is likely going to Tennessee. Would LOVE to have him here but we likely won't make the trade. I'd easily give this year and next year
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) 's first rounder for him
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 11:03 AM) IMO that's a steep price. I would swap this years first and a conditional 1st next year. Assuming we make the AFC Championship. That would be a 28-32nd pick. Otherwise a second.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:07 PM) Yes 2 1st is a lot
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:10 PM) draft is next week, pumped
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:02 PM) What are thoughts on getting a RB in round 1? McShay's newest mock has us taking Gurley at 6. I don't think we should take him that high, but if we trade down and he's available I'd love to snag him, ACL and all. He's got an unreal skill set that, once healthy, will translate readily to the NFL. We're not getting a QB this year without paying a king's ransom, and unless we pay a ransom for a top guy I say ignore QB. I don't want us to take a Hundley or Petty type in the 2nd or 3rd round when we need other pieces (edge rush, OL)
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
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.@LanceZierlein says on http://sports790.com that Shane Ray will need surgery on foot, 5 months recovery. "Could drop out of first"
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
MikeGangGree... Icon : (24 April 2015 - 09:40 PM) TEH RANGERS
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Jetsman05 Icon : (Today, 06:59 AM) If we don't get Mariota, we should be looking at Schreff or trading down, IMO.
Jetsman05 Icon : (Today, 06:59 AM) A lot of good edge rushers in this draft... I wouldn't want to take Dupree that high.
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Overpaid Chrebet (flashlight) Finally Retires!! Thank God!

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Posted 03 June 2006 - 02:33 PM

QUOTE (JCBizkit87 @ Jun 3 2006, 04:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
No, genious. Ban him for trying to create a fiasco on the message board, because he knew if he posted this he would get cursed at.


plus this is like the 6th or 7th time fat man has done this start shit on the bored.he should be banned for pissing members off all the time
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Posted 03 June 2006 - 02:35 PM

QUOTE (MikeGangGreenFan2 @ Jun 3 2006, 08:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
plus this is like the 6th or 7th time fat man has done this start shit on the bored.he should be banned for pissing members off all the time


Yeah, obviously both him, and Evanstonjet do not belong here on this Jets Message board, or any jets message infact. It is obvious that the fools are not Jets fans, they only come here to bash the team, and the players on the team.
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Posted 03 June 2006 - 02:36 PM

Man you just succesfuly knocked Evanston Jet off the #1 spot of most hated posters lol

What you just did is the equivalent of going to Vatican City and clapping when the Pope died.

You can hate Wayne all you want man, but he is a modern day Jets icon!

The numbers dont mean shit, Keyshawn is a good reciever who made alot of catches, but Wayne made a CAREER of catching 3rd down passes, you know when everyone knows your throwing! Wayne is a legend man so stop the BS!
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Posted 03 June 2006 - 02:59 PM

Oh boy, you look smart, pull out 4 stats that a toddler can find and you call Chrebet a piece of shit. Well you pathetic toddler, where in those stats does it talk about how they played the game???
Listen, it's such an easy equation. Chrebet came into the NFL has an undrafted free agent. The very next year, with the #1 overall pick, we take Keyshawn. Who is your go to receiver, the undrafted free agent making minimum salary, or the multi million dollar #1 overall pick??? Even the toddler knows who, you go to Johnson. So they did. But I don't think you ever grasped the true concept of Wayne's value.
In Keyshawn's 4 years here: He had 305 catches for 4108 yards, a 13.4 YPR, and added 31 TDs as a #1. Started 59 games and played in 62.
In Chrebet's 4 years as his teammate: 266 catches for 3422 yards, a 12.9 YPR, and added 17 TDs as a #2/#3. Started 26 games and played in 64.
Stats show Keyshawn is by far and wide better. No he's not. In half the stats getting probably getting 2 thirds to 3 fourths of the balls Johnson is getting, while starting not even half of the games Johnson did, Chrebet fell 39 catches, 686 yards, half a yard per catch, and 14 TDs short. Now keep in mind, Johnson had 33 more starts, which is 2 seasons worth of starts, so subtract 4 from 33 since Chrebet played in 4 more games you get roughly 29 games. In more 29 games, basically 2 seasons, Chrebet would've definetly posted 30 catches and 686 yards.
Now as for the TDs, it's also easy. Who do ya thrw to in the end zone, a 5-10 guy or the 6-4 guy??? The extra half of a foot will speak for itself.
But now you must ask yourself, how many times was a Chrebet 3rd down catch keeping that drive alive that would later get Keyshawn the TD??? Probably more than once, and that's gotta be a fact, because Chrebet got 379 catches went for a first down, which is 65% of is career receptions total.
Also, how many times did you Chrebet blow his mouth off and insult his teammates??? How many times did he go for the ball even if he knew he wouldn't get it??? Probably 100% of the time. And that's a stat you want every player on your team to have.
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Posted 03 June 2006 - 03:08 PM

QUOTE (Chadforpresidentin08 @ Jun 3 2006, 09:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Oh boy, you look smart, pull out 4 stats that a toddler can find and you call Chrebet a piece of shit. Well you pathetic toddler, where in those stats does it talk about how they played the game???
Listen, it's such an easy equation. Chrebet came into the NFL has an undrafted free agent. The very next year, with the #1 overall pick, we take Keyshawn. Who is your go to receiver, the undrafted free agent making minimum salary, or the multi million dollar #1 overall pick??? Even the toddler knows who, you go to Johnson. So they did. But I don't think you ever grasped the true concept of Wayne's value.
In Keyshawn's 4 years here: He had 305 catches for 4108 yards, a 13.4 YPR, and added 31 TDs as a #1. Started 59 games and played in 62.
In Chrebet's 4 years as his teammate: 266 catches for 3422 yards, a 12.9 YPR, and added 17 TDs as a #2/#3. Started 26 games and played in 64.
Stats show Keyshawn is by far and wide better. No he's not. In half the stats getting probably getting 2 thirds to 3 fourths of the balls Johnson is getting, while starting not even half of the games Johnson did, Chrebet fell 39 catches, 686 yards, half a yard per catch, and 14 TDs short. Now keep in mind, Johnson had 33 more starts, which is 2 seasons worth of starts, so subtract 4 from 33 since Chrebet played in 4 more games you get roughly 29 games. In more 29 games, basically 2 seasons, Chrebet would've definetly posted 30 catches and 686 yards.
Now as for the TDs, it's also easy. Who do ya thrw to in the end zone, a 5-10 guy or the 6-4 guy??? The extra half of a foot will speak for itself.
But now you must ask yourself, how many times was a Chrebet 3rd down catch keeping that drive alive that would later get Keyshawn the TD??? Probably more than once, and that's gotta be a fact, because Chrebet got 379 catches went for a first down, which is 65% of is career receptions total.
Also, how many times did you Chrebet blow his mouth off and insult his teammates??? How many times did he go for the ball even if he knew he wouldn't get it??? Probably 100% of the time. And that's a stat you want every player on your team to have.


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Posted 03 June 2006 - 03:41 PM

I don't care how stupid a post is, or wrong in this case. beach.gif

If someone has another opinion, you argue it with fact and make them look stupid in that way. Please do not resort to childish name-calling.

And for future reference I would never ban another poster for his opinion, but I would for personal attacks.
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Posted 03 June 2006 - 03:47 PM

QUOTE (SignalZero @ Jun 3 2006, 09:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't care how stupid a post is, or wrong in this case. beach.gif

If someone has another opinion, you argue it with fact and make them look stupid in that way. Please do not resort to childish name-calling.

And for future reference I would never ban another poster for his opinion, but I would for personal attacks.


I don't appreciate the negativity that he is showing to Wayne Chrebet, one of the best Jets receivers in this teams franchise. No one bad mouths my favorite football player ever, especially a bum fat ass like this guy.
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Posted 03 June 2006 - 04:03 PM

QUOTE (JCBizkit87 @ Jun 3 2006, 12:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ok, let me just warn everyone that this post will be very nasty, because nobody talks shit about my favorite football player ever and gets away with it....
It is a matter of you shutting the f*** up. You are the most incompetant poster I have ever seen post here. I actually give more respect to evanston then I would for you, because he at least is right at times, you on the other hand are a complete moron.

Ronny, please just ban this guy from the message board, before I really get too abrasive with this fool. One thing before I end this post though. Go to hell you fat f***.


JCBizkit87, you have been and will always be a "jack off"! Your favorite football player was overpaid and did not contribute to the Jets the past 3 seasons other than occupy a locker. He was a brown nose little mama's boy who ran to the coach with every little problem. He and Vinny are probably doing all male porn. Maybe you can join them....fudge packer from way backer!
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Posted 03 June 2006 - 04:08 PM

QUOTE (The Fat Man @ Jun 3 2006, 04:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
JCBizkit87, you have been and will always be a "jack off"! Your favorite football player was overpaid and did not contribute to the Jets the past 3 seasons other than occupy a locker. He was a brown nose little mama's boy who ran to the coach with every little problem. He and Vinny are probably doing all male porn. Maybe you can join them....fudge packer from way backer!

I'm curious, who is your favorite Jet???
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QUOTE (The Fat Man @ Jun 3 2006, 09:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
JCBizkit87, you have been and will always be a "jack off"! Your favorite football player was overpaid and did not contribute to the Jets the past 3 seasons other than occupy a locker. He was a brown nose little mama's boy who ran to the coach with every little problem. He and Vinny are probably doing all male porn. Maybe you can join them....fudge packer from way backer!


Ronny, you seriously don't want me to knock this annoying maggot? I would seriously curse this tool the hell out. But, for once I am not going to resort to cursing in my posts.

Listen, dude, please do not call be a jack off, because you have no idea how much I want to kick you in the balls right now. I would hate to tell you, but Chrebet was never an overpaid player in the league. He did so many things for this team. Of his whole career in this league I have only seen this guy make one mistake, and one mistake only. That game in 2002 against the Bears. He was fighting for more yardage, and he fumbled the ball. You cannot name any other thing that he did to hurt our advantage in winning a game. He obviously is a far better man then you will ever be. He was everthing but what you said. He was never there to occupy a locker, as you say. He was there to help us win football games, as was every other single Jet player in that locker room. Please also, tell me when did Wayne ever run to the coach with every single problem. So, dude, why wont you get your negative little bitch attitude the hell out of here, and bother the people at jetsinsider, or ganggreen, I am sure those guys would appreicate you over there.

Get the hell of these forums you tool.
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Posted 03 June 2006 - 04:40 PM

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