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Cut Nugget! he cant kick FG's or Kickoff deep..y is he here?

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Posted 19 November 2006 - 08:29 PM

kickers don't fall off trees. there is nobody better out there
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Posted 19 November 2006 - 08:32 PM

QUOTE (Jetsfan115 @ Nov 20 2006, 12:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
kickers don't fall off trees. there is nobody better out there

iagree.gif and why does Nugent suck if Mangini didn`t call out the feild goal unit????
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Posted 19 November 2006 - 08:40 PM

This Nugent talk is really getting ridiculous. How was it his fault that Mangini wouldn't let him try the FG? If he comes in and misses, let him have it. To blame him for Mangini's decision is stupid.
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Posted 19 November 2006 - 08:44 PM

QUOTE (VaNDelaYInDusTrIEs @ Nov 19 2006, 09:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This Nugent talk is really getting ridiculous. How was it his fault that Mangini wouldn't let him try the FG? If he comes in and misses, let him have it. To blame him for Mangini's decision is stupid.

maybe because he doesnt make them in practice (never made them in TC when i was there) and Mangini doesnt trust him because of what he sees out of him every day (remember the coaches know more about the players than us fans, they watch them in practice everyday)..if he was a good-consistent kicker and proved it to Mangini over and over again i'm sure Mangini would trust him and he would have been in the game to kick in that situation..
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Posted 19 November 2006 - 11:46 PM

QUOTE (Jetsfan115 @ Nov 19 2006, 09:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
kickers don't fall off trees. there is nobody better out there

So I guess you went around and scouted every single division 1 kicker that graduated last year and didnt go in the draft or got picked up by a team in free agency. How do you know that if we brought in some kid from Whosafuckin State University, that he wouldn't be any good. I mean, who was Vinatieri?...he sure as hell wasn't a 2nd round pick.

QUOTE (Jetman28 @ Nov 19 2006, 09:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
iagree.gif and why does Nugent suck if Mangini didn`t call out the feild goal unit????

Mangini clearly seems like the coach who isnt afraid of taking a chance. Don't you think theres a good reason why Mangini is worried about kicking a 50 yarder. He's fine with kicking an onside to start the 2nd half in a 0-0 game, but the idea of Nugget kicking a 50 yarder scares him. You don't think there's a reason for that?
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Posted 20 November 2006 - 12:03 AM

QUOTE (JetsOhFive @ Nov 19 2006, 09:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So I guess you went around and scouted every single division 1 kicker that graduated last year and didnt go in the draft or got picked up by a team in free agency. How do you know that if we brought in some kid from Whosafuckin State University, that he wouldn't be any good. I mean, who was Vinatieri?...he sure as hell wasn't a 2nd round pick.
Mangini clearly seems like the coach who isnt afraid of taking a chance. Don't you think theres a good reason why Mangini is worried about kicking a 50 yarder. He's fine with kicking an onside to start the 2nd half in a 0-0 game, but the idea of Nugget kicking a 50 yarder scares him. You don't think there's a reason for that?


1)according to reports he has been hitting them from 50+ in practice
2) i don't have to scout them. we brought in someone in camp who didn't beat him out.
3) kickers are so scare that gramtica and braynat are still employed but brien isn't
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Posted 20 November 2006 - 12:09 AM

QUOTE (Jetsfan115 @ Nov 20 2006, 12:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
1)according to reports he has been hitting them from 50+ in practice
2) i don't have to scout them. we brought in someone in camp who didn't beat him out.
3) kickers are so scare that gramtica and braynat are still employed but brien isn't

Not according to VilmaTime...oh and another thing...ITS PRACTICE. He was also amazing in college like I've heard so many times. And yeah ofcourse he didn't beat him out, because the coaches and the FO are still trying to convince themselves that Nugget isnt a suckjob. And I don't care if he's unemployed I'll still take him over a 2nd round flop. Was he not the most accurate kicker in Jets history. Yes he missed the 2 field goals in the playoffs. In the same situation I think Nugget would probably miss them too.
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Posted 20 November 2006 - 12:10 AM

Yes...while there is probably not an option out there (but you never know...kickers come off the street all the time...but usually before the season).....the bottom line is that Nugent just doesn't have it from over 47+ and the coaches know he doesn't have it.

You think if Mangnini had Vinitieri on his team he wouldn't kick that ball? Your damn right he would

When you don't have the leg strength to get a touchback....you probably don't have the leg for 47+ at a decent percentage
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Posted 20 November 2006 - 12:28 AM

QUOTE (JetsOhFive @ Nov 19 2006, 09:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Not according to VilmaTime...oh and another thing...ITS PRACTICE. He was also amazing in college like I've heard so many times. And yeah ofcourse he didn't beat him out, because the coaches and the FO are still trying to convince themselves that Nugget isnt a suckjob. And I don't care if he's unemployed I'll still take him over a 2nd round flop. Was he not the most accurate kicker in Jets history. Yes he missed the 2 field goals in the playoffs. In the same situation I think Nugget would probably miss them too.


vilma time is wrong. i read alot of articles sayin he drilled them from 50+. the only reason u give him shit was where he was drafted. also brien was the most accurate only cause he never attempeted 50+ yarders. nugent is more accurate form less them 50 then brien was
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Posted 20 November 2006 - 12:35 AM

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vilma time is wrong. i read alot of articles sayin he drilled them from 50+. the only reason u give him shit was where he was drafted. also brien was the most accurate only cause he never attempeted 50+ yarders. nugent is more accurate form less them 50 then brien was


Yes..i believe I read as well that he was hitting 50+ in practice. But something isn't right. In a 0-0 or 3-0 game...how you pass up on it twice. The trust in Nugent's leg in game time (not practice) isn't there by Mangini. There is no other reason why we are passing up these attempts
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Posted 20 November 2006 - 01:12 AM

QUOTE (Jetsfan115 @ Nov 20 2006, 01:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
vilma time is wrong. i read alot of articles sayin he drilled them from 50+. the only reason u give him shit was where he was drafted. also brien was the most accurate only cause he never attempeted 50+ yarders. nugent is more accurate form less them 50 then brien was


That was in the summer. Nice weather and a soft football. This is November swirling winds, dry cold air the kid just doesn't have it.

I don't think anyone is saying he's good or worth it. I mean O.K you can't kick long thats fine but what the missed P.A.T's? the 20 and 30 yarders?

C'mon... this guy is crap. I would EXPECT him gone as early as our offseason begins

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Posted 20 November 2006 - 09:22 AM

Nugent is gone by the offseason, he was good in college, but they use a different ball in college which has more bounce than the K-Ball they use in the NFL. I doubt they'll change the ball for him, so we need someone who can kick a K-Ball without a problem. Mangini needs to find a kick boxer or something like that to be the kicker.
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Posted 20 November 2006 - 02:54 PM

QUOTE (theanalogkid @ Nov 20 2006, 09:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Nugent is gone by the offseason, he was good in college, but they use a different ball in college which has more bounce than the K-Ball they use in the NFL. I doubt they'll change the ball for him, so we need someone who can kick a K-Ball without a problem. Mangini needs to find a kick boxer or something like that to be the kicker.

How bout Mia Hamm..she kicked a 50 yard field goal with the K-Ball. Get any European soccer striker. Wayne Rooney, Thierry Henry, Miroslav Klose, Luca Toni, Raul, Jan Koller...I'm sure they can kick. Last time I checked they could.
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Posted 20 November 2006 - 02:58 PM

dude.. they should sign me up, i could kicked a 53 yard easily and in the wind, i could hit about 40-45 easily
damn should've played college football man!...does anyone knows of any possible tryouts for the nfl or the jets??
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Posted 20 November 2006 - 05:42 PM

first off, good soccer players dont always translate into good kickers. i know a kid in my school from jordan who can kill the ball in soccer yet hes r kicker and we dont even trust him any more on extra points. second off kenxnice, if ur serious and ur that old(i didnt know u were), u can do what antonio gates did(or i think thats what he did, either way u can do it) u can like send a tape to the NFL and file for Free agency some how. then ur an NFL free agent, i think thats how that one bartender became the packers punter a couple years ago, he was a free agent.
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Posted 20 November 2006 - 05:43 PM

There is no doubt in my mind Mangini has zero trust in nugent, I am starting to get sick of him as well. As a kicker who went in the 2nd he should be able to make 50 yard field goals. He also has bad kick offs that hardly ever get into the endzone. I think there will be a new kicker brought in next year.
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Posted 18 January 2007 - 04:26 PM

just goes to show how odd this season is.. nugget? lolz nugget kicked 18 goal in a row including some clutch kicks and a bunch of 50 + yarders lolz.. wow this nugget really show'em to 'em eh?
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Posted 18 January 2007 - 06:02 PM

Don't every one of you feel like assholes?

I know I don't...looks like jetsfan115 and I are the only ones...



































PS - I know a ton of guys are going to make posts about how they were Nugent supporters this...and don't forget about me...I was always on Nugent's side....blah blah blah....can't wait to see those...
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