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santana Icon : (16 August 2014 - 11:55 PM) http://gfycat.com/Mi...idHookersealion
santana Icon : (16 August 2014 - 11:55 PM) Gotta fix that
azjetfan Icon : (17 August 2014 - 01:35 PM) Is anyone else as concerned as I am about the secondary?
azjetfan Icon : (17 August 2014 - 01:36 PM) I know it's preseason and all but even with Milliner in on the first game we gave up a TD on the first drive to the Colts
azjetfan Icon : (17 August 2014 - 01:37 PM) Patterson looked like me out there and Wilson got torched last night
Smedsthejet Icon : (17 August 2014 - 02:26 PM) Concerned about the right side of the OLine too - too many penalties and Giacomini wasn't that much better than against the Colts when he was poor
SackExchange71 Icon : (17 August 2014 - 02:31 PM) Imo i still think howard is better then giacomini..Wish they never let him walk.Giacomini had alot of flags in seattle also
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 09:33 AM) Howard recieved a huge contract in Oakland. Way over his actual value.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 10:08 AM) So did we make a trade for a CB yet?
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (18 August 2014 - 03:51 PM) Milliner did suffer a high ankle sprain, that sucks. could linger all year
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (18 August 2014 - 03:52 PM) I think Patterson sucked vs the Colts because he was injured, which he always is.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 06:49 PM) As much as people criticized Tannanbaum for spending too much. It's starting to look like Idzik is going to be too cheap.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 06:52 PM) You get what you pay for and when you let quality players go because you don't want to pay them, this is what happens. You're left with scrub players.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 07:55 PM) I'm still on board with the Idzik plan. Even with Revis and Revis we still are not going to the SB this year. But the down time sucks. If Milliner comes back healthy by week 3 or so we should be fine.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 08:18 PM) Regardless of our SB chances this year or next year. If Idzik keeps acting like a cheapskate and continues to let quality players go, we won't have to worry about winning much of anything this decade.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 09:36 PM) He wants to build through the draft. Not blow the bank on FA. I get what your saying but there is a balance and right now we are not one or two pieces away.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 11:00 PM) It's not about being one or two pieces away. It's about keeping the good pieces you have and building upon that.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 11:04 PM) But there is no sense in trying to build through the draft if he's only going to end up letting the good players he picks up go in FA after a few years. All because he wants to do things on the cheap.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:02 AM) FIRE IDZIK
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:33 AM) out side of Revis who left we should have kept?
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:34 AM) The Revis deal sucks but $16 million was too much for a CB and once he was gone he was not coming back.
Mr_Jet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 11:00 AM) Matt Slauson
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 01:00 PM) Eh. I think with our current cap situation we will be able to retain guys like Wilkerson and whomever we want to keep. We are in a good position right now.
Mr_Jet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 01:49 PM) Time will tell.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 02:00 PM) landed revis abck. got DRC, nope we take patterson who got owned and always hurt. milner always hurt. 3rd round CB done for season. were gonna get passed on all day
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 02:44 PM) Yea the DRC bit makes me iffy
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 03:35 PM) better then patterson
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 05:45 PM) No I mean the fact that he whiffed on him.
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 05:46 PM) I'm not saying Idzik is perfect. I just like the direction we are heading. It's going to take some patience.
RetireChrebet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:27 PM) I like how our lack of secondary is the hot topic right now. The bigger issue is we still will not be able to throw the ball. We are not going to do much of anything regardless until we get a QB. Sorry for being so negative just my honest opinion.
RetireChrebet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:29 PM) With that said I think our running game with CJ and Powell will be top 10 or somewhere around there
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:35 PM) i have faith that if geno messes up that vick can come in and do well. but i have 0 faith in our secondary right now which has been our strong point for the past 4 years or so
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:35 PM) I agree 115. but the one thing is Rex has done some good things in the past with shitty DBs and still had a solid D going back to his years in BAL
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:37 PM) Corey Ivy CB
36 Jim Leonhard SS/PR
43 Haruki Nakamura FS
25 Evan Oglesby CB
20 Ed Reed FS
22 Samari Rolle CB
39 Daren Stone FS
41 Frank Walker CB
31 Fabian Washington in 2008
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:39 PM) Reed is a HOF but Rolle was way past his prime
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:41 PM) SNOOPY BOWL FRIDAY!!!
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:41 PM) WOOOOOOOOOOOOO
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:26 PM) I assume we will pick up a guy after the cuts happen.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 10:14 PM) we'll see but I think we see better QB play than we have in a while.
518-JeTS-FaN Icon : (Yesterday, 08:54 AM) disgusted with my local programming, instead of jets and giants they are airing the raiders vs packers..wtf
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Yesterday, 09:23 AM) Glad I don't live up there anymore haha
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:59 PM) The JETS are #6 in the Forbes List for most franchise value
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:59 PM) The Buffalo Jills are #31 and the Miami Dolphags are #16 respectively
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 07:00 PM) The JETS are worth $1.8 billion
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Posted 03 September 2005 - 01:45 AM

QUOTE (Jetsfan115 @ Sep 3 2005, 02:18 AM)
not really. the assignmenst of an ILB 3-4 is very similar to that of a MLB. only differnce is he will be counted on to be a QB of the defense when in pitt it was farrior anyway good chating but i'm out for tonight. i got a new game i'm dying to try out. its called still life for the xbox



the difference is about as substantial as ILB to ROLB
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Posted 03 September 2005 - 03:41 AM

im lookin forward to this game. Abe and Shaun making Trent Greens life hell, and Curtis Martin rippin that so called 'defense' of Kansas City to shreds.
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Posted 03 September 2005 - 04:19 AM

Yeah, Martin is going to rip our run defense to shreds. You obviously haven't watched the teams that tried to run on our first team defense this season. Shaun Alexander is a pretty good runningback, I hear... too bad he only got 7 yards after playing an entire half.
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Posted 03 September 2005 - 02:24 PM

QUOTE (Silock @ Sep 3 2005, 04:54 AM)
Yeah, Martin is going to rip our run defense to shreds.  You obviously haven't watched the teams that tried to run on our first team defense this season.  Shaun Alexander is a pretty good runningback, I hear... too bad he only got 7 yards after playing an entire half.



This season ? WTF.gif . Did the season start yet. Wait when did this happen a whole season has gone by without me even knowing.

If you were refering to the preseason like I said it's PRESEASON.

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Posted 03 September 2005 - 03:50 PM

Semantics.
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Posted 03 September 2005 - 03:56 PM

Like I was saying in the other thread. What happened to Jerome Woods at FS I know about Sammy. Excellent pick up. But who is at FS.?
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Posted 03 September 2005 - 04:10 PM

Sammy I don't like. I don't think he is that good, just a product of an excellent defense in Miami for so many years. How fast that changed!
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Posted 03 September 2005 - 04:11 PM

QUOTE (sdubb6 @ Sep 3 2005, 05:31 PM)
Like I was saying in the other thread. What happened to Jerome Woods at FS I know about Sammy. Excellent pick up. But who is at FS.?

Jerome Played very poorly last season after signing a fat contract
He was always out of position and lost his hard-hitting ability

He shouldn't have even been elected to the Pro-Bowl in 2003

Wesley also played poorly but was still better than Woods - At least he made some plays (4 INTs, 4 Forced Fumbles - most among all Safeties in the league)

After Knight was signed, Vermeil said there would be an open competition for the starting FS spot. Obviously everybody knew Wesley would win and he did

Many of us (Fans) were surprised when we cut Wilie Pile, who is a solid safety with some potential, instead of Woods

Woods potential cap hit is why he is still on the team

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Posted 03 September 2005 - 04:15 PM

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Sammy I don't like. I don't think he is that good, just a product of an excellent defense in Miami for so many years. How fast that changed!

Knight only played in Miami for 2 years
He was with the Saints for the majority of his career

Knight has had 93+ Tackles in 7 of his 8 Seasons
His low was 75 in '98 when he missed 2 games with injury I assume

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Posted 03 September 2005 - 04:16 PM

GregWesley, I hope you are enjoying the atmosphere here. We talk football, plain and simple. Most of us are just fans of the sport and of course we love our Jets, but hey we call them out when it calls for it as well.

I hope you are finding your time here logical and pleasant. Sorry that I wont be in your atmosphere having conversation. Seems like all I got was rudeness except from about 2 posters.
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Posted 03 September 2005 - 04:19 PM

QUOTE (GregWesley @ Sep 3 2005, 05:50 PM)
Knight only played in Miami for 2 years
He was with the Saints for the majority of his career

Knight has had 93+ Tackles in 7 of his 8 Seasons
His low was 75 in '98 when he missed 2 games with injury I assume

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Damn you're right. I think I was thinking of the other safety, neither of their safeties are on the team anymore so maybe I was thinking of him. I can't remember the other guys name though.
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Posted 03 September 2005 - 04:49 PM

I'm enjoying my time here

I'll be here all week and the beginning of next week to discuss the game

I apologize on behalf of the Coalition for the rudeness of some of our fans - I really didn't expect all that crap
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QUOTE (GregWesley @ Sep 3 2005, 10:24 PM)
I'm enjoying my time here

I'll be here all week and the beginning of next week to discuss the game

I apologize on behalf of the Coalition for the rudeness of some of our fans - I really didn't expect all that crap


I like these kinds of fans ^

These are the kind of fans that every team should have, instead of the biased fans, who think their the patriots of the last 3 out of 4 years.

Have fun during your stay here.
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Posted 03 September 2005 - 06:24 PM

I've always kinda liked the Cheifs. No reason at all but I just have. I thyinik the JEts will win because of the Cheifs new defense. No team can expect to play well with so many new starters right away. If you don't believe me you'll learn fast. I also do believe the Jets have a better team, but that doesn't always mean victory. So I will stick to my theory of a high scorer with the Jets out on top.
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Posted 03 September 2005 - 06:58 PM

if jets don't get pressure on green we lose, i believe its that simple
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Posted 03 September 2005 - 07:17 PM

QUOTE (jets0n @ Sep 3 2005, 04:45 PM)
Sammy I don't like. I don't think he is that good, just a product of an excellent defense in Miami for so many years. How fast that changed!


Yeah yeah priest sucks hes a product of a Pro Bowl line, Surtain was a product of the Miami scheme etc etc . Guys we know better than anyone that our defense sucks the big one. But this year we have added Surtain, the defensive ROY DJ (look at my sig for an example of what to espect), Knight, and Bell who is going to be healthy against you and you don't have a pushover defense anymore. And if you do still believe that see the signature bet post of mine and put your sig where your mouth is.
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Posted 03 September 2005 - 07:19 PM

QUOTE (BigRedChief @ Sep 3 2005, 07:52 PM)
Yeah yeah priest sucks hes a product of a Pro Bowl line, Surtain was a product of the Miami scheme  etc etc .  Guys we know better than anyone that our defense sucks the big one. But this year we have added Surtain, the defensive ROY DJ (look at my sig for an example of what to espect), Knight, and Bell who is going to be healthy against you and you don't have a pushover defense anymore. And if you do still believe that see the signature bet post of mine and put your sig where your mouth is.
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I like DJ and think hes going to be a very good player, but i dont think he will be DROY, Its going to either Demarcus Ware or Antrel Rolle
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Posted 03 September 2005 - 08:23 PM

Demarcus Ware hands down
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Posted 03 September 2005 - 08:33 PM

Eh, it doesn't look like we started off too good, I mean, we kinda started off as a bunch of assholes, over here, they;ve been respectful. Sorry Chief fans for any idotism my fellow Jets fans cost, they're a lot better than that.
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Posted 03 September 2005 - 08:53 PM

QUOTE (Chadforpresidentin08 @ Sep 3 2005, 09:08 PM)
Eh, it doesn't look like we started off too good, I mean, we kinda started off as a bunch of assholes, over here, they;ve been respectful. Sorry Chief fans for any idotism my fellow Jets fans cost, they're a lot better than that.


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