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MikeGangGree... Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:09 AM) good
MikeGangGree... Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:09 AM) Best day of the week is the day after a Jets Win!
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:12 AM) Rob you think the offense started off ugly? we scored on our first 4 drives, and controlled the ball 80% of the time the first half. We didn't even punt until the 2nd half
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:21 AM) I meant the hits on Fitz at on the first Drive or two with the fumbles and almost fumbles....The Tom Brady rule where balls that used to be fumbles are incomplete. We recovered the ball on all but one but it was ruled incomplete
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:26 AM) The offensive line stepped off after Hughes got hurt for however long he was out. I don't blame J. Marsh for that fumble because that was just a hell of a play. Imo Fitz had a career best game even with only 1 td passing. Never seen him so accurate. So yeah when I meant ugly I meant dline penetration and the 1st two drives ending up in fieldgoals
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:30 AM) But 31 points given up passing by the defense passing was bad. It wasn't just 2 long bombs and that defensive touchdown leading to 21 points. 3q1 against a bad team was terrible for the defense. Without the offense putting up 37 the Jets,would have lost so yeah I consider it an ugly start on both ends
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:32 AM) I'm glad like everyone else that the Jets won. Especially with getting with by the Bills multiple times it was nice revenge.
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:34 AM) Just saying that the Bills look like a bad team this year and the Jets have to face a lot of teams that are probably playoff bound again so yes there is a lot of concern
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 11:39 AM) fitz look good and lets not forget the 50+ yarder to decker that was called back on a BS holding penalty. plus if you rewatch it, the jets d-line was getting held like crazy and never got calls. I seen McLendon, williams, and wilk all complaining about it
azjetfan Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:32 PM) I think the game plan for the D was to keep Taylor in the pocker
azjetfan Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:33 PM) They didn't want him running around when they only rushed 3-4 guts
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:37 PM) bills fired their OC today after the loss yesterday lol
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:38 PM) yeah we didn't really rush, we just tried to keep contain on the outside and collapse the middle
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:38 PM) on the salas TD, one of our LBers went for the sack and broke contain and pryor got away and made the play
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:39 PM) when we did rush which was rare, we had a spy
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 11:11 PM) As far as the Bills firing the oc I'm not sure I agree with it with Watkins having major foot problem with a steel rod in his surgically repaired foot but I dont follow the Bills so cant really say. I do think they need to get rid of Rob Ryan though. He had a decent year with the Browns then was terrible with the Cowboys and Saints. He isn't half the DC that Rex is. I still think Rex can be a good head coach withe the right coaches and roster but Rob Ryan isn't the answer. But if Rex wants to ruin his chance of staying a head coach by keeping his brother on the coaching staff like he ruined his head coaching job keeping Sanchez as a starter then that's his stupidity
ganggreen2003 Icon : (17 September 2016 - 12:20 AM) The A Football Life of Curtis Martin is a MUST WATCH!!!!
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (17 September 2016 - 02:03 PM) They got rid of their OC after their defense was ripped apart
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:03 PM) Well hell that makes even less sense. The defense gets ripped apart so let's get rid of the oc instead of the dc.they didn't have much of a run game but a lot of passes yards. If they wanted to blame anyone for nearly 40 points against them it was their defense. But guess Rex used the ocean as the scale goat instead of his brother
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:04 PM) Oc not ocean. Damn Auto correct on phone
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:04 PM) And scape goatee
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:05 PM) Lol still can't get it right
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:13 PM) Not sure about anyone else but I'm extremely interested in the 49r/ Panther game at 1pm. Just want to see if the 49rs are actually good this year or if the Rams have become one of the worst teams in the league this year
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:16 PM) If the Rams have regressed that much then all the Todd Gurley owners in fantasy will likely have low points from him all year. Might even be worth trying to trade him early if they look just as bad this week before his stock drops
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:26 PM) I drafted him last year and also had David Johnson, Chris Johnson, Roetlesburger, Romo, Palmer, Barnage,, .....my whole team was stacked with starters. Entire team wasc stacked with starters. Even bench. Made tge Superbowl but did have a rough start at behinning of season when Romo and Roethlisberger wentvdown at the start of season also lost amazing starting rb and wr all within the 1st 4 games but worked the waivers really well..shut out until garbage time by a team that was terrible last year
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:28 PM) Last part meant Rams were shut out entire game even in garbage time against 49r backups
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:29 PM) Sorry about typos. Hard to type on small phone screen
MikeGangGree... Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:00 PM) This is why I'm glad Rex is gone. Fire the OC after the D gives up 500 yards??
MikeGangGree... Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:01 PM) UPDATE THE UPDATE!!!!
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:25 PM) Yep Rex isn't a bad coach but he needs to have all player and coach decisions as far as firing and hiring taken out of his hands. His problem is he doesn't know to separate the job from loyalty to players and is unable to let underperforming players go
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:27 PM) He was great as a DC because he wasn't in charge of roster and firing decisions. He will never make it as a good head coach until he can get rid of loyalty and run a team like any boss runs a business.
azjetfan Icon : (17 September 2016 - 07:16 PM) I loved Rex as a person. But he is severely handicapped in his skill set as a HC. He has not adapted and will not adapt. That's why he isn't here and will be fired from Buffalo.
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:05 AM) It's all guessing and I will like likely stick with my two starters that are injured and playing but D.Thomas looks like he is still in a lot of pain and Stewart is still in the locker room getting ankle treatment so both could be on a snap count
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:06 AM) I have good wr's on bench and good rb's on bench but they have bad matchups. Do t trust Diggs against Greenbay or Doug Martin against Arizona both on bench
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:08 AM) If I made changes I have Crabtree for Oakland Aagainst Atlanta and Abdullah for Detroit against 49rs as my two options I would choose if I made any changes
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:10 AM) Actually have it backwards with my running back teams
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:12 AM) Detroit vs Titans who I believe has a legit defense. Panthers have a better team but the ankle for Stewart and both the Titans and 49rs are ranked #1 against the run. Not a believer in the 49rs defensesthough
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:13 AM) Believe the Rams oline just sucks
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:15 AM) Abdullah splits carries but he did get 17 last week and also catches a lot of passes and has a better qb so could exploit the Titans still
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:16 AM) Will most likely do my own thing anyway just looking for input from those that actually study in fantasy if anyone feels like offering their opinions. If not it's cool too. Thanks
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:18 AM) If not for the injuries to the two players I'd keep them in for sure but all it takes for Thomas is a hit to the hip and a tackle by the ankle for Stewart if they aren't on a snap count already or if pain doesn't get to them.
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 12:45 PM) Well looks like leaving in Stewart was,a,bad move in locker room
MikeGangGree... Icon : (18 September 2016 - 04:54 PM) Good news! Dolphins suck
santana Icon : (19 September 2016 - 08:08 AM) Thanks professor
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Is It Just Me? Or Is This A Weak Draft Class?

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Posted 27 January 2007 - 04:00 PM

look at the past few years

2002
1 david carr
2 julius peppers
3 joey harrington
4 mike williams
5 quentin jammer

3 busts, 1 por bolwer, 1 solid

2003
1 carson palmer
2 charles rogers
3 andre johnson
4 dewayne robertson
5 terrance newman

1 bust, 1 solid, 3 pro bolwers.

2004
1 eli manning
2 robert gallery
3 larry fitzgerald
4 phillip rivers
5 sean taylor

1 bust, 1 borderline bust, 3 pro bolwers

2005
1 alex smith
2 ronnie brown
3 braylon edwards
4 cedric benson
5 cadillac williams

2006
1 mario williams
2 reggie bush
3 vince young
4 d'brickashaw furgeson
5 AJ Hawk

most of those players had huge hype and were the nexy somebody. now look at the top 5 prospects this year

1 calvin johnson
2 joe thomas
3 brady quinn
4 JaMarcus russell
5 Adrian peterson

other then calvin johnson there sint' much hype about any of the other guys. thoughts?
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Posted 27 January 2007 - 04:27 PM

i think it is very strong
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Posted 27 January 2007 - 04:28 PM

no wayyyyy is this class weak.........it has one of the best wr classes in the last decade an incredibly deep pool of rb and is full of potential studs on Defense........other than CB this draft is very strong
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Posted 27 January 2007 - 04:33 PM

i think the draft is week in star power there isnt a lot of big time stars like young, bush and leinart
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Posted 27 January 2007 - 04:46 PM

its not as hyped because when you hype a guy and it doesnt turn out
then you look like an idiot

russell and quinn are both hyped and peterson is a monster





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Posted 27 January 2007 - 05:14 PM

QUOTE (tipceey @ Jan 27 2007, 05:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
no wayyyyy is this class weak.........it has one of the best wr classes in the last decade an incredibly deep pool of rb and is full of potential studs on Defense........other than CB this draft is very strong


I agree this is a very strong class. Almost every category has star potential. RB,LB,DE,DB there are lots of potential early and late rounds in all these categorys.
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Posted 27 January 2007 - 05:54 PM

Yeah I can't help ya here jetsfan115...this draft is solid. It may not have the top 10 of last year with guy's like Vince Young, Reggie Bush, Matt Leinart, D'Brickashaw, AJ Hawk, etc. But who cares about top 10...we ain't picking there. It is much deeper...much...much...MUCH deeper than last year! As someone else pointed out this is one of the best WR's classes...possibly ever. You can easily get a great, instant starter at WR in the 3rd round...it is honestly that deep!!!

The QB class is pretty deep...it doesn't have the frontliner's like Young, Leinart, and Cutler...but not many drafts do.

RB is really the only weakness in this class that I see...other than that we can walk away with some good talent this year.
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Posted 27 January 2007 - 05:57 PM

Yeah a top 5 doesnt show the strength of a draft class. Its how good the players are in later rounds and the depth

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Posted 27 January 2007 - 06:12 PM

QUOTE (HurricaneJet32 @ Jan 27 2007, 03:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah I can't help ya here jetsfan115...this draft is solid. It may not have the top 10 of last year with guy's like Vince Young, Reggie Bush, Matt Leinart, D'Brickashaw, AJ Hawk, etc. But who cares about top 10...we ain't picking there. It is much deeper...much...much...MUCH deeper than last year! As someone else pointed out this is one of the best WR's classes...possibly ever. You can easily get a great, instant starter at WR in the 3rd round...it is honestly that deep!!!

The QB class is pretty deep...it doesn't have the frontliner's like Young, Leinart, and Cutler...but not many drafts do.

RB is really the only weakness in this class that I see...other than that we can walk away with some good talent this year.


thats kinda what i'm saying. there ins't teh star power of recent classes with reggie bush, lienart, young, cutler, rivers, hawk, brick, super mario, palmer, etc. this year has calvin johnson and thats it.
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Posted 27 January 2007 - 06:18 PM

QUOTE (Jetsfan115 @ Jan 27 2007, 06:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
thats kinda what i'm saying. there ins't teh star power of recent classes with reggie bush, lienart, young, cutler, rivers, hawk, brick, super mario, palmer, etc. this year has calvin johnson and thats it.


Well I'll agree with that...it isn't as strong at the top...but it has much more depth. And when we're picking at 25 or 25 ??? we're going to want the depth.

However, there still is star talent...

Calvin Johnson - One of the best WR prospect's ever.

Joe Thomas - Many think he's a better prospect than D'Brick was.

Adrian Peterson - The best pure running back to come out of the draft in years...Eric Dickerson clone.

Alan Branch - Amazing combo of huge size and athleticism.

Amobi Okoye
- We all know the story of the 19 year old senior.

JaMarcus Russell - Probably has the strongest arm of anyone in any level of football...I can't think of a pro with a better arm...now combine that with his 6'6" 260 pound body that runs a 4.7...and you've got one hell of a QB!

So no...not the same star talent as last year...but it is a hell of a lot better than most years in my opinion!
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Posted 27 January 2007 - 06:36 PM

this class has star potential......if i had to take a choice between bush and peterson i would take peterson in heart beat.........joe thomas is said to be even better than D-Brick.........Quinn and Leinart have the same pro potential coming out of college......theres about 3 guys who could be better prospect than mario williams....williams was top 10 before the combine but shot up after because of his measurables.....there are DE's with that potential in this draft........wr isnt even close.......their isnt any vince young or jay cutler in this draft.........but you could get guys in the 2nd or 3rd round who might be just as good.......troy smith, drew stanton
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Posted 27 January 2007 - 07:12 PM

The QB I like who I think will be a 1st rounder now, is Drew Stanton. I think that he earned the #3 QB taken in this draft. If we needed a QB of the future, I would defintely want to draft him at #25. The guy has a big arm, acurate, and is very mobile. He did really good at the Senior Bowl today. In my opinion, hes the 3rd best QB in the draft. Behind, Russell and Quinn.
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Posted 28 January 2007 - 09:00 AM

Ask me again in five years, homie.
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Posted 28 January 2007 - 09:22 AM

QUOTE (Jetsfan115 @ Jan 27 2007, 06:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
thats kinda what i'm saying. there ins't teh star power of recent classes with reggie bush, lienart, young, cutler, rivers, hawk, brick, super mario, palmer, etc. this year has calvin johnson and thats it.


I cant see how u say calvin johnson and thats it...keep in mind if AP didnt go down last year and half of this year he would have bigger hype than reggie bush comeing out and would be the only other player besides archie to win two hiesmans...i think he wouldve been more dominant than bush last year..bottem line is whoever gets AP whether its #1 or #31 is getting a steal because he once in a generation type back
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Posted 28 January 2007 - 12:51 PM

QUOTE (RetireChrebet @ Jan 28 2007, 09:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I cant see how u say calvin johnson and thats it...keep in mind if AP didnt go down last year and half of this year he would have bigger hype than reggie bush comeing out and would be the only other player besides archie to win two hiesmans...i think he wouldve been more dominant than bush last year..bottem line is whoever gets AP whether its #1 or #31 is getting a steal because he once in a generation type back


AP won a Heisman? When did that happen?
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Posted 28 January 2007 - 12:59 PM

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AP won a Heisman? When did that happen?


He was second to Leinart in 2004. He's never won it.
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Posted 28 January 2007 - 01:04 PM

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He was second to Leinart in 2004. He's never won it.


I'm aware, that's why I'm wondering if I misunderstood the comment. Either way, AP is gonna be a bad ass. I'm not sure how much I really like the rest of this years RB class. The only RB I really like is Michael Bush. He's huge, he's fast enough to break away, he's powerful, he's got a really good nose for the endzone. Those are good qualities to have in a RB.
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Posted 28 January 2007 - 01:20 PM

QUOTE (jets0n @ Jan 28 2007, 06:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm aware, that's why I'm wondering if I misunderstood the comment. Either way, AP is gonna be a bad ass. I'm not sure how much I really like the rest of this years RB class. The only RB I really like is Michael Bush. He's huge, he's fast enough to break away, he's powerful, he's got a really good nose for the endzone. Those are good qualities to have in a RB.


I think a Bush-Washington backfield would be super as you have two home run threats as both have breakaway speed whilst Bush can use his size and power to really wear down the defense and then Washington can come in and take it to the house around the outside. Washington isn't a back who excels running between the tackles constantly but he can turn the corner with his speed. It can work vice versa too as Washington can do like Tiki Barber did and get the ball inside the five for Bush to punch it in down near the goalline. It would give us a more multi-dimensional backfield.
With a guy like Cedric Houston, he is a powerful back but we have to rely on Washington to break a big gain which tires Washington out as he already takes the bulk of the carries. With Bush and Washington though you would have a good backfield where a 50-50 share of the carries could work wonders.
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Posted 28 January 2007 - 01:45 PM

QUOTE (jets0n @ Jan 28 2007, 01:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
AP won a Heisman? When did that happen?


i said if he didnt get hurt in 05' and 06' then i believe he wouldve won both
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Posted 29 January 2007 - 10:25 AM

If this draft is so deep then we need to start shipping some of these pricks out and getting picks.

pricks for picks...I like that, mcareins and all the rest of em..
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